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2 hours ago, waymont said:

Hi. I’m interested in this rod for lighter fishing applications. What presentations do you use it for, and what type/size line do you use with it. Thanks.

I wish I could give you some super insight about this rod. I have used it "sparingly" since I bought it. I would definetely not consider myself a finesse fisherman and I really haven't given in a lot of time on the water. I have 10 lb Sufix fluoro on it right now. I was throwing 20 lb braid before trying the fluoro. I have thrown ned rigs, shakey heads, drop shots and weightless senkos on it. I plan to really try to become a better finesse fisherman this coming summer so hopefully I can actually put the rod through it's paces. Sorry I am not much help, but I just want to be honest. Member @Efishin could give you better advice.

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If I had to bring only 5 combos, it would depend on whether I’m targeting smallies or largemouth.

Largies

6’10” MH for topwater poppers, props, walking baits

6’10 H for jigs, T rigs

7’2” MH for swim jigs, Keitech, Senkos

7’3” H for frogs, heavy cover

7’ ML for Ned, dropshot, wacky

 

For smallies I’d swap the 7’3” H casting setup with a second ML spinning outfit:

7’4” ML for grubs, Ned, drop shot

 

Of course I have duplicates and triplicates of the jig and soft plastic combos that always go with me. 

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Couldn't do it.   The last few years that I did BF as a co-angler, I took 7 or 8 rigs.  When I fish out of my own boat and I have someone else in the boat with me, I try to pare it down to a dozen more or less and that is a challenge.  I would much rather pick up a rig with a bait already tied on than stop to retie and change out to a different bait.

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Sorry I had to have 6 setups, only one rod I own over $100.00 was a new Dobyns Sierra which was brand new for $122. All of my other rods & reels were anywhere from $60-$100.00 so I like finding deals? 

I can pretty much cover any fishing situations with these 6 setups.

 

Daiwa Fuego CT 6:3:1/ Dobyns Fury 705CB

Daiwa Fuego CT 6:3:1/ Lamiglas XP Bass 704

Daiwa Tatula CT 7:3:1/ Dobyns Sierra 703C

Daiwa Fuego CT 7:3:1/ Dobyns Sierra 734C

Daiwa Fuego CT 7:3:1/ Falcon BuCoo SR BRC-717

Daiwa Fuego LT Spinning 6:2:1/ Daiwa Tatula TTU721MHFS

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I am actually running 7 right now

 

Casting rods:

7'1" Daiwa Tatula H/F - frogs and jigs

7'1" Daiwa Tatula MH/XF - ordered this year as an alternate to mh 6'10" MH/F for better casting distance and hooksetting power for jigs, spinnerbaits and chatterbaits

6'10" Daiwa Tatula MH/F - this is my soft plastic rod. The older model with a split grip which is a preference for fishing soft plastics for finicky fish.

7'2" Daiwa Tatula MH/R Glass - Spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, squarebills around grass and deep divers

7' Daiwa Tatula M/R Glass - crankbaits, jerkbaits

6'8' St. Croix Mojo Bass M/XF - topwater, jerkbaits, weightless soft plastics

 

Spinning rods:

6'9" St. Croix Avid X ML/XF spinning

 

Casting Reels:

Daiwa Tatula CT 7.1:1 - Paired exclusively with the heavy rod - 65lb braid for frogs and jigs in thick cover.

Daiwa Tatula SV 7.1:1 - Paired with any of the MH rods, 17lb flurocarbon, jigs, softplastics, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits

Daiwa Tatula SV 6.3:1 - Paired with any of the MH rods, 15lb flurocarbon, soft plastics, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits

Daiwa Tatula SV 6.3:1 - Paired with the M/R glass rod - 12lb flurocarbon, crankbaits jerkbaits (will likely use 10lb fluorocarbon this year however)

Pflueger Patriarch 7.1?:1 - Paired with the M/XF rod - 12lb mono - topwater, jerkbaits

 

Spinning reels:

Daiwa BG 2500 with 12lb braid and usually a 6lb flurocarbon leader.

 

If I had to cut out two, I would drop the 7'1" MH/XF rod and the 7'2" MH/R glass rod, the latter would be a real sad day because if I only want to carry two or three rods, the MH/R glass rod makes a great all around moving bait stick.

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I believe in a 6 rod and reel system, especially if you're not fishing from a boat.

 

The staples for me are:

 

M/F Spinning

2500 Reel

 

M/F Casting

6 Speed Reel

 

MH/F Casting

6 Speed Reel

 

A M powered spinning rod can handle all of your finesse fishing needs, although not always being optimal, but serviceable, for Ned Rigs and dropshots.

 

A M powered casting rod can handle everything from squarebills and lipless crankbaits, to Senkos, to finesse jigs, to lighter spinnerbaits, as well as poppers and more.

 

A MH powered casting rod can handle Texas Rigs, jigs, chatterbaits, small swimbaits, spinnerbaits with trailers, some larger topwaters and more.

 

A 6 speed reel, somewhere from 26-29 IPT is very versatile.

 

Next is specialty in my mind:

 

ML/F Spinning

2500 Reel

 

M/MF or MH/MF

5 or 6 Speed Reel

 

H/F

7 or 8 Speed Reel

 

The ML powered spinning rod optimizes things like the Ned Rig and dropshot.

 

The Moderate Fast casting rod is a crankbait rod. Power and reel speed is determined by what types of crankbaits you will throw and where.

 

The H powered rod is your pitching, flipping, frogging stick. You can go 7 speed for more torque or 8 speed for more line pick up.

 

After the staples, pick 2 of the 3 speciality setups depending on your needs for your trip. Or just up the number to 6. ;)

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Most of the time I only carry 1 to 3 rods with me and that is usually enough. Lure selection is based on several factors such as where I am fishing and what I am fishing for. For example I enjoy fishing with topwaters so I tend to bring at least 1 topwater rod on most of my bass fishing trips.

Posted
19 hours ago, Boomstick said:

I am actually running 7 right now

 

Casting rods:

7'1" Daiwa Tatula MH/XF - ordered this year as an alternate to mh 6'10" MH/F for better casting distance and hooksetting power for jigs, spinnerbaits and chatterbaits

 

How do you like the 7'1" MHxF?  I have the 6'10" MH and really like it.  Does 3 inches and a faster tip make that much difference?

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As a bonafide minimalist I only own five:

 

7' ml/xf gloomis pr8400s spinning

For dropshotting and jerkbaits.

 

7' md/xf gloomis nrx 852s spinning

For senkos weightless or mojo rigged.

 

7' mh/mod-fast dobyns fury 705cb casting

For squarebills and topwaters

 

6'8" hvy/fast - gloomis nrx 804c casting

For 1/4-3/8 oz jigs and swimjigs.

 

7'11" hvy/mod-fast - st croix lxc711hmf casting

Carolina rigs, big jigs, small swimbaits.

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On 12/14/2019 at 8:39 PM, FryDog62 said:

-NRX 852 MXF/Steez SV TW for Wacky/Ned

 

-Tatula Elite 7-0 M-MH/Tat SV TW for Caffeine Shad

 

- Phenix Feather MH XF 7-1/Daiwa Alpha SV for Neko/tubes

 

-Zolo Toadface 7-2 MH-H/Tat SV TW for Chatterbaits/Frogs

 

-Dobyns 746 Champ/ Lew’s Super Duty for Flippin

 

how do you typical fish the caffeine shad? i have two packs sitting around that i was going to throw for a chatterbait trailer but never did. 

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12 hours ago, EWREX said:

how do you typical fish the caffeine shad? i have two packs sitting around that i was going to throw for a chatterbait trailer but never did. 

Only one way to fish it in my opinion or you lose the unique action of the bubble tail:

 

•5 inch Caffeine Shad

•Owner 3/32 oz Twistlock Light hook which allows it to stay horizontal

•Cast, let it sink, swim, dying action.  It will slow, tail will flutter slightly, change directions and swim again.

•If no strike, give it 2-3 twitches and let it swim/flutter/die again.

•If you can skip it under docks or along weed lines it is extremely effective with this technique.

 

Can also fish it faster and cover water like a traditional Jerkbait. Twitch 2-3 times, pause... rinse/repeat.  It is fairly weedless vs. the treble hooks on a jerkbait. 

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This is probably what I would take.

 

My general purpose casting combos for jigs, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, buzzbaits, weighted T-rigs, Whopper Plopper and mid sized soft plastic swimbaits:

  • G. Loomis IMX Pro 7’2” MH/XF – Shimano Bantam XG
  • G. Loomis Conquest 7’6” MH/F – Shimano Metanium XG

 

General purpose spinning combos for Ned rigs, weightless plastics, drop shot, shakey head and small soft plastic swimbaits:

  • G. Loomis NRX 6’10” M/XF – Shimano Stradic Ci4+ 1000
  • G. Loomis Conquest 7’6” M/F – Shimano Stradic Ci4+ 1000

 

Then I would pick one of these casting combos for the fifth depending on the time of year or lake I was planning to go to:

  • Shimano Zodias 6’10” M/F – Shimano Curado 70 XG - Soft and hard jerkbaits
  • St Croix Avid-X 7’ MH/MF – Shimano Curado DC HG - Squarebills and lipless cranks 
  • St Croix Mojo Bass 7’4” H/F – Shimano Curado DC XG - Frogs and swimjigs

 

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I remember the days when I could easily go out with 2 rods and feel I had the world by the short hairs.  Now I have a hard time whittling it down to 5 in my yak.

 

I usually end up taking 4 casting, 1 spinning.

Casting rods:

7'6"-7'9" - H

7'2"- MH

7'- M

6'9"- M

 

Spinning rod:

7' -ML

 

The brands are minor detail and more so user preference.  I wouldn't get hung up on the brand and use what you feel is best.

 

As far as my list goes, the only thing I would swap out would be one of the rods for an XH if I am fishing with big swimbaits or some other technique specific bait.

 

 

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The 4-6 rods I take are different depending on the water I plan to fish.  One day might be 4 drop shot setups and a jigging spoon rig.  Another trip might be five flipping sticks with different baits.  Another lake might be a spinnerbait, topwater, 2 jig 'n worm rods, and a general purpose spinner.  Other times, I bring a new rod I want to review or try out.  Short answer: it depends.

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43 minutes ago, J Francho said:

The 4-6 rods I take are different depending on the water I plan to fish.  One day might be 4 drop shot setups and a jigging spoon rig.  Another trip might be five flipping sticks with different baits.  Another lake might be a spinnerbait, topwater, 2 jig 'n worm rods, and a general purpose spinner.  Other times, I bring a new rod I want to review or try out.  Short answer: it depends.

I envy you.  I've never been able to keep a short answer to two words.  :rofl_red:

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17 hours ago, Tizi said:

How do you like the 7'1" MHxF?  I have the 6'10" MH and really like it.  Does 3 inches and a faster tip make that much difference?

I just got it for Black Friday so I haven't got to use it yet. I actually thought I ordered a MH/F rod, but the XF version came. I checked my order and TW doesn't even sell the fast rod and I ordered the XF. I debated sending it back, but it should do nicely for what I plan to use it for.

 

As far as the tip, it does not feel all that much different than my 6'10" MH/F rod. It actually feels similar to my son's Dobyns Sierra 704C which is a H/F (comprable to Daiwa's MH).

 

As for the extra three inches, it's nice when fighting a fish for extra hooksetting power and it definitely helps with casting distance. On the 6'10", I can't throw a spinnerbait as far as I can on my kids 7' and 7'1" MH/F rods for example. I can even throw a 2 1/4" live target frog on my 7'1" H/F rod on 65lb braid significantly further than I throw a 1/2oz spinnerbait on my 6'10" with 12lb mono. That said, the 6'10" is the prior gen with the split grip and I love the split grip when fishing soft plastics and sometimes jigs slowly across the bottom because I can palm balance it, and the slightest bite will usually cause the rod to turn tip down should I get distracted with something else.

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6 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

I just got it for Black Friday so I haven't got to use it yet. I actually thought I ordered a MH/F rod, but the XF version came. I checked my order and TW doesn't even sell the fast rod and I ordered the XF. I debated sending it back, but it should do nicely for what I plan to use it for.

 

As far as the tip, it does not feel all that much different than my 6'10" MH/F rod. It actually feels similar to my son's Dobyns Sierra 704C which is a H/F (comprable to Daiwa's MH).

 

As for the extra three inches, it's nice when fighting a fish for extra hooksetting power and it definitely helps with casting distance. On the 6'10", I can't throw a spinnerbait as far as I can on my kids 7' and 7'1" MH/F rods for example. I can even throw a 2 1/4" live target frog on my 7'1" H/F rod further than I throw a 1/2oz spinnerbait on my 6'10". That said, the 6'10" is the prior gen with the split grip and while I like the cork handles for moving baits and when fighting large fish, I plan on keeping the 6'10" because I can palm balance the split grip when letting it drag soft plastics along the bottom.

I own the Fury 704C, seems like that rod is similar to the Tatula 7’1” MHxF.  I love my Tatula rods, that’s why I was thinking about getting the 7’1”.   Thanks for the reply!

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5 hours ago, Tizi said:

I own the Fury 704C, seems like that rod is similar to the Tatula 7’1” MHxF.  I love my Tatula rods, that’s why I was thinking about getting the 7’1”.   Thanks for the reply!

Strange thing about the Fury and many Dobyns rods. Some people swear their F action is MF and some people swear it's XF.

 

I'm in the MF camp.

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5 hours ago, Glaucus said:

Strange thing about the Fury and many Dobyns rods. Some people swear their F action is MF and some people swear it's XF.

 

I'm in the MF camp.

I have usually seen MF from most people, but based solely on the Sierra 704C, I am in the F camp, maybe a little bit on the XF side but I wouldn't call it a XF at least from my experience with XF rods which I will admit not being the type to use a XF tip on a rod above a medium power, is not the best judge of XF tips on heavier rods. Some Fury 704C rods at a local Dick's did not seem to have as much tip as my son's Sierra either so I could put them on the mod.. fast side of fast.

 

I must say though I like that Sierra though, I bought it for him for soft plastics and lighter jigs and the tip on that handles up to 1/2oz jigs well!

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On 12/15/2019 at 8:55 AM, AC870 said:

I’d like to add a 7-3 Hammer Heavy or something comparable in that size (Hammer heavy fishes like a medium hesvy.) anything comparable for $100 or less? 

Dobyns 734C is a very versatile rod.  I throw weightless senkos, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and blades jigs on it.

 

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On 12/17/2019 at 4:52 PM, Glaucus said:

Strange thing about the Fury and many Dobyns rods. Some people swear their F action is MF and some people swear it's XF.

 

I'm in the MF camp.

So I got my oldest son a Sierra 703C and wrapped that last night. Before wrapping it, I put it through the ringer and while I would say the 704C is a straight up fast rod, the 703C is definitely more towards the moderate fast side, although should have enough tip to fish weightless soft plastics.

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Impossible question. I usually do bring 5 or 6 set ups, but which 5 or 6 depends on what I am fishing for, where when and how.

 

Crappie, hybrid stripers and white bass during the 1st shad spawn? Walleye in March down river from the dam?

Crappie spawn, Trolling Stripers at 60 ft with Dipsy Divers?, Bottom Bouncing for Walleye?, Trolling White bass and Crappie across the flats in July? Maybe Fishing the Flat Head Catfish spawn in the spring. Vertical jigging for Stripers and Walleye in the summer? So many ways to fish and so many different fish to fish for.

 

Maybe if I was just fishing for LMB I could have a 5 rig set up, but the way it is for me I have around 30 rigs and I use them all for one thing or another..I could list my 5 favorite combos maybe, but that would be an answer to a different question I think..

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On 12/17/2019 at 4:52 PM, Glaucus said:

Strange thing about the Fury and many Dobyns rods. Some people swear their F action is MF and some people swear it's XF.

 

I'm in the MF camp.

It varies between the lineups. There is a video of Gary Dobyns describing the differences between the fast actions in all the lineups. From what I remember the Fury Fast is closest to fast/XF, the Sierra fast is on the ModFast side. 

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