Ned Jig Head Knot ?

[ChrisD46]

I currently use a Improved Clinch Knot for FC leader to Ned Jig Head (usually 1/16th oz.) . I was curious what others used as their leader / mainline  knot to Ned Jig Head ? Also curious if anyone has used a small loop knot line connection to a Ned Jig Head and if it provided any additional action on retrieves ?

[WRB]

With FC and Mono/copolymer line I use the San Diego jam knot using the jig weight to assist in tieing the knot. 

Tom

[The Bassman]

I've started using a 00 VMC crankbait snap on my jig heads. I know it goes against common thinking but I haven't noticed any drop in productivity. I don't use fluoro but it would make sense that whatever knot you use wouldn't be as subject to fatigue as a direct tie.

[WRB]

11 minutes ago, The Bassman said:

I've started using a 00 VMC crankbait snap on my jig heads. I know it goes against common thinking but I haven't noticed any drop in productivity. I don't use fluoro but it would make sense that whatever knot you use wouldn't be as subject to fatigue as a direct tie.

I would hope everyone reties knots when the line is weaken form abrasion or use several times during a single outing,including knots tied to snaps.

Tom

[Oklahoma Mike]

I would not recommend an improved clinch knot on FC. I use either an SDJ or Palomar knot depending on the application (palomar for the ned rig).

[MickD]

Improved clinch works fine on FC for me.  I have had a couple strange failures of loop knots with FC fly tippet with flies.    Failure is not in the knot, or unraveling, the loop simply breaks.  So I went back to the improved clinch and have had no problems since in spite of very high stress on the knot. ??

[Steve S]

Surprised not a lot of people use Uni knots. That’s all I use and it has worked great

[Team9nine]

FG in most instances these days, but an Alberto or J knot occasionally. Palomar gets the nod on direct tie, but have been playing with the Pitzen more and more this year. Loop knots tend to be inherently weaker than traditional knots, so I haven’t messed with them for Ned. Did start trying them for crappie jigging this year, but haven’t decided whether to mess with them for bass yet.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

1 hour ago, Steve S said:

Surprised not a lot of people use Uni knots. That’s all I use and it has worked great

I use a fish-n-fool knot its close to the same as uni while being stronger than palomar.

[CountryboyinDC]

For flurocarbon, l like the Shaw Grigsby knot unless I'm snelling a hook.  It isn't pretty and has 3 tag ends, but I have confidence in it.

[garroyo130]

3 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

I use a fish-n-fool knot its close to the same as uni while being stronger than palomar.

This is an excellent and easy to tie knot. Especially useful for braid. 

[txchaser]

For flouro, the San Diego Jam knot solved many of my break-off problems. It is also reasonably fast to tie, and easy to see if you didn't do it right.

 

 

[JustJames]

9 hours ago, Steve S said:

Surprised not a lot of people use Uni knots. That’s all I use and it has worked great

Uni knot here as well for FC/Mono. I used to use trilene exclusively for everything but found random knot failure from time to time especially on light line. I use 6 wraps for light line and 4-5 wraps for 8lb+.

 

11 hours ago, The Bassman said:

I've started using a 00 VMC crankbait snap on my jig heads. I know it goes against common thinking but I haven't noticed any drop in productivity. I don't use fluoro but it would make sense that whatever knot you use wouldn't be as subject to fatigue as a direct tie.

i do that too very often and don’t see any different with tie direct. I think it also help when fish Ned rig fast, just like I always use snap with crappie jig.

[Bluebasser86]

Alberto for the leader, Palomar for the knot to the jighead.

[Revival]

San Diego Jam and Alberto for me.

[Bird]

Alberto/Palomar

[ChrisD46]

17 hours ago, Oklahoma Mike said:

I would not recommend an improved clinch knot on FC. I use either an SDJ or Palomar knot depending on the application (palomar for the ned rig).

Doesn't a Palomar Knot cut into itself thus being a poor choice with FC line ?

[J Francho]

27 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said:

Doesn't a Palomar Knot cut into itself thus being a poor choice with FC line ?

No.  A properly tied Palomar is stronger than most knots. 

 

6# line, almost 6# smallmouth.  Palomar knot.

[Mbirdsley]

I’m on the polymer knot train at the moment.  Started with the improved clinch.  Next knot I want to get good at is the uni-knot 

[FryDog62]

I tie the Double Swindle Shindo Knot with no less than 16X points and loop it around 5, 6 or 7 times depending on how well they are schooling..

[Mbirdsley]

55 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said:

Doesn't a Palomar Knot cut into itself thus being a poor choice with FC line ?

I have never had a problem with a polymer knot and FC 

[FryDog62]

1 hour ago, Mbirdsley said:

I have never had a problem with a polymer knot and FC 

I’ve heard if you tie correctly and don’t cross the line over itself that a Palomar knot should hold on fluorocarbon.  And after years of tying, I never noticed a problem with the Palomar knot until two years ago it gave way on fluorocarbon 2-3 times.  I could see the curly cue at the end of the line so I know the knot failed on me. I thought I was careful tying the knot but most likely it was user error on my part or in a hurry.  Anyway, last year I switched over to the Grigsby knot (aka 3 tag knot) and didn’t have one knot failure all year.  I guess I’ll stick with that at least another season...

[Preytorien]

20 hours ago, WRB said:

With FC and Mono/copolymer line I use the San Diego jam knot using the jig weight to assist in tieing the knot. 

Tom

I'm with Tom on this one. Additionally I've not noticed any other knots preventing any slop buildup on the knot itself, which is a frequent problem in my waters. Palomar, SDJ, or any others.....all still come back with crud on them.

[Oklahoma Mike]

2 hours ago, ChrisD46 said:

Doesn't a Palomar Knot cut into itself thus being a poor choice with FC line ?

It needs to be tied correctly (i.e. not crossed over itself) and lubricated when tightened. If done correctly it is one of the most reliable knots for the application.

[J Francho]

Myth alert: I've given up on lubricating knots, instead just slowly cinching them tight.  The knots I use are improved clinch, uni, and Palomar.  I can't say that it's to a point of being good advice, just that it hasn't mattered for knot strength.  I don't think the issue is line burn.  I think some knots need lube to be stronger, and some don't.  Something to think about when tying.