GReb Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I use Abrazx, Invisx and McCoys. No more braid for me. Like mentioned above, if there’s an inch of slack in your line you won’t feel a thing using braid. FC and mono has much more sensitivity in slack line 2 Quote
Tizi Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 10 to 14 lb invisx depending on the cover. Quote
live4ever Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 To me it comes down to preference, but that is not directly correlated to the line. What I mean is that my line choice comes down to the rod itself. I like a fairly stiff rod for texas rigs and jigs, therefore I normally use flurocarbon. I use Braid when punching regardless of rod. Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted January 28, 2020 Super User Posted January 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Russ E said: I may be the odd man out here, but texas rigs and jigs are the 2 lures I use straight flourocarbon. It has nothing to do with line visibility or sinking rate. the reason I use flourocarbon is the semi slack line sensitivity. Often times when a jig or worm is falling the line is not tight. braid has great sensitivity on a tight line. I can't feel bites on a semi slack line with braid.. Not all fluorocarbon lines are equal. from my own experience, Tatsu, shooter,sniper, and assasin seems the most sensitive. Yup. Same here. I use 16 lb Sunline Sniper and love it. David Dudley recently did a demonstration on braid vs fluoro on slack line. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted January 28, 2020 Super User Posted January 28, 2020 I prefer yozuri 15lb hybrid myself. I used to use braid, 40lb but made the switch last year and I seem to have a better hookup percentage. not sure if the no stretch was pulling the baits out or what but I didn't lose many fish at all this past year. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said: Yup. Same here. I use 16 lb Sunline Sniper and love it. David Dudley recently did a demonstration on braid vs fluoro on slack line. That's what I just rigged my new flippin' setup with, 16lbs Sniper. What reel do you use? Quote
TBAG Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, flyfisher said: I prefer yozuri 15lb hybrid myself. I used to use braid, 40lb but made the switch last year and I seem to have a better hookup percentage. not sure if the no stretch was pulling the baits out or what but I didn't lose many fish at all this past year. I think I'm going to switch from braid to something else this season too. How does the 15lb YZ hybrid handle and how is the memory? Do you use line conditioner. I've only used the 6lb on some spinning reels. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted January 28, 2020 Super User Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, TBAG said: I think I'm going to switch from braid to something else this season too. How does the 15lb YZ hybrid handle and how is the memory? Do you use line conditioner. I've only used the 6lb on some spinning reels. Handles very well and I use KVD line conditioner. No issues at all. Super strong stuff too. 1 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted January 28, 2020 Super User Posted January 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's what I just rigged my new flippin' setup with, 16lbs Sniper. What reel do you use? Curado K (7.4:1) on my main t-rig rod and my jig rod and the previous Curado model (Curado I in 7.2:1) on a different t-rig rod. I usually spray a little KVD line conditioner on the spools the night before. Tho it's not always necessary, especially if you're doing close distance pitching/flipping. Quote
garroyo130 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Does heavier fluorocarbon transmit vibration better than thinner line? I wonder how big an impact line diameter has in its ability to transmit vibration. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 30, 2020 Super User Posted January 30, 2020 Line doesn't transmit vibrations underwater, it can move and you feel the movements not vibrations. Smaller diameter line has less coefficient of drag moving through water them larger diameter and takes less force to move smaller diameter line vs larger. I use the smallest diameter line that the cover or structure where the bass are located will allow me to set the hook effectively and control the bass. Where I fish jigs and T-rigged w/sliding bullet weight that is 10 lb to 14 lb FC or mono. I only fish braid without a leader and in very heavy cover. Tom 3 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted January 30, 2020 Super User Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 8:32 PM, MN Fisher said: My T-Rig/Jig rig will have 30# Power Pro on it. +1 ... You could add a 3' to 4' leader of #12 lb. P-Line C-XX co-poly (green) if you feel the need for abrasion resistance. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 30, 2020 Super User Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ChrisD46 said: +1 ... You could add a 3' to 4' leader of #12 lb. P-Line C-XX co-poly (green) if you feel the need for abrasion resistance. I could - but I don't do leaders. 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted January 30, 2020 Super User Posted January 30, 2020 I would use fluoro from like 12-18lb, depending on which brand and how “MH” the rod is. I am not a braid fan and only use it when I have satisfied myself that nothing else will work. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 30, 2020 Super User Posted January 30, 2020 I have read post on this site for over a decade now and it amazes me how bass anglers think they need line that can control fish 2X bigger then they will ever catch. When you consider the average legal size bass is between 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 lbs and that makes up 90% of the bass caught. Why does any bass angler need to use line over 15 lb test? The only reason I use heavier test line is in very heavy cover to get my lure or a bass out of snags. The only bass angler on this site has caught a bass over 15 lbs is me and I don't use line Over 15 lb test 99% of the time. You will enjoy your casting more accurately and catching more bass by using line 15 lb test or lighter. 15 lb test is 5 times stronger then your average size bass weighs. Tom 7 Quote
Jermination Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 4 hours ago, WRB said: I have read post on this site for over a decade now and it amazes me how bass anglers think they need line that can control fish 2X bigger then they will ever catch. When you consider the average legal size bass is between 1 1/2 to 3 1/2 lbs and that makes up 90% of the bass caught. Why does any bass angler need to use line over 15 lb test? The only reason I use heavier test line is in very heavy cover to get my lure or a bass out of snags. The only bass angler on this site has caught a bass over 15 lbs is me and I don't use line Over 15 lb test 99% of the time. You will enjoy your casting more accurately and catching more bass by using line 15 lb test or lighter. 15 lb test is 5 times stronger then your average size bass weighs. Tom 15 is the heaviest i use year round. The only exception being 7in+ swimbait, alabama rig, or a frog on chik grass. I throw the A-rig on 20 lb mono, given i've never had a fish break one off but i throw those select baits on heavier line for my pockets safety's sake Quote
NittyGrittyBoy Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 @WRB - in defence for the braid/heavier line crowd, was your bass over 15, caught in open water or around structure? For those who fish structure, (when I say structure in my mind I'm thinking river current, log jams, stumps, root balls) wouldn't you at least recommend braid? Fishing where I do bass head straight for the closet log they can find. If it's a big lake, sure turn down the drag and let em run Quote
garroyo130 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 6 hours ago, WRB said: I have read post on this site for over a decade now and it amazes me how bass anglers think they need line that can control fish 2X bigger then they will ever catch. If youre referring to braid lb test, heavier lb test sometimes is just easier to manage on baitcasting gear 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 31, 2020 Super User Posted January 31, 2020 I use 25 lb to 30 lb mono/copolymer line for big swimbaits so the 4 to 7 oz lures don't break off during a backlash, not to control the bass. Sure bass try to get into cover when fighting it's their escape route but you should be able control the biggest bass with 12 lb line using proper tackle and technique. I am not fishing in a swimming pool without structure, trees, brush etc that bass try to get into and rarely loose DD bass due to the size of my line. Bass anglers are indoctrinated to believe they need far heavier tackle then needed. I am passing this on because my mentor was Jason Lucas a highly skilled light line bass angler who recommended catching bass using appropriate tackle to enjoy the fight and develope skills to control the fish. After 6 decades of catching bass my enjoyment was enhanced by following Jay's advice. Tom 1 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 31, 2020 Super User Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said: @WRB - in defence for the braid/heavier line crowd, was your bass over 15, caught in open water or around structure? For those who fish structure, (when I say structure in my mind I'm thinking river current, log jams, stumps, root balls) wouldn't you at least recommend braid? Fishing where I do bass head straight for the closet log they can find. If it's a big lake, sure turn down the drag and let em run Everything except the river current you mentioned that is wood is cover to me. Tom Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 31, 2020 Super User Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, NittyGrittyBoy said: For those who fish structure, (when I say structure in my mind I'm thinking river current, log jams, stumps, root balls) wouldn't you at least recommend braid? Structure is the contour of the bottom. What you're describing is cover, well minus the current. I've caught 35 double digit bass up to 12.5 lbs all on 15# Berkley Big Game & all in grass, brush, & timber. This 11 lb. 3 oz was caught in nearly matted grass. 3 2 Quote
jbrew73 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Bragging about using below average size line to catch above average size bass is like bragging about having unprotected sex. I’ve been lucky too but it ain’t something to crow about. 1 Quote
garroyo130 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, jbrew73 said: Bragging about using below average size line to catch above average size bass is like bragging about having unprotected sex. I’ve been lucky too but it ain’t something to crow about. Honestly ... Id take that bass over sex in a heartbeat 1 Quote
johnD. Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 When I'm dragging a worm or senko for double digit fish , it's with P-Line CXX 15#. That line is no joke. Keep it sprayed down with kvd or reel magic if you're worried about memory. Quote
garroyo130 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 I never could get on board with the P-Line. Used it for a while and it performed fine but once i went Yo Zuri i never looked back. I will say though the newer spools arent quite the same as the older formulation. It may be something else but Ive noticed the older spools that I have are colored (smoke, green, pink) and perform much better IMO than the clear stuff I buy off amazon. Quote
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