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I don't have any heavy casting outfits, and this sucker is rated from ⅜-1½, and I want something for pitching ½-¾ ounce jigs, but also want it to handle Carolina rigs with ¾-1 ounce weights.  I'm hoping it'll handle wobble head jigs as well for probing deep.

 

I can get on for 80 bucks from SO, and stick a Daiwa Tatula 100 8.1:1 on it and not go over my 180 dollar safety bonus from work.

 

I'm worried that since it's designated as a flipping, close combat oriented stick, that I won't be able to cast the aforementioned presentations.

 

Thoughts before I pull the trigger, BR?

 

Alternatively I might grab the 7'3" Heavy Fast that isn't designated for flipping and dabble into a beef stick for frogging.

 

@Hammer 4 has already advised me, but I'm nervous.

 

I don't know what to do.  :(

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I have the Aird-X Heavy/Fast which is primarily for flipping/pitching. I also use it for frogs, WPs and spooks.

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3 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

I have the Aird-X Heavy/Fast which is primarily for flipping/pitching. I also use it for frogs, WPs and spooks.

I know.  ;)

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3 minutes ago, Hook2Jaw said:

I know.  ;)

I was jut mentioning it for the 'multipurpose' part of your header. I think a H/F rod can be used for much more than just flip/pitch/punch. I'd probably consider using mine for 1/2oz or larger jigs - either football or swim - as well as other heavier lures.

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36 minutes ago, Hook2Jaw said:

I don't have any heavy casting outfits, and this sucker is rated from ⅜-1½, and I want something for pitching ½-¾ ounce jigs, but also want it to handle Carolina rigs with ¾-1 ounce weights.  I'm hoping it'll handle wobble head jigs as well for probing deep.

 

I can get on for 80 bucks from SO, and stick a Daiwa Tatula 100 8.1:1 on it and not go over my 180 dollar safety bonus from work.

 

I'm worried that since it's designated as a flipping, close combat oriented stick, that I won't be able to cast the aforementioned presentations.

 

Thoughts before I pull the trigger, BR?

 

Alternatively I might grab the 7'3" Heavy Fast that isn't designated for flipping and dabble into a beef stick for frogging.

 

@Hammer 4 has already advised me, but I'm nervous.

 

I don't know what to do.  :(

I have that rod.  It would work for what you are asking about.  I use it for flipping and pitching mostly.

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Thanks to both of you.  @MN Fisher, I was just worried the particular stick might be too much of a cue to get any distance with and really needed input from more owners.

 

@Tizi, thanks, you're the 2nd guy that thinks it'll do just fine.

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1 hour ago, Hook2Jaw said:

I don't have any heavy casting outfits, and this sucker is rated from ⅜-1½, and I want something for pitching ½-¾ ounce jigs, but also want it to handle Carolina rigs with ¾-1 ounce weights.  I'm hoping it'll handle wobble head jigs as well for probing deep.

 

I can get on for 80 bucks from SO, and stick a Daiwa Tatula 100 8.1:1 on it and not go over my 180 dollar safety bonus from work.

 

I'm worried that since it's designated as a flipping, close combat oriented stick, that I won't be able to cast the aforementioned presentations.

 

Thoughts before I pull the trigger, BR?

 

Alternatively I might grab the 7'3" Heavy Fast that isn't designated for flipping and dabble into a beef stick for frogging.

 

@Hammer 4 has already advised me, but I'm nervous.

 

I don't know what to do.  :(

i throw big football head jigs on mine. great for it. try your best to break it in half setting the hook, cant be done lol

footballheadjigsmallie.jpg

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10 minutes ago, Hook2Jaw said:

Thanks to both of you.  @MN Fisher, I was just worried the particular stick might be too much of a cue to get any distance with and really needed input from more owners.

I know the Aird isn't an XT - but being from the same manufacturer and only a few steps down (XT, Procyon, Fuego, Aird) they can't be TOO much different in use.

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2 minutes ago, Hook2Jaw said:

@Jermination, that's exactly what I needed to see.  Thanks.

i usually throw a 3/4 oz with 15 lb fluoro, i have a 13 fishing concept c on there and can sling the thing a country mile. it'll do what you want 

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1 hour ago, Hook2Jaw said:

Thanks to both of you.  @MN Fisher, I was just worried the particular stick might be too much of a cue to get any distance with and really needed input from more owners.

 

@Tizi, thanks, you're the 2nd guy that thinks it'll do just fine.

For the price at SO, you can't beat that rod.  Even at regular price of $119 it's a good deal.  The XT line is fantastic in my opinion.  I own several.

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2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

I know the Aird isn't an XT - but being from the same manufacturer and only a few steps down (XT, Procyon, Fuego, Aird) they can't be TOO much different in use.

I like the Aird-X, but I don't think the taper is comparable to the Tatula XT. I don't have a Tatula XT, but I have several variants of the Tatula OG, Tatula Elites, and Zillion G2's.

 

The Aird-X is outstanding for the money, but the 7' H/F taper is a little slower than my Tatula's in any MH/F or H/F sticks. My guess is the Aird-X uses more resins in the blank, and isn't as "crisp" as the Tatula's. That's not a bad thing though, I actually like how the Aird-X is a little slower for close quarter frogging.

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8 hours ago, Hook2Jaw said:

Alternatively I might grab the 7'3" Heavy Fast

I have several XTs and like them. I picked up the 7'3" XT for frogging but I didn't end up liking it for that purpose. Missed a ton of fish with it. It's a stiff rod. My brother lent me a spare Lew's Carbon Fire 7'3" H. $79 at Dix and usually on sale for $59. My hookup ratio went through the roof whilst frogging, and I can throw lighter frogs with it. It's stuck between a MH and a H in some ways, but it's tough and good for other purposes. I throw baits like the Beast Coast Miyagi on a weighted 6/0 Owner Beast hook with it and have had no problem setting that hook. Great hookups with the 3/4-1 oz Dark Sleeper. I'm not suggesting that you should buy the Lew's, just that I had terrible luck with the XT and frogs and much better luck elsewhere. I really like the XT for pitching heavy T-rigs and jigs, and I throw some 1 to 1 1/ 2oz single hook swimbaits with it, but that's it.

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I have the Tatula 7'1" H/F "Jig" rod, which I believe is rated for 1/4oz to 1 1/2oz. I used it last year for jigs and frogs. Since I was using it for frogs and because I couldn't easily fit it in my truck without sticking it out the window or leaving the tailgate open, I chose that over a longer rod. It's surprisingly sensitive and it absolutely launches frogs and 1/2oz+ jigs further than I ever really need to cast them, in fact further than my 6'10" MH/F launched the very same frogs despite being a stiffer rod. You could make that rod a little stiffer and it would still cast just fine, so I can't see the flipping rods casting distance being a problem (they aren't as stiff as the frog rod, which is rated to cast a smaller huddleston!). If you still are concerned, I would imagine the 7'3" Tatula XT is probably fairly close to the 7'1" H/F 2nd gen Tatula in terms of casting but should cast even further due to added length.

 

Today, I received the 7'4" Frog rod in the mail. I haven't got to use it yet, but it certainly is even beefier. It's not ideal for jigs because it is an absolute lead pipe of a rod that could pull a bullshark out of 30lbs of grass from the feel of it, but I bet you could flip a 3/4oz jig into the thickest possible cover with that if you ever had to.

 

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