metanium 2020 Shimano Metanium 2020 Spec(size)

[CFDoc]

10 hours ago, SunnyAllDay said:

Hey @CFDoc, I just bought a JDM 20 met too. While I haven't received it yet I'm already concerned abought the handle knob size. Did you just replace the knobs or the whole handle assembly? Also, with such a small spool should I be concerned with bomb casting 3/8 - 1/2oz chatter baits with so little line on the smaller spool?

 

Thx.

 

I got extremely lucky in finding some USDM-sized knobs on another site's swap & sell forum. However, one of my JDM met's still has the smaller knobs on it. I will probably replace them one day though.

 

As far as spool size and running out of line, my experience has been that with 10, 12, & 15 pound diameter line this has not been a problem. Even with 1/2 oz aerodynamic baits.

 

With 20lb line and aerodynamic baits, I can absolutely cast down to the last few loops of the spool. This would be with something like 1/2oz tungsten on a speed craw and things like that. Chatter baits I haven't had an issue with it because I find the big blade on chatter baits to flap around on most casts and cause a good bit of aerodynamic drag. I also haven't had the issue with any crank baits I've tried thus far. But I don't do much deep cranking.

[SunnyAllDay]

Thanks JB, you've been a big help with the handle issue! Just one more question since you brought up the bearings. Can't I simply use the bearings that are coming with the new JDM 20 metanium? Seems like they would be the right size but maybe not.

[jbsoonerfan]

Sure, they are the same size.  I just can't remember if there are 2 bearings per knob in those or not. I have replaced so many knobs this year that I forget which had 2 bearings and which and a bushing and a bearing.

[CFDoc]

39 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Sure, they are the same size.  I just can't remember if there are 2 bearings per knob in those or not. I have replaced so many knobs this year that I forget which had 2 bearings and which and a bushing and a bearing.

The met knobs have 2 bearings, both the same size, per knob.

[SunnyAllDay]

CFDoc, Thank you for the clarification on the bearings. Also, I appreciate the research you did on the spool size vs. line diameter vs casting length. I think I'm going to spool on 40# braid. That should give me plenty of line to work with.

[jbsoonerfan]

5 minutes ago, SunnyAllDay said:

CFDoc, Thank you for the clarification on the bearings. Also, I appreciate the research you did on the spool size vs. line diameter vs casting length. I think I'm going to spool on 40# braid. That should give me plenty of line to work with.

I use 40lb Sufix 832 and throw chatterbaits with mine and it works perfect! You will enjoy it!

[SunnyAllDay]

I understand that's a great braid! Do you use a leader? Also, are you a fan of the lo-vis green? A friend of mine uses KastKing SuperKast-9 and really likes that one too.

[jbsoonerfan]

I use a leader on one of my t-rig set ups but not on the chatterbait rod. I also have a rod that I use for chatterbaits that has 16 lb sniper on it. I prefer to throw the braid but when I am fishing the wood, I switch to the straight fluoro.

[SunnyAllDay]

Thank again, JB. I'm going to be pairing the new reel with a Poison Adrena (73MHF) and using it for t-rigs too. That said, I'm also going to hopefully have good luck using it with 3/8-1/2oz chatterbaits and buzzbaits. 

Just now, SunnyAllDay said:

Thanks again, JB. I'm going to be pairing the new reel with a Poison Adrena (73MHF) and using it for t-rigs too. That said, I'm also going to hopefully have good luck using it with 3/8-1/2oz chatterbaits and buzzbaits. 

 

[jbsoonerfan]

I had one on a 7'3 MH Poison Adrena.....Key word HAD lol

[SunnyAllDay]

23 minutes ago, SunnyAllDay said:

 

 

 

Thanks again, JB. I'm going to pair my new reel with a Poison Adrena (73MHF) rod for T-rigs too. I'm hoping it performs equally well on 3/8-1/2oz chatterbaits and buzzbaits.

[SunnyAllDay]

oof, you converted your 1-piece rod into a 3-piece. Sorry to see that. I'm sure there's a good backstory to that but probably too painful to relive. Did you like the rod while it was operable?

[jbsoonerfan]

It was a great rod! My favorite by far. No good story really. I have never caught a 20lb bass but that doesn't prevent me from setting the hook as if each fish I catch is a 20 pounder. Felt the tap, tap and swung away and the rod just blew up. Never seen anything like it in 25 years of fishing. I sent it back to Shimano but I have yet to hear from them which really worries me. 

[SunnyAllDay]

Wow, the best of luck getting a replacement from Shimano. That would be awesome if you could swing that. This will be my first "high-end" rod purchase so I'm hoping I feel the same way you did about your Adrena.

[SunnyAllDay]

Ok, new reel came in from Japan. It looks great but I notice that when I flick the handle it only turns about 1-1.5 times. I was thinking it should spin 6 or 7 revolutions. Should I be concerned something is binding up in the gearing? This is the Metanium 20 from Japan (JDM model).

 

I also noticed that regardless of how much I back off on the drag the spool does not loosen in side to side motion.

[jbsoonerfan]

1 minute ago, SunnyAllDay said:

Ok, new reel came in from Japan. It looks great but I notice that when I flick the handle it only turns about 1-1.5 times. I was thinking it should spin 6 or 7 revolutions. Should I be concerned something is binding up in the gearing? This is the Metanium 20 from Japan (JDM model).

No, they aren't made to flick, they are made to turn.

[SunnyAllDay]

It's super smooth when turning. Thanks for your comment regards flicking the handle.

 

Actually, now that I reviewed a couple youtube videos, I see some folks just casually flicking the handle and it is indeed spinning at least 3-4 revolutions. If I flick mine fairly aggressively it only goes maybe 2 revolutions. Ugh.

 

[mrpao]

Probably just heavily greased.

Also try loosening the cast control knob not the drag if you want a more free spool.

[shegarty]

On 10/21/2020 at 8:44 AM, CFDoc said:

 

I got extremely lucky in finding some USDM-sized knobs on another site's swap & sell forum. However, one of my JDM met's still has the smaller knobs on it. I will probably replace them one day though.

 

As far as spool size and running out of line, my experience has been that with 10, 12, & 15 pound diameter line this has not been a problem. Even with 1/2 oz aerodynamic baits.

 

With 20lb line and aerodynamic baits, I can absolutely cast down to the last few loops of the spool. This would be with something like 1/2oz tungsten on a speed craw and things like that. Chatter baits I haven't had an issue with it because I find the big blade on chatter baits to flap around on most casts and cause a good bit of aerodynamic drag. I also haven't had the issue with any crank baits I've tried thus far. But I don't do much deep cranking.

any chance you're willing to part with a usdm spool?

[HunterBull]

Has anyone swapped gears in their 2020 Metanium yet? I got an 8:1 because one popped up and I jumped on it a while back, but I wanted a 7:1 the whole time. I’m considering buying a set of 7:1 gears and just swapping them out, as well as carbontex washers. I’d also have the pro of having a larger handle on the reel. That’s why I ordered an 8:1 on my Metanium DC as well, because I anticipate to change the gears on it after a few months and the handle on the 6:1 and 7:1 are just too small.

[Spiritbro77]

So after some time fishing with this reel, is everyone still stoked about them? Would you recommend them to others? I have a couple Daiwa Tatula's and just ordered the new Scorpion DC. There are good deals on used Shimano 20 Metanium's once in a while and I was wondering if everyone still loved theirs? 

[softwateronly]

16 hours ago, Spiritbro77 said:

So after some time fishing with this reel, is everyone still stoked about them? Would you recommend them to others? I have a couple Daiwa Tatula's and just ordered the new Scorpion DC. There are good deals on used Shimano 20 Metanium's once in a while and I was wondering if everyone still loved theirs? 

 

I have a few JDM 7:1 and still really love them.  Very comfortable, and have a great "solid feel."  I'm not sure if there's anything to be disappointed in other than I'll probably get a larger handle down the road.  If the price works for you, I think you'll be happy.

 

scott

[Spiritbro77]

7 hours ago, softwateronly said:

 

I have a few JDM 7:1 and still really love them.  Very comfortable, and have a great "solid feel."  I'm not sure if there's anything to be disappointed in other than I'll probably get a larger handle down the road.  If the price works for you, I think you'll be happy.

 

scott

Thanks Scott. Appreciate the info. I pulled the trigger on one from Japan. *Fingers Crossed* 

[softwateronly]

1 hour ago, Spiritbro77 said:

Thanks Scott. Appreciate the info. I pulled the trigger on one from Japan. *Fingers Crossed* 

 

Best of luck and tight lines!

 

scott