Internal Tube Rigging

[Finessegenics]

I have a few questions. I am looking for suggestions on tube jigs (3/8 & 1/2) with a long shank and a 60 degree line tie. Doesnt have to be the goby-head like you see in the pic below. Would be great if I can get them on TW or anywhere online.

 

The reason I'm asking is becayseI'm having trouble rigging my 3.5 inch tubes. I find that the shank of the hook is too short, forcing me to pop out the line tie before the end of the tube. Is this a real problem or am I just worrying about something that doesnt really matter? By the way, I like to use berkley power tubes and I picked up some coffee tubes today if that makes any difference, Thanks. 

[A-Jay]

Timing is everything ~ 

I JUST (and I mean 2 minutes ago) ordered these from Reaction Tackle

https://www.reactiontackle.com/collections/shaky-head-jigs/products/reaction-tackle-tungsten-tube-jig-heads-5-pack-for-bass-tube-fishing

They are tungsten (small head) and allow for a weedless rigging presentation.

Trokar makes a lead head model - but I am Not A Fan of that hook. 

A-Jay

1 hour ago, Finessegenics said:

I have a few questions. I am looking for suggestions on tube jigs (3/8 & 1/2) with a long shank and a 60 degree line tie. Doesnt have to be the goby-head like you see in the pic below. Would be great if I can get them on TW or anywhere online.

 

The reason I'm asking is becayseI'm having trouble rigging my 3.5 inch tubes. I find that the shank of the hook is too short, forcing me to pop out the line tie before the end of the tube. Is this a real problem or am I just worrying about something that doesnt really matter? By the way, I like to use berkley power tubes and I picked up some coffee tubes today if that makes any difference, Thanks. 

For short hook shank in tubes, 

I make a small slice in the bait at the end to accommodate the hook.

Tube runs right, hooks good and lasts a little longer.

btw - I like the Bite Me Tackle Big Dude Goby Head Tube Jigs

A-Jay

[papajoe222]

You’ll get a lot more action on the fall if you don’t insert the jig all the way to the nose.  
I order my jigs from a guy that pours his own using a stronger, longer hook with a 60 degree horizontal line tie. He doesn’t, however, offer anything heavier than 5/16oz.  

Don’t know if I’d go the tungsten route when not rigging ‘stupid’ style because I hang up tube jigs a lot. 

[roadwarrior]

Owner Phantom Tube Weights, Texposed and weedless!

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Owner_Phantom_Weighted_Tube_Hooks_4pk/descpage-OWTH.html

[johnmyers]

check Secret Lures stupid tube 

[FishinBuck07]

I have heads like the ones in your photo, they are made by Poor Boys Baits.  I also recently found a brand of stupid tube jig heads that I really like, they are made by Blue Rock Custom Tackle.  

[Finessegenics]

On 2/18/2020 at 5:05 AM, roadwarrior said:

Owner Phantom Tube Weights, Texposed and weedless!

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Owner_Phantom_Weighted_Tube_Hooks_4pk/descpage-OWTH.html

Wow! I spent hours on TW looking at terminal tackle last night yet I didn’t come across those ones. They look sweet, I just wish they had heavier weights. Gonna try them anyways. 

[Finessegenics]

5 hours ago, johnmyers said:

check Secret Lures stupid tube 

I am just checking these out now. 3/0 or 4/0 for 3.5 inch tubes? They look great so thank you

[Jaderose]

Do this.....works GREAT.  I made up about 20 of them in no time.  

 

 

[crypt]

On 2/18/2020 at 5:05 AM, roadwarrior said:

Owner Phantom Tube Weights, Texposed and weedless!

 

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Owner_Phantom_Weighted_Tube_Hooks_4pk/descpage-OWTH.html

I use these for  flipping tubes.just add a weight to the front and I'm good to go.  they work great.

[Finessegenics]

1 hour ago, Jaderose said:

Do this.....works GREAT.  I made up about 20 of them in no time.  

 

 

That's awesome. I'll give those a shot instead of buying them, probably way cheaper in the long run. Which exact hooks and weights did you use? Thanks

[Michigander]

1 hour ago, Finessegenics said:

That's awesome. I'll give those a shot instead of buying them, probably way cheaper in the long run. Which exact hooks and weights did you use? Thanks

I am modifying the Phantoms. Out of the box they are super fragile and break easy. But they are phenomenal until they break. The reason I am modifying instead of just building like in the video is because the Phantom hook is unique and unavailable otherwise. Owner doesn't sell them unassembled.

Also, that video doesn't fix the main design flaw in my opinion. I'm putting a washer ahead of the weight stack so the internals don't get ripped out of the hole that passing the hook through the tube head creates. I'm also adding a rattle!

[Finessegenics]

2 hours ago, Michigander said:

I am modifying the Phantoms. Out of the box they are super fragile and break easy. But they are phenomenal until they break. The reason I am modifying instead of just building like in the video is because the Phantom hook is unique and unavailable otherwise. Owner doesn't sell them unassembled.

Also, that video doesn't fix the main design flaw in my opinion. I'm putting a washer ahead of the weight stack so the internals don't get ripped out of the hole that passing the hook through the tube head creates. I'm also adding a rattle!

Are there any hooks that are similar enough? There’s plenty 60 degree jig hooks on TW but I’m not sure if those are the right to use, or if it should be more of a WG style? I’ll try out the phantoms either way but in the long run I want to try making my own. 
 

 

[Michigander]

2 hours ago, Finessegenics said:

Are there any hooks that are similar enough? There’s plenty 60 degree jig hooks on TW but I’m not sure if those are the right to use, or if it should be more of a WG style? I’ll try out the phantoms either way but in the long run I want to try making my own. 
 

 

The Phantom hooks have a pretty deep belly if that makes sense. I tend to use bulkier tubes so having that extra clearance is important to me but may not be to you. The nice thing about getting a pack is that you can see the hook and it comes with all the hardware you need to rebuild it. Basically just break the cheap crimp on the weight stack and replace the wire with some heavier braided line. Like I said, I am putting a small aluminum washer closest to the eye of the hook to keep the tube from getting ripped out.

[Jaderose]

7 hours ago, Finessegenics said:

That's awesome. I'll give those a shot instead of buying them, probably way cheaper in the long run. Which exact hooks and weights did you use? Thanks

If I'm not mistaken he tells you in this video what hooks he (and ultimately I) was using.  The weights are just longer spit shot keel weights you put on hooks for horizontal drop.

 

 

Yeah...he does.  It's literally the very first thing in the video.  You can find the Mustad hooks and weights online

 

[Finessegenics]

1 hour ago, Jaderose said:

If I'm not mistaken he tells you in this video what hooks he (and ultimately I) was using.  The weights are just longer spit shot keel weights you put on hooks for horizontal drop.

 

 

Yeah...he does.  It's literally the very first thing in the video.  You can find the Mustad hooks and weights online

 

My bad...watched it very quick while taking care of some other business. Thought he just mentioned the size, thanks!

[Jaderose]

I think he used 1/8th oz weights in the video.  I had some 1/4's and I think even some 3/8's laying around and used those so you can go heavier

 

[Jaderose]

Also, I know you said you wanted 60 degree.  Get some and try it!  I really don't see why they wouldn't work

[OnthePotomac]

Never used internal weights on my tubes.  I Texas rig them with a 3/0 tube hook and a 3/16 bullet slip sinker and either pegged, or unpegged depending on where they are going.  I peg with the teenie rubber bobber stoppers then I can either let the slip sinker slide away from the tube for more action, or peg it down to the tube. On rare occasions, depending on grass density, I will throw a stupid tube shown here:

 

[Finessegenics]

1 hour ago, Jaderose said:

Also, I know you said you wanted 60 degree.  Get some and try it!  I really don't see why they wouldn't work

I just ordered the 30 degree ones the video used. I guess it’s good enough. My only question now is do you think a M/F spinning rod has enough power to drive a 3/0 jig hook? I’d think so but I’m wondering if I’ll be missing hookups this way. A M/F spinning rod works great even for heavier gauge hooks when they are exposed, but I’m having doubts about this one, since it’ll be semi-weedless

 

edit: I don’t really plan on casting/pitching these into cover or grass, even though they can definitely get that job done. I’d be dragging/hopping them over chunk rock, gravel and sand flats. Just wanted to add that to M/F spinning rod question. 

[Michigander]

1 hour ago, Finessegenics said:

I just ordered the 30 degree ones the video used. I guess it’s good enough. My only question now is do you think a M/F spinning rod has enough power to drive a 3/0 jig hook? I’d think so but I’m wondering if I’ll be missing hookups this way. A M/F spinning rod works great even for heavier gauge hooks when they are exposed, but I’m having doubts about this one, since it’ll be semi-weedless

 

edit: I don’t really plan on casting/pitching these into cover or grass, even though they can definitely get that job done. I’d be dragging/hopping them over chunk rock, gravel and sand flats. Just wanted to add that to M/F spinning rod question. 

I fish mine in light-medium vegetation with a MH spinning rod. No problems with hook penetration as long as the hooks are sharp.

[Jaderose]

4 hours ago, Finessegenics said:

I just ordered the 30 degree ones the video used. I guess it’s good enough. My only question now is do you think a M/F spinning rod has enough power to drive a 3/0 jig hook? I’d think so but I’m wondering if I’ll be missing hookups this way. A M/F spinning rod works great even for heavier gauge hooks when they are exposed, but I’m having doubts about this one, since it’ll be semi-weedless

 

edit: I don’t really plan on casting/pitching these into cover or grass, even though they can definitely get that job done. I’d be dragging/hopping them over chunk rock, gravel and sand flats. Just wanted to add that to M/F spinning rod question. 

This is about what I throw mine on.  I think you'll be fine