Lighter Jig Rod

[Quarry Man]

Going to really focus on my bigger bottom-contact baits this year. I mean Texas rigs, flipping, punching, flipping jigs, finesse jigs, wobble has etc.

 

I'm currently running a 7' mh avid x w/ an 8.2:1 Curado 70 and 15 lb invisx (might up to 17lb)

 

next setup im going to be running is a 7'2" MH F Lowrider with either a Tatula SV, Tatula Elite, or Aldebaran and 20 lb invisx

 

I am stuck between getting a 6'10" mh finesse jig rod or a 6'7" weightless worm rod. I have a lot of 7' mh rods already so im starting to lean towards a 6'7" mh

 

7' mh is for 3/8oz jigs pitching docks and cover, sometimes half ounce. will also fish wobble heads. the 7'2" is my swim jig rod, but will serve as a big jig rod until I buy a 7'6" h way down the road.

 

 

So 6'7" mh for finesse jigs and a lighter all purpose rod or a 6'10" mh? kinda leaning towards shorter like I said.

[Nelson Delaney]

Splurge and get a nrx 853

[Quarry Man]

1 hour ago, Nelson Delaney said:

Splurge and get a nrx 853

wish I had that kinda $$$$, only reason im looking at an Aldebaran is I found a decent used old model

[Michigander]

1 hour ago, Nelson Delaney said:

Splurge and get a nrx 853

[kayaking_kev]

Ever thought about building your own rod? The MHX 784MB sounds like it might be perfect, it weighs 2.4 oz.

I'm kinda looking for the same thing but in a Medium power for smallmouth. 

[Bandersnatch]

1 hour ago, Michigander said:

Or the 893,the 893 is fabulous 

[WRB]

Shorter doesn't mean lighter, lighter refers to power/action in my book.

In a few words you are over thinking this.

Tom

[Bluebasser86]

I use a 7' M/XF LTB/9.1 SV Zillion with 15lb Tatsu for jigs <3/8oz.

 

IMO, finesse jigs are often called for in clear water situations when you need a longer cast, where a shorter rod is a poor choice.

[CountryboyinDC]

8 hours ago, Quarry Man said:

I am stuck between getting a 6'10" mh finesse jig rod or a 6'7" weightless worm rod. I have a lot of 7' mh rods already so im starting to lean towards a 6'7" mh

If you're sticking with Falcon rods, the finesse jig rod will probably make you happy, at least it has for me.  I have the Cara T7 one, and one in the attic in case something should happen to the one I use.  I don't know how they came to a MH rating on that one.  Since you have a MH Avid casting, this would be a M maybe even ML compared to that rod.  I don't own a weightless worm taper, but I remember fishing one someone else had (I think it was an old Expert), and I thought it was a tad slow for a jig or worm rod.  Might be good for a smaller trap or squarebill, though.

[new2BC4bass]

Although I have rods below 7', I prefer that length or longer....especially in MH/H.  I really don't understand why you want a 6'7" unless 1) for use in tight spots, or 2) you simply like that length (to which I can relate).

[Quarry Man]

8 hours ago, CountryboyinDC said:

If you're sticking with Falcon rods, the finesse jig rod will probably make you happy, at least it has for me.  I have the Cara T7 one, and one in the attic in case something should happen to the one I use.  I don't know how they came to a MH rating on that one.  Since you have a MH Avid casting, this would be a M maybe even ML compared to that rod.  I don't own a weightless worm taper, but I remember fishing one someone else had (I think it was an old Expert), and I thought it was a tad slow for a jig or worm rod.  Might be good for a smaller trap or squarebill, though.

I’m going to be using the rod for pitching lil finesse jigs to docks and such, just the corners, not deep underneath. I’m thinking if I get the 6’7” I can use the smaller moving baits like you said. Might not be ideal for finesse jigs but a great all around rod for lighter applications. My only concern with the finesse jig specific rod is that I have a bunch of 7’ mh rods: 7’1” omen black (chatterbait rod), 7’ mh mod fast (spinner bait rod), 7’ mh avid x (mid weight jig rod), 7’1” mh muse black (all purpose, might be finesse jig rod)

[Michigander]

I'm going to be using a 7'2" M for finesse jigs for this year. Provided that the rod can cast the weight of the lure, the power of the rod is dependent upon how heavy of a wire your hooks are. I'm using light wire so a medium is perfect.

[CountryboyinDC]

2 hours ago, Quarry Man said:

Might not be ideal for finesse jigs but a great all around rod for lighter applications.

I agree with that.  I think there may be some better rods for finesse jigs that are less are around that length, but I pretty well use the finesse jignrod for everything.

[Quarry Man]

1 minute ago, CountryboyinDC said:

I agree with that.  I think there may be some better rods for finesse jigs that are less are around that length, but I pretty well use the finesse jignrod for everything.

the two finesse jigs I will be throwing I will link. Will a 6'7" MH lowrider or 7'1" mh muse black work for 1/4 and 3/8 oz?

 

https://www.baitbuffet.com/dp-finesse-jig.html#/ - 4/0 Gamakatsu heavy wire

 

https://dirtyjigstackle.com/products.php?cat=117 - 4/0 Gamakatsu, no clue what power

[dodgeguy]

6-8 mh  bass pro shop Patriot rod.10 year warranty made in USA $199.00. 

[basscrusher]

I have the finesse jig in the Cara, and the weightless worm in both Cara and Lowrider.  If it really is going to be used for small jigs, get the finesse jig.  Superb rod.  I use mine a lot, have even pulled 6 pound bass out of potomac hydrilla with it.  Everyone says it is underpowered...my catches say otherwise.  It is a true MH with a soft tip.  And I fished St Croix almost exclusively before discovering Falcon, so I know powerful rods.  The weightless worm is a great rod.  One of the most versatile I've ever used, but not for anything that requires lots of power to drive home a big hook.  Some people say it is the best jerkbait rod ever.  I use mine for traps, wakebaits, and exposed-hook plastics.  Sometimes I might throw small jigs with it in some of my local dink ponds (with braid) but I would not use it for such near any real cover.  Hope this helps, let me know if I can answer any other questions for you.  Especially since I own 13 falcons (at least...having trouble remembering at the moment), so I can speak to their unique attributes.

[CountryboyinDC]

@Quarry Man, the baitbuffet jig you linked to is like the finesse jigs I use.  I used to use a War Eagle Heavy Finesse jig (3/8 oz) all the time, but I bought some Santones (Texas Finesse jig, 5/16 oz) that I believe I like better.  Again, the finesse jig rod works great for these.  The original Jewell finesse jigs have a really thin wire hook (and no bait keeper which is why I don't use them), so if you use ones with a thin wire hook like those, you may be fine with a slower or even less powerful rod. 

I disagree with @basscrusher, I don't think many other manufacturers would rate the finesse jig rod a MH.  Even for Falcon, it's on the light side.  That doesn't mean it's a bad taper - it's perfect for finesse jigs in my mind, and I almost always have it when I'm fishing for river smallmouth.  It doesn't always have a finesse jig tied to it, I also like a small spinnerbait with Indiana blades, Texas rigs, and a paddle tail swimbait on this rod.  

[Quarry Man]

33 minutes ago, CountryboyinDC said:

@Quarry Man, the baitbuffet jig you linked to is like the finesse jigs I use.  I used to use a War Eagle Heavy Finesse jig (3/8 oz) all the time, but I bought some Santones (Texas Finesse jig, 5/16 oz) that I believe I like better.  Again, the finesse jig rod works great for these.  The original Jewell finesse jigs have a really thin wire hook (and no bait keeper which is why I don't use them), so if you use ones with a thin wire hook like those, you may be fine with a slower or even less powerful rod. 

I disagree with @basscrusher, I don't think many other manufacturers would rate the finesse jig rod a MH.  Even for Falcon, it's on the light side.  That doesn't mean it's a bad taper - it's perfect for finesse jigs in my mind, and I almost always have it when I'm fishing for river smallmouth.  It doesn't always have a finesse jig tied to it, I also like a small spinnerbait with Indiana blades, Texas rigs, and a paddle tail swimbait on this rod.  

 

3 hours ago, basscrusher said:

I have the finesse jig in the Cara, and the weightless worm in both Cara and Lowrider.  If it really is going to be used for small jigs, get the finesse jig.  Superb rod.  I use mine a lot, have even pulled 6 pound bass out of potomac hydrilla with it.  Everyone says it is underpowered...my catches say otherwise.  It is a true MH with a soft tip.  And I fished St Croix almost exclusively before discovering Falcon, so I know powerful rods.  The weightless worm is a great rod.  One of the most versatile I've ever used, but not for anything that requires lots of power to drive home a big hook.  Some people say it is the best jerkbait rod ever.  I use mine for traps, wakebaits, and exposed-hook plastics.  Sometimes I might throw small jigs with it in some of my local dink ponds (with braid) but I would not use it for such near any real cover.  Hope this helps, let me know if I can answer any other questions for you.  Especially since I own 13 falcons (at least...having trouble remembering at the moment), so I can speak to their unique attributes.

This is exactly what I wanted to hear from you guys. Thank you. Looks like I’m gonna be purchasing both rods!

 

to elaborate, I have three of the Bucoo micro series that I can trade in for Lowriders. I was going to get a 7’2 mh swim jig, 7’ mh mod fast spinner bait rod and either of the two above. Now I’m really struggling bc they both seem like great rods. I will probably get the weightless worm as my muse can cover as a finesse jig rod until I buy the 6’10” Lowrider.

 

any experience with the 7’2”mh?

How do y’all like to fish finesse jigs, it’s a newer technique to me but I feel more confused my pitching that to dock edges than a big jig

 

[CountryboyinDC]

I know folks like to point you to content developed by this site, and the second part of the video deals with pitching to cover which sounds like what you want to do (I honestly didn't watch the whole thing) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DYIPY5KMqZgw&ved=2ahUKEwimks35gdbnAhWnhOAKHZJqDjUQFjAGegQIDxAe&sqi=2&usg=AOvVaw03vCOKzPkVj8DNGYX3nQx9. 

I use a finesse jig fishing for river smallmouth because they (the fish) aren't so big in a lot of cases.  I'll fish undercut banks (particularly the outside bends) pretty thoroughly, around grass islands, and then use the same jig if I miss one with a more reactive bait when I fish the push water above a rapid.  If the river is rising, that tends to push the fish toward the banks and especially to creek mouths, so the jig comes in handy there too.  If there's a dock, bridge pilings, or other similar structure, I may use a finesse jig, but not always.  So that's a little different than what you want to do,  but maybe some will apply.  The one thing that I've come to realize, and this is in the video too, is that you need to be a little more slow and subtle with a finesse jig than a regular casting or flipping jig, regardless of where you're fishing it.  The shorter rod might help with that, since we often fail to realize how much that impacts the amount we move the bait.

[Quarry Man]

2 hours ago, CountryboyinDC said:

I know folks like to point you to content developed by this site, and the second part of the video deals with pitching to cover which sounds like what you want to do (I honestly didn't watch the whole thing) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DYIPY5KMqZgw&ved=2ahUKEwimks35gdbnAhWnhOAKHZJqDjUQFjAGegQIDxAe&sqi=2&usg=AOvVaw03vCOKzPkVj8DNGYX3nQx9. 

I use a finesse jig fishing for river smallmouth because they (the fish) aren't so big in a lot of cases.  I'll fish undercut banks (particularly the outside bends) pretty thoroughly, around grass islands, and then use the same jig if I miss one with a more reactive bait when I fish the push water above a rapid.  If the river is rising, that tends to push the fish toward the banks and especially to creek mouths, so the jig comes in handy there too.  If there's a dock, bridge pilings, or other similar structure, I may use a finesse jig, but not always.  So that's a little different than what you want to do,  but maybe some will apply.  The one thing that I've come to realize, and this is in the video too, is that you need to be a little more slow and subtle with a finesse jig than a regular casting or flipping jig, regardless of where you're fishing it.  The shorter rod might help with that, since we often fail to realize how much that impacts the amount we move the bait.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, means a lot

[CountryboyinDC]

Good luck with your new gear and fishing with them.

[Boomstick]

Like WRB already said, shorter and lighter aren't really the same thing. What do you hope to accomplish with this "lighter" jig rod? Or are you just looking for a more leightweight rod for jigs that don't need a massive hookset/

[evo2s197]

If your not dead set on the lowrider rod, the Major craft MS-1 series is far superior.

[Quarry Man]

4 hours ago, Boomstick said:

Like WRB already said, shorter and lighter aren't really the same thing. What do you hope to accomplish with this "lighter" jig rod? Or are you just looking for a more leightweight rod for jigs that don't need a massive hookset/

meant lighter powered

as in medium light compared to heavier

4 hours ago, evo2s197 said:

If your not dead set on the lowrider rod, the Major craft MS-1 series is far superior.

I can only choose from the lowrider at the moment, will consider down the road tho

[Boomstick]

4 hours ago, Quarry Man said:

meant lighter powered

as in medium light compared to heavier

I can only choose from the lowrider at the moment, will consider down the road tho

Alright but where I am confused is if you have a lot of MH rods, wouldn't a M or MH/MF or the like be a step down? Or are you trying to use the current MH rods for things like spinnerbaits or soft plastics and looking for one specifically for jigs? I may be overthinking this but that's why I am confused.