Bleeding Fish!!

[Woody B]

Since we've decided that soda is bad for bass I thought I'd mention, soda is bad for people too.   

[N Florida Mike]

1 hour ago, Woody B said:

Since we've decided that soda is bad for bass I thought I'd mention, soda is bad for people too.   

Yeah. Ive used coke to  clean off battery acid. Just think what that does to your insides…

I keep bleeding fish for a while. If they live, they can be released. 

If they die , they are eaten…with no regret, I do hate it when bigger bass  die, but that very rarely happens …

I don’t think I’d ever eat a carp though…?

[Jonny15678]

Depends on where they get hooked and also the water clots small scrapes and cuts.

[gim]

1 hour ago, N Florida Mike said:

Just think what that does to your insides…

Probably could be said about a lot of items we consume on a regular basis.  And yet, we continue to do it.  That's what they want too.

[J Francho]

19 minutes ago, gimruis said:

That's what they want too.

[TnRiver46]

1 hour ago, N Florida Mike said:

Yeah. Ive used coke to  clean off battery acid. Just think what that does to your insides…

 

Hopefully it cleans the battery acid out of my insides 

[J Francho]

15 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Hopefully it cleans the battery acid out of my insides 

Straight gasoline works!

[Bird]

Remember my Dad many years ago dumping coke all over his windshield claiming it removes tree sap.

I can also see it removing a fishes slime coat.

 

This thread is the first I've seen where a product is offered to " fix a fish on the fly " , interesting.

 

If I know a fish isn't going to make it, usually gill damage, the best I can do is eat it.

[TnRiver46]

11 minutes ago, Bird said:

Remember my Dad many years ago dumping coke all over his windshield claiming it removes tree sap.

I can also see it removing a fishes slime coat.

 

This thread is the first I've seen where a product is offered to " fix a fish on the fly " , interesting.

 

If I know a fish isn't going to make it, usually gill damage, the best I can do is eat it.

Problem is when they are bleeding and under the legal limit, can’t eat that one. And everywhere I fish the smallmouth limit is 18” or more, I’ve had to release some dead ones 

[Bird]

3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Problem is when they are bleeding and under the legal limit, can’t eat that one. And everywhere I fish the smallmouth limit is 18” or more, I’ve had to release some dead ones 

I take the fish anyway if they are dieing, just seems right to me, my taste buds are more important than a snapping turtle ?

Haven't seen DNR around here in 20 years.

[TnRiver46]

Just now, Bird said:

I take the fish anyway if they are dieing, just seems right to me, my taste buds are more important than a snapping turtle ?

Haven't seen DNR around here in 20 years.

They check me constantly 

[Darth-Baiter]

a carp is a tough fish.  freakishly tough.  

[ScottW]

On 1/28/2020 at 9:12 AM, J Francho said:

Interesting info:

 

https://www.bigindianabass.com/big_indiana_bass/doing-the-dew-to-your-bass.html

 

https://www.bigindianabass.com/big_indiana_bass/2018/03/bleeding-bass-and-soda-an-update.html

I keep getting redirects on both those urls to spam/phishing sites with a crap ton of popups. 

Edited November 29, 2022 by ScottW
Typos~R~Us

[J Francho]

Try internet way back machine

[AlabamaSpothunter]

A fishing mentor of mine, Dalton Bobo lost the Bassmaster Classic because of a dead fish penalty.   He would have won by 2ozs IIrc if not for the dead fish.     $100k gone, and the most prestigious crown in fishing gone.   I couldn't imagine the heart break.     He's such a humble and nice man too.  

 

Wonder if this is the biggest tourney loss because of a dead fish penalty, I bet it might be.   With the money involved now in Bass tourneys, surely it will lead to advancements in fish health products.   Not everyone has a livewell, a topical spray would be dynamite for shore, kayak, or Jon type boat anglers.  

[ScottW]

4 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Try internet way back machine

Good idea! Should have thought of that but seriously lacking in the caffeine department at the moment. ?

[N Florida Mike]

1 hour ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

A fishing mentor of mine, Dalton Bobo lost the Bassmaster Classic because of a dead fish penalty.   He would have won by 2ozs IIrc if not for the dead fish.     $100k gone, and the most prestigious crown in fishing gone.   I couldn't imagine the heart break.     He's such a humble and nice man too.  

 

Wonder if this is the biggest tourney loss because of a dead fish penalty, I bet it might be.   With the money involved now in Bass tourneys, surely it will lead to advancements in fish health products.   Not everyone has a livewell, a topical spray would be dynamite for shore, kayak, or Jon type boat anglers.  

What was his second place pay out ?

[AlabamaSpothunter]

9 minutes ago, N Florida Mike said:

What was his second place pay out ?

IIrc it was low 30K amount.    Bassmaster Classic Rewind – 1997 | Advanced Angler::Bass Fishing News::Bassmaster::Major League Fishing

[gim]

3 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

Problem is when they are bleeding and under the legal limit, can’t eat that one. And everywhere I fish the smallmouth limit is 18” or more, I’ve had to release some dead ones 

When I worked for the MN DNR as an intern way back in 2005, I witnessed this several times too.  There is a very strict size keeper slot for walleye and even a bleeding or dying one that is outside of it cannot be harvested.  People would make the argument that "its going to die anyways so why can't I keep it" all the time, even though it was a pure exaggeration sometimes too.  A couple times they refused to toss it back and sure enough a call was placed to an officer who was waiting for them when we returned back to shore.  The individual was cited/fined and the dead fish was confiscated.

[TnRiver46]

31 minutes ago, gimruis said:

When I worked for the MN DNR as an intern way back in 2005, I witnessed this several times too.  There is a very strict size keeper slot for walleye and even a bleeding or dying one that is outside of it cannot be harvested.  People would make the argument that "its going to die anyways so why can't I keep it" all the time, even though it was a pure exaggeration sometimes too.  A couple times they refused to toss it back and sure enough a call was placed to an officer who was waiting for them when we returned back to shore.  The individual was cited/fined and the dead fish was confiscated.

I had a tiny largemouth swallow a crankbait whole this summer. It was toast. I put it in the water and it was just flipping on the surface slowly dying. Kind of messed up. Then a gar just grabbed it and swam off . Mother Nature is a savage with no sympathy. Humans are the only ones feeling sorry for anything. We are so disconnected from nature that we feel bad for fluffy cute creatures while eating a chicken that was mass electrocuted or decapitated next to its entire extended family without blinking. We will probably be eventually outnumbered haha

[gim]

45 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Humans are the only ones feeling sorry for anything. We are so disconnected from nature that we feel bad for fluffy cute creatures while eating a chicken that was mass electrocuted or decapitated next to its entire extended family without blinking.

Lol that might be a bit of an exaggeration.  As the dominant species on this planet, we obviously have the most responsibility for our actions...or inaction.  Comparing a small wild fish to a domesticated chicken isn't really that a good comparison.

 

Maybe we should bring back Velociraptors again and be the hunted.

 

[N Florida Mike]

8 hours ago, Bird said:

If I know a fish isn't going to make it, usually gill damage, the best I can do is eat it.

I’m that way too. My dad grew up hard and one of his sayings was “waste makes want” I really struggle with not keeping an illegal dying fish, or keeping it. Tbh , I keep more than I throw back. Not promoting breaking the law , but …the struggle is real. 

[TnRiver46]

3 hours ago, gimruis said:

Lol that might be a bit of an exaggeration.  As the dominant species on this planet, we obviously have the most responsibility for our actions...or inaction.  Comparing a small wild fish to a domesticated chicken isn't really that a good comparison.

 

Maybe we should bring back Velociraptors again and be the hunted.

 

They’re coming for ya!!!!

[N Florida Mike]

10 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

They’re coming for ya!!!!

They look tasty!!

[Kirtley Howe]

On 11/29/2022 at 1:08 AM, Glenn said:

Doug was a very interesting person. I had many a long conversation with him about so many different topics.  He was a very intelligent man.  Glad I had the privilege of knowing him.

 

I had the privilege of meeting Doug in the early 70s when I lived in Florida. He was incredibly knowledgeable, and passionate about Bass fishing, and fish in general. He spent about 2 hours of his time talking to me and sharing his knowledge and I was just a dumb "kid" that happened to run into him at a Steak n' Shake. Nice guy,