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I have a strong aversion to putting line or my dirty fingers in or near my mouth when fishing, but I want to lube my knots when I tie on or splice. Would a light smear of Chapstick cause the knot to slip? I have heard of fly fishermen doing this. I have not tried it yet.

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Yes it works great. Just buy a tube dedicated to knots not lips. 

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Works great I use it for saltwater applications all of the time , where it's hard to cinch down 80lb/100lb leader.

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I've been wetting knots with my saliva for the past 50 years with no ill effects. Cheap too. :)

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Fishing line has been designed with your saliva in mind.  Spitting it reduces the consistency -- the only way to make sure your line of choice does not burn is to swish your splish through your teeth until it's of foamy consistency and then threading the line between your lips.

 

The fish gods smile on those who ***** their face flesh with trebles before cinching.

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Chapsitck, can't say I have ever heard of using It for knot tying, fly rod ferrules lubricant yes.

Tom

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20 minutes ago, WRB said:

Chapsitck, can't say I have ever heard of using It for knot tying, fly rod ferrules lubricant yes.

Tom

Considering that Chapstick® contains a couple types of wax, lanolin and mineral oil - it's definitely more suited for lubrication that stays around. I'd be concerned that it'd stay around long enough for the knot to slip.

 

In order

Spit

KVD L&L conditioner

Water

 

Those are what I'd use.

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Saliva or small water bottle would get it done - KVD line conditioner if you don't mind the $$ over saliva or water .

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You want to hear something crazy?  I don't wet my line when cinching knots all the time.  Carefully cinched, it makes no difference, in my experience.  Beginning to think it's a myth.

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43 minutes ago, J Francho said:

You want to hear something crazy?  I don't wet my line when cinching knots all the time.  Carefully cinched, it makes no difference, in my experience.  Beginning to think it's a myth.

Same here - never with a Palomar, and about half the time with everything else. There’s data out there suggesting saliva can actually make knots weaker in some instances. Use an actual lubricant or don’t use anything at all ?

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48 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

There’s data out there suggesting saliva can actually make knots weaker in some instances.

Any clue as to what kinds of lines?

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2 hours ago, J Francho said:

You want to hear something crazy?  I don't wet my line when cinching knots all the time.  Carefully cinched, it makes no difference, in my experience.  Beginning to think it's a myth.

I sometimes think that being dry makes it slip better "smoother and easier" on FC and cinched slowly. Mono I use spit.

FM

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1 hour ago, J Francho said:

Any clue as to what kinds of lines?

I’ll try and track down specifics, but the knot tests were done on both nylons and fluoros, and what they found was with certain knots, saliva alone didn’t allow the knot to completely cinch tight, so the knot would slip/heat/weaken and break when it was loaded to breaking in the tests. Using an actual lubricant like silicone or wax (lip balm) allowed for complete seating and stronger knots. 

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It's not officially Winter but we might have our first Winter thread.?

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