New to Ned - Help Please!

[PABassFish007]

Hello everyone - I am new to the Ned Rig but hear so many good things about it.  I've done some research on it but it seems to be confusing.  Can you all help me in answering some questions? 

 

1) What's your favorite rod/reel for the Ned Rig? (I've read M or ML) need recommendations!

 

2) What line are you using? - I've always used straight Fluro - what's the advantage of using braid to fluro if that's your pick? 

 

3) Can I use this setup for Trout as well? 

 

*Keep in mind I live in northern PA and the fish dont get over 6 lbs, and the depths are typically 15ft or less

 

Thanks in advance for all the help!!

[Corey T]

I’m going to piggy back off of this quick. How important is an extra fast taper vs. a fast taper?

[PhishLI]

The gear is important. I'll let others remark on that. Make sure that you have the terrain for it. My local spots are so fouled with veg that I can't throw a Ned even now that much of it has died back. Each cast results in bringing up a slimy mess. I can only throw it in certain lakes a good ride from my house.

[tander]

There is probably several good answers but here is what works for me. I use a Lews 6 1/2 foot med. rod,  with a Pflueger 30 size XT Supreme reel. I spool it with 10# test Power Pro yellow braid. I have about a 5 foot 7# test Sunline  Sniper leader joined with a Alberto knot. Most of the time, I throw a 1/16 oz jig with a TRD or some other Z Man plastic. This what I use probably 80% of the time.

[JFlynn97]

I throw it on a 6'9" medium/fast rod with light braid or fluoro and have never had a problem. I opted for a medium because my local waters have a lot of grass so I wanted something with a bit more power behind it if I get caught in grass. I imagine a medium light works just as well and likely better in areas with less grass because it's an exposed hook presentation so you really don't need a lot of oomph to your rod.

[browne762]

1) I use a 7'6" St Croix Legend Tournament MLXF with a 1000 Stradic Ci4+

 

2) 10lb Power Pro in yellow with a 6lb Fluoro leader. I like the braid doesn't stretch, is easy to see and doesn't have much line memory. If I get stuck, I can break off at the union knot and I didn't loose out X number of feet of mainline.

 

3) IDK, I don't fish for trout but probably.

 

30 minutes ago, Midwest Big Bass said:

I’m going to piggy back off of this quick. How important is an extra fast taper vs. a fast taper?

The tip on my rod really dances when there is even a very minor input from the fish. I find it really lets me know if something is going on. I don't have the same rod in fast to compare it to though. 

[A-Jay]

Far from an expert Neg Rigger, only been throwing them for a couple of seasons.

Manged to catch a few. 

I use & prefer the same gear for the Neg Rig that I use for my hair jig fishing.

The baits are similar in weight and I present them in much the same manner.

I spool up with 10 lb braid main line and use a a fairly long 8lb FC leader as well. 

I talk a little about my set up here ~ 

 

A-Jay

[Khoa Vu]

1) What's your favorite rod/reel for the Ned Rig? (I've read M or ML) need recommendations!

 

6'6-7' Medium Light/Fast to XFast action, most sensitive stick you can afford. Go longer (7'3 to 7'6) if you fish open water majority of the time.

 

2) What line are you using? - I've always used straight Fluro - what's the advantage of using braid to fluro if that's your pick? 

 

10lb PowerPro braid to 8lb mono leader. Advantage of braid to any leader line is that braid is super sensitive when line's semi-tight to tight. Floro is actually better at detecting bite on semi-slack compared to braid (correct me if I'm wrong). I use mono as leader as a shock absorber. 

 

3) Can I use this setup for Trout as well? 

 

I don't see why not. 

[Jermination]

38 minutes ago, PABassFish007 said:

Hello everyone - I am new to the Ned Rig but hear so many good things about it.  I've done some research on it but it seems to be confusing.  Can you all help me in answering some questions? 

 

1) What's your favorite rod/reel for the Ned Rig? (I've read M or ML) need recommendations!

 

2) What line are you using? - I've always used straight Fluro - what's the advantage of using braid to fluro if that's your pick? 

 

3) Can I use this setup for Trout as well? 

 

*Keep in mind I live in northern PA and the fish dont get over 6 lbs, and the depths are typically 15ft or less

 

Thanks in advance for all the help!!

1. Pfleuger supreme, all star series 6'8 M/F(purple rod, probably 70 bucks at academy, i have way more expensive but this rod is by far my most dependable setup)

 

2. Powerpro braid 10lb tied to 10lb pline shinsei leader(this is the best leader line i have ever used, once i started my break offs went down A TON)--several advantages of using braid to fluoro leader--your reel will not explode with wind knots. sensitivity is much better with braid. hooksets are easier with braid as you just reel and lift. cheaper, braid will last a few years as opposed to an entire fluoro spool. better sensitivity because of the no stretch factor

 

3. I didnt see the ned type mentioned, but i would not buy or use anything other than the zman ned lockz. they are fantastic and will not bend regardless the size of fish. I typically throw the 1/5 oz but i would downsize if you are getting hung up too much in the rocks. 

 

4. i dont see why not, if im using artificial bait i just throw a rooster tail. ive never fished for trout with neds specifically i usually just use corn or nightcrawlers, but see no reason why it wouldnt work.  

 

purple rod in the pic. i use the lews for my damiki setup

[walleyecrazy]

I find the best rods for the Ned rig to be ML power with a fast to extra fast tip. You need something that is going to load up on a lure as light as the Ned rig is. Also I would definitely go braid to leader. The braid will give you better casting distance over the straight flouro. I usually run 10lb braid to either 6 or 8lb leader. Also buy the best spinning real you can afford as a smooth drag is super important with the light wire hooks used in with this technique. I actually just picked up a new setup to use specifically for Ned rigs which is a Daiwa Tatula Elite 7’6” ML paired with a Daiwa Tatula LT 3000. 

[BoatSquirrel]

You can absolutely use a ned setup for trout.  I think a good inline spinner setup would throw a ned just fine.

I have only to add what another member was so wise to recommend which was the Lifted Jigs EWG Ned head.  My lakes here in middle TN are deep with rock and wood.  I have gone multiple days using the same head without breaking off.  Swims through trash well and sticks em right in the roof of the mouth.  Good luck bro!

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lifted_Jigs_Ned_EWG_Jig_Heads_3pk/descpage-LIFTND.html

[Tizi]

I use a 6'6" ML Carbon Lite 2.0 with 2500 Fuego LT and 6 lb Yo-Zuri hybrid.  I don't use braid to leader for anything.

[NittyGrittyBoy]

Does anyone use a mono leader in place of flouro? 

[Cityangler7]

Dobyns Champion 701SF with a Stradic 2500 Ci 4+ with 10lb 832 with a copolymer leader. 

[JustJames]

I don’t see any problem of using Light to Medium, fast or Xfast rod as long as it can cast Ned. Remember 1/16oz with Zman TRD total weight is close to 3/16oz (any spinning rod should be able to handle this just fine). Now if you wanna use the same setup for trout you should concern more about trout lure weight which normally lighter than 1/8oz. In this case, I op for Light to ML at least you can cast 1/8oz kastmaster or in-line spinner.

 

Line, typical line for small spinning reel is thin braid/super line, less twisted and cast further. Using leader is also depends on location, bottom structure at your lake. I Around rock area I would use 6lb FC or copolymer leader other than that I would go straight braid.

 

To sum up, my favorite rod/reel For Ned 1/20oz or 1/16oz Jig head.

1 shimano crucial 6’8 M/XF, Shimano Ci4 2500 size. Line 10-15lb braidz

2. Shimano Sensilite 6’6 UL Fast, Shimano Sahara 750 or Daiwa Tatula LT 1000. Line 8lb PP or 8lb Nanofil always with FC leader. This also double as my panfish setup that cast cast 1/16oz true weight just fine.

[LCG]

I use a 6'8 M-XF Carbonite 2.0 rod paired with a Shimano stradic fl 2500 and spooled with 10lb - 20lb braid to a 6lb hybrid leader. Love using braid for its sensitivity, lack of line memory, and longevity. The rod is rated 1/8-1/2oz.

 

Using a light wire hook a trout rod should work fine, but I would feel more comfortable with at least a medium light powered rod. 

 

I like to use a size 2 ewg hook and texas rig a TRD or the TRD craw. Keeps it from getting hung up all the time. Works well. 

[BrianNJ31]

I don’t spend much on rods often, but since I fish the Ned so often I figured it was worth it. 7 ft M Expride with 2500 Stradic ci4+. 10 lb power pro braid to an 8 lb flouro leader. Super sensitive, I can tell when I’m on a rock, leaf, sand etc. A very fun way to fish. 

[johnmyers]

I’m using Loomis GLX 821 and 822 shakey head and NRX 852s JWR all work great and 821 should work well for trout. Using 20lb Smackdown with leader. Have fun

John

[Glenn]

 

[SuperDuty]

Man A-Jay, That dude was a beast. Well done! 

[gim]

Make sure ya’ll back off the drag when using those light wire Ned rig jigs. I’ve bent a couple on some big fish and lost them.

[MickD]

14 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said:

Does anyone use a mono leader in place of flouro? 

Yes, no problem.  Less fragile than most FC, about the same stretch (those who doubt, search for tests), lower specific gravity so theoretically won't sink as well as FC, but I don't think that's an issue. FC may provide a little straighter line from braid to lure?   I like FC for its being (theoretically again) less visible, but mono in the lighter weights should be OK.   I use FC fly tippet material, pricey but you don't use that much and it's supposedly tougher than FC designed to be line.

In the north for SMB, the greens with some red are the best colors, IMO.  MY PB came on a new money Ned.  Don't mix these with any other plastics or you'll have a welded together mess.  Put them back into their own bags.  They are tough, so easily can be used quite a few times.

[PABassFish007]

This is all great information, I think I'm settled on a Shimano Ci4+     does anyone have recommendations on a rod to pair with this? Probably 200 or less

[MickD]

I build and am not familiar with commercial rods, but what I like the most for Neds is a 7' 2" "walleye rod," which is a fast action med lite power rod.  But I've used Neds on my St Croix SCV 7' fast action medium power rod which is more powerful than the walleye rod, and it works OK.  I think someone already mentioned you don't want too  much power with the light wire jigs, and a light tip helps strike detection by seeing the tip move.  Ned rigging is not considered an active technique, mostly moving the lure slightly at most.  

 

But I've used it drifting and done well, too.