Graphite Chatterbait Rod

[jbrew73]

21 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I use a Hammer rod micro 6' 9" H/F for my bladed jigs. I've tried a bunch of different ones, and this rod is hands down the best one I've used for them. The heavy rating made me nervous at first, but by the recommendations of @smalljaw67 I gave it a shot and really glad I did. It's not a pool cue like I was afraid it would be. It has a nice tip, good backbone to drive the heavy hook into thick jaws, but soft enough to not rip hooks out.

You can really see in this video how the tip loads just enough and really telegraphs the vibration, hammers the hook home, but has a nice even bend that keeps them stuck.

 

There is something  magic in the Hammer 6’9” hvy rod.   It just has that perfect balance of tip vs backbone, it is so unique. I had a 7’ hvy and it just didn’t have the action that the 6’9” has.  

[FryDog62]

1 hour ago, jbrew73 said:

There is something  magic in the Hammer 6’9” hvy rod.   It just has that perfect balance of tip vs backbone, it is so unique. I had a 7’ hvy and it just didn’t have the action that the 6’9” has.  

How’s casting distance at 6’9” ?  If it loads well maybe its good.  And I mostly throw 3/4 oz Chatterbaits so I think would be ok for that based on its rating.  But I also want to experiment with 1.25 oz Jackhammer this season... assume I’d need to throw those on a different rod...? 

[Bluebasser86]

1 hour ago, FryDog62 said:

How’s casting distance at 6’9” ?  If it loads well maybe its good.  And I mostly throw 3/4 oz Chatterbaits so I think would be ok for that based on its rating.  But I also want to experiment with 1.25 oz Jackhammer this season... assume I’d need to throw those on a different rod...? 

I mainly use a 3/8oz, although I fish a bulky trailer that adds a lot of weight, with a 150 Tatula and 15lb test. I can cast it further than I really have any practical use for. I've fished some 1oz spinnerbaits with it also, it'll do that and they have way more resistance than a bladed jig, but I typically use a different rod with something that heavy.

[Corey T]

What reels are you looking at for this set up?

[FryDog62]

11 minutes ago, Midwest Big Bass said:

What reels are you looking at for this set up?

I use a Tatula SV 7.1:1 retrieve, with 10 lb Sufix Advance mono?

[Corey T]

7 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

I use a Tatula SV 7.1:1 retrieve, with 10 lb Sufix Advance mono?

 Nice. I’m looking at the 7’3” Ehrler Tatula Elite with the new 20 Tatula SV TW. Trying to get a little more info on the new model to see if it is worth the extra cash first. 

[Columbia Craw]

3/4 ounce chatterbait on #10 Mono ?  Did I get that right?

[FryDog62]

12 hours ago, Columbia Craw said:

3/4 ounce chatterbait on #10 Mono ?  Did I get that right?

Yep, I’ve used Sunline Sniper 12-14 pound previously for bladed jigs and it’s good line. But I wanted to experiment with Sufix Advance mono when it first came out so I looked at line diameters.  I’ve actually used both 8 and 10 lb Advance mono for Chatterbaits.  The 8 pound Advance is actually the same line diameter as 12 lb Sunline Sniper and 10 pound Advance is slightly larger than Sunline 14 lb.  Never felt out-gunned unless a toothy scud-missile sawed me off (which would happen with most any line w/o a leader!).

[A-Jay]

25 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

Yep, I’ve used Sunline Sniper 12-14 pound previously for bladed jigs and it’s good line. But I wanted to experiment with Sufix Advance mono when it first came out so I looked at line diameters.  I’ve actually used both 8 and 10 lb Advance mono for Chatterbaits.  The 8 pound Advance is actually the same line diameter as 12 lb Sunline Sniper and 10 pound Advance is slightly larger than Sunline 14 lb.  Never felt out-gunned unless a

toothy scud-missile sawed me off (which would happen with most any line w/o a leader!).

Appropriate Term Right there ~ 

Might borrow that.

A-Jay

[Pogues2300]

I used a 6'9" mojo bass mh/xfst because it was all i really had. Caught fish but really just felt too stiff. Bought the 7'2" mh/ fast expride and that felt really good. Hook sets felt better to me for chatterbaits and swim jigs. 

[txchaser]

I've convinced myself that there's a 7'4' heavy daiwa tatula elite rod that one of the pros that fishes a lot of chatterbaits uses. But maybe I'm mixing that up with Hite, who I think is using an evergreen in a similar action? Can't find it anywhere.

 

Anyway I've been thinking I want to try a H/mod (or something about like the tatula R action) because the grass where

I fish gets a little nasty and doesn't break off easily. The MH I'm fishing it on now just doesn't seem like it has the

backbone to snap it out very well. 

 

Which rod is it? Or have I lost my mind?

[Teal]

2 hours ago, txchaser said:

I've convinced myself that there's a 7'4' heavy daiwa tatula elite rod that one of the pros that fishes a lot of chatterbaits uses. But maybe I'm mixing that up with Hite, who I think is using an evergreen in a similar action? Can't find it anywhere.

 

Anyway I've been thinking I want to try a H/mod (or something about like the tatula R action) because the grass where

I fish gets a little nasty and doesn't break off easily. The MH I'm fishing it on now just doesn't seem like it has the

backbone to snap it out very well. 

 

Which rod is it? Or have I lost my mind?

Brett Ehrlers 7'4 mh crankin/bladed jig rod.  It's a glass rod too

[FryDog62]

Mid-Season Update/Review:

I ended up with the 7’2” MH iRod Stone Cold Bladed Jig rod.  It’s a Moderate-Fast and I’ve been using 10 lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid this year.  
 

It’s mid-season and I’ve been really happy with the set up.  A friend has borrowed it a couple times this year and comments how much he likes it too.  He previously has not jumped on the Chatterbait bandwagon...
 

I also bought a Dobyns 734c this Spring and picked up an ALX Toadface the previous season, both list Chatterbaits as good secondary uses.  I’d agree, all 3 mentioned above are great graphite choices for up to 3/4 oz Bladed Jigs.  The 1.25 oz Jackhammer I throw on an ALX Dragger.

 

I did throw another friends glass Chatterbait rod and although not terrible, I just can’t get used to the “numb” feeling on retrieve.  I like to feel the weeds and ensure the right amount of contact. The right co-poly/mono/fluoro line (so far YZH, Suffix Advance, Sniper) helps me on hook up % and keeping the fish pinned.  Just wouldn’t use braid on a graphite Chatterbait rod personally... 

[A-Jay]

15 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

Mid-Season Update/Review:

I ended up with the 7’2” MH iRod Stone Cold Bladed Jig rod.  It’s a Moderate-Fast and

I’ve been using 10 lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid this year.  
 

Why the 10lb line ?  

Seems on the lighter side to me for what is usually a fairly stout hook on most bladed jigs.

A-Jay

[FryDog62]

17 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Why the 10lb line ?  

Seems on the lighter side to me for what is usually a fairly stout hook on most bladed jigs.

A-Jay

I’ve typically used 14 lb Sniper for bladed jig fishing in the past.  When I decided to experiment with YZH and Sufix Advance, their 10 lb lines were same diameter as Sniper 14.  Other times I’ve gone with thicker diameter lines, the bladed jigs seem to “float up” more upon retrieve.  I honestly have never felt the 10 lb YZH and Advance were too light.  I do however use a custom 2 1/4 inch steel leader to prevent most of the toothy scud-missile break-offs.  

[A-Jay]

2 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

I’ve typically used 14 lb Sniper for bladed jig fishing in the past.  When I decided to experiment with YZH and Sufix Advance, their 10 lb lines were same diameter as Sniper 14.  Other times I’ve gone with thicker diameter lines, the bladed jigs seem to “float up” more upon retrieve.  I honestly have never felt the 10 lb YZH and Advance were too light.  I do however use a custom 2 1/4 inch steel leader to prevent most of the toothy scud-missile break-offs.  

I got Ya ~ 

We use what work for us.

You know I'm all about that.

Looking forward to seeing some of your chatterbait fatties.

Stay Safe

A-Jay

[J Francho]

10# YH is like 14# in many other lines. I could see using it for blades, spinnerbaits, and the like. 

[EzyEric]

2 hours ago, J Francho said:

10# YH is like 14# in many other lines. I could see using it for blades, spinnerbaits, and the like. 

I know you guys said the tickness is the same but is the actual Pound Test/Breaking the same you think?

[FryDog62]

2 hours ago, EzyEric said:

I know you guys said the tickness is the same but is the actual Pound Test/Breaking the same you think?

I haven’t seen breaking strength tests done on Sufix Advance, but Yo-Zuri did for their Hybrid line.  They report a breaking strength of 16 lbs on their 10 lb line and 19 lbs on their 12 lb line.  I use both of those pound test YZH lines and don’t have any reason to believe they aren’t accurate.  Tough lines, and for what it’s worth I like Advance too but have found YZH to be a little better abrasion resistance and doesn’t degrade in the sun as much.  

[EzyEric]

30 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

I haven’t seen breaking strength tests done on Sufix Advance, but Yo-Zuri did for their Hybrid line.  They report a breaking strength of 16 lbs on their 10 lb line and 19 lbs on their 12 lb line.  I use both of those pound test YZH lines and don’t have any reason to believe they aren’t accurate.  Tough lines, and for what it’s worth I like Advance too but have found YZH to be a little better abrasion resistance and doesn’t degrade in the sun as much.  

Sweet. Got my first spool in the mail yesterday (12lb) going to try it as leader on all my baitcasters.

[txchaser]

16 hours ago, Teal said:

Brett Ehrlers 7'4 mh crankin/bladed jig rod.  It's a glass rod too

Ah so not a Heavy. Thank you.

[FryDog62]

On 1/27/2020 at 8:04 PM, jbrew73 said:

There is something  magic in the Hammer 6’9” hvy rod.   It just has that perfect balance of tip vs backbone, it is so unique. I had a 7’ hvy and it just didn’t have the action that the 6’9” has.  

Reviving an older post. Jbrew - do you mean specifically the Hammer 7 foot doesn’t have the same action as the 6’9” - or do you just mean 7 foot heavy rods in general don’t have the same magic?  Thx

[Blaine Donders]

My two choices are a Falcon Cara Head Turner, and a Sixgill Akylos 702M.

 

You can feel every chatter and bump, and they have some tip.

[jbrew73]

3 hours ago, FryDog62 said:

Reviving an older post. Jbrew - do you mean specifically the Hammer 7 foot doesn’t have the same action as the 6’9” - or do you just mean 7 foot heavy rods in general don’t have the same magic?  Thx

My hammer 7’ hvy did not have the same soft tip as my hammer 6’9” hvy.    Maybe it was a slight variation between those 2 rods or maybe all of them are that way.   The 7’ was a really nice rod but the tip wasn’t as soft as the 6’9”.

[FryDog62]

3 minutes ago, jbrew73 said:

My hammer 7’ hvy did not have the same soft tip as my hammer 6’9” hvy.    Maybe it was a slight variation between those 2 rods or maybe all of them are that way.   The 7’ was a really nice rod but the tip wasn’t as soft as the 6’9”.

I wondered if that might be the case... unfortunately it looks like the 6’9” has either been discontinued or everyone is out of stock.  Thx for your reply - -