Super User FryDog62 Posted January 26, 2020 Super User Posted January 26, 2020 I know most people like composite/glass bladed jig rods, but I actually prefer the sensitivity of graphite. I have a harder time feeling the weeds, cover, bottom as well with glass. But I get it that graphite needs to have the right parabolic action to work well. What graphite rods do people prefer for this in the $150-250 range? 2 Quote
jbrew73 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 The falcon expert 7’ heavy is an excellent vibrating jig rod and is very sensitive. Falcon has it on their site as mod action and TW has it shown as fast. I’d rate it somewhere in the mod fast area. 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 26, 2020 Super User Posted January 26, 2020 While I do prefer composite here, I have a St Croix LTB Sweeper Spinnerbait stick that I use to snap lippless baits out of the grass. It's MH Moderate Fast graphite blank and if I had to, I could use it for a vibrating jig . . . It's the LBC70MHMF A-Jay 1 Quote
mrpao Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 I use a 7'2 shimano mh exage and a 7'2" mh expride. Both rods are light and sensitive enough to distinguish the bottom. I prefer a more stiffer fast action because I mainly fish woody areas. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 27, 2020 Global Moderator Posted January 27, 2020 I use a Hammer rod micro 6' 9" H/F for my bladed jigs. I've tried a bunch of different ones, and this rod is hands down the best one I've used for them. The heavy rating made me nervous at first, but by the recommendations of @smalljaw67 I gave it a shot and really glad I did. It's not a pool cue like I was afraid it would be. It has a nice tip, good backbone to drive the heavy hook into thick jaws, but soft enough to not rip hooks out. You can really see in this video how the tip loads just enough and really telegraphs the vibration, hammers the hook home, but has a nice even bend that keeps them stuck. 1 Quote
Junger Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I'm using the 7'2 MH/R Zillion G2, it has enough tip to rip the bladed jig through grass when needed. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted January 27, 2020 Super User Posted January 27, 2020 I wouldn't be in the composite rod club. I like a graphite rod, mostly because it will be a little lighter and that's something that is important to me. I've tried numerous lengths/ weights/ actions over the years. Currently my favorite chatter bait rod is an older 7' Diawa LT. (light & tough). It is rated as a MH worming/jigging rod, but in my opinion it has way too much flex in the tip to be a great worm/jig rod. BUT the flex in the tip is just what I need when it comes to throwing chatter bait rods. Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted January 27, 2020 Super User Posted January 27, 2020 I tried six or eight rods before settling on a 7' MHF Aetos. There's times I wish it was a couple inches longer, like when covering vast shallow grass flats, but otherwise it is perfect. Weight and feel are key. I spend hours on end throwing chatterbaits and I wouldn't want a heavier rod. I have considered composite (Kistler FNR) but was always able to keep the monkey at bay. I just don't have any problem that a different rod might solve. I also use braid exclusively and hooking and keeping them hooked hasn't been a problem for me. Quote
Super User webertime Posted January 27, 2020 Super User Posted January 27, 2020 I switch between the Phenix Recon 804 (8' up to 1oz) and a custom build NFC 807 (8' 3/8oz - 1 1/2oz). Both are great "sub-fast" tapers, the extra length def helps with the hookset, especially when they eat/push it from behind, taking up slack on the swing. The beauty of these 2 is that I can use them for a lot of techniques, more than a composite rod could do (awesome Carolina rig rods). Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Super User Posted January 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: I use a Hammer rod micro 6' 9" H/F for my bladed jigs. I've tried a bunch of different ones, and this rod is hands down the best one I've used for them. The heavy rating made me nervous at first, but by the recommendations of @smalljaw67 I gave it a shot and really glad I did. It's not a pool cue like I was afraid it would be. It has a nice tip, good backbone to drive the heavy hook into thick jaws, but soft enough to not rip hooks out. You can really see in this video how the tip loads just enough and really telegraphs the vibration, hammers the hook home, but has a nice even bend that keeps them stuck. It does load nice, and I agree a bit counter-intuitive that a 6-9 Heavy would have enough forgiveness in the tip. Are you using a higher stretch line? That could make some of the difference too -- Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Super User Posted January 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Junger said: I'm using the 7'2 MH/R Zillion G2, it has enough tip to rip the bladed jig through grass when needed. Looks like an interesting rod too, has it been discontinued though? Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Super User Posted January 27, 2020 Curious if anyone has used this rod - graphite, regular taper for chatterbaits: Daiwa Tatula Elite Casting Rod 7'2" Med Hvy Howell Taper Line Wt. Lure Wt. Guides Handle Type Handle Length Stock Price Qty Regular 12-25lb 1/4-1 3/8oz 8+Tip Elite Cast F 14-3/4" In Stock: 3 $179.99 Or this iRod: Genesis II Casting Rod 7'2 Stone Cold Swim/Vibrating 723c - Stone Cold Swim Jig & Vibrating Jig Rod Hide Information Taper Line Wt. Lure Wt. Guides Handle Type Handle Length Stock Price Qty Moderate Fast 10-20lb 3/8-1oz 9+Tip Genesis II Cast A ***/2" In Stock: 5+ $149.99 1 Quote
Junger Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 45 minutes ago, FryDog62 said: Looks like an interesting rod too, has it been discontinued though? Yes but the one you linked below should be similar, but I don’t have that particular model. I like the TAEL reel seat over the Zillion as well. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 27, 2020 Super User Posted January 27, 2020 I wouldn't fish anything with a hook that big with anything less than a fast taper, and more like an X-fast for me. Power would be up to the weight of the bait, M or MH usually. I like 6-8 to 6-10 for chatters. Graphite. Always. 2 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Super User Posted January 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, J Francho said: I wouldn't fish anything with a hook that big with anything less than a fast taper, and more like an X-fast for me. Power would be up to the weight of the bait, M or MH usually. I like 6-8 to 6-10 for chatters. Graphite. Always. Interesting points, how well does an XF keep the fish pinned as they get near the boat? What line do you use? Thx Quote
bwjay Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 My 6'8LMHF and 6'9MHXF Helium3s have just enough bend for chatterbaits IMO. Plenty of sensitivity, super easy to tell when the lure is fouled up or when you're hitting things. If you can find one used, they're a great option, Fry! 1 Quote
NathanDLTH Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I’ll run it a couple different ways, but both with straight flourocarbon. 7’3MH/F Brent Ehrler https://tackletrap.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_2091_2418&products_id=10715 or Megabass Orochi XX Tour Versatile7’H/ModFast, either 16 or 20lb flouro. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Super User Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, NathanDLTH said: I’ll run it a couple different ways, but both with straight flourocarbon. 7’3MH/F Brent Ehrler https://tackletrap.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_2091_2418&products_id=10715 or Megabass Orochi XX Tour Versatile7’H/ModFast, either 16 or 20lb flouro. I saw the 7-3 Tatula Ehrler rod too, looks very similar to the 7-2 Tatula Howell referenced above - primary difference is the taper. Thx 2 Quote
Junger Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, FryDog62 said: I saw the 7-3 Tatula Ehrler rod too, looks very similar to the 7-2 Tatula Howell referenced above - primary difference is the taper. Thx I have the 7'3 Zillion MH/F G2 too, and I prefer the 7'2 MH/R for chatterbaits. I lost more LMB on the 7'3 when they headshook or jumped. Braid on both rods. 1 Quote
OnthePotomac Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Mine go on a 6'6" MH, Fast Tip Galyans Titanium 1/4-1 1/4, 10-25lbs (Dicks bought them years ago)with 20lb Invizx (.016) on a Curado 200E7. Quote
Tizi Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I am interested in the responses too. I’m debating the 7’4” Heavy Tatula glass chatterbait/spinnerbait rod. I currently own a Tatula XT 7’ MH glass that I use for 3/8 and 1/2 once baits. It’s fine for those, probably need to beat that monkey back! 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Super User Posted January 27, 2020 Monkey’s callin’ .... 1 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 27, 2020 Super User Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, FryDog62 said: Interesting points, how well does an XF keep the fish pinned as they get near the boat? What line do you use? Thx The same as an XF keeps a fish pinned with any other lure, be it jig, T-rig, topwater, jerkbait, spinnerbait, or other. For Chatterbaits, I use 12-15# Tatsu or Invisx. 1 1 Quote
scbassin Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 It depends on where I am fishing. If I am in tight spaces like up in the Cypress trees where I roll cast I use a Dobyns Sierra SA 683C F/H or a SA 684C F/H depending how much & type of other cover I have to contend with. If I am out on the stump fields or grass flats I use a Dobyns Champion XP DC 733C F/H or the DC 734 C F/H depending on how heavy the cover is. When it gets real heavy I switch baits & rods. Quote
GReb Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I’ve been using a Dobyns 734 for chatterbaits. Can’t remember the last time I lost a fish on that rod. 1 Quote
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