The Pond King Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Hi guys, I’m thinking about picking up my first MegaBass rod. I want to get a MegaBass Super Orochi XXX F5-68K. I’ve researched the living crap out of it. However, there really isn’t much information about this rod, so I’m going to have to ask the enthusiasts on this board. I have been getting into collecting high-end jerkbaits like Lucky Craft Pointers, Duo Realis Jackall, and the coveted MegaBass Vision 110. However, I have a “need” to start getting into deep diving jerkbaits and larger sized jerkbaits such as the MegaBass Vision 110 Magnum, MegaBass Vision 110+1 and +2, LuckyCraft StaySee, LuckyCraft Point 128SP, etc. I also want to throw 1oz topwater pencil stickbaits like the LuckyCraft Sammy 128 on this rod. I’ve heard that this rod is versatile, and it can be used for any moving baits including spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and crankbaits as well. Here are my questions: This rod’s specifications are 6’ 8” Medium-Heavy power with a “Regular” action. What does “Regular” action mean? Does that mean Moderate? How is the rods power? For example, is it really stiff like a St. Croix Medium Heavy which is actually closer to a true Heavy or is it like a true Medium Heavy 3 power G. Loomis or does it have a tip of 2 power G. Loomis but has a backbone of a 4 power. I don’t want an overly stiff broomstick of a rod but understand that that sometimes a stiff heavy power rod is necessary and ideal for fishing heavy cover or working heavier and or higher resistance baits. The reason I don’t like stiff heavy powered rods anymore is because I am a recreational fisherman. I like the rod to bend because it makes it so much for fun when fighting a fish. Moreover, how is the sensitivity? Also, can this rod double up and fish lighter jerkbaits like the original MegaBass Vision 110 and even smaller jerkbaits like 3/8oz sizes such as the LuckyCraft Pointer 78? Can this rod handle a weight slightly over the recommended specs of 3/8-1oz? For example, can it throw a Whopper Plopper 130 that weighs 1 and 3/8ths of an ounce without a problem? I just can’t do the MegaBass Destroyer F4.5-611X ONETEN SPECIAL because for one, it’s almost 7’. That is too long for a jerkbait in my opinion; at least, for my preference. Even the F5-68K is pushing it at 6’ 8”. Secondly, I’m not trying to drop $400+ on a Destroyer when I already went crazy bezerk buying $1000 worth of gear and tackle this past Black Friday. Instead of the MegaBass Destroyer F4.5-611X ONETEN SPECIAL, I’m going to purchase a G. Loomis Classic 6’ Medium Fast CR722 IMX to handle my lighter jerkbait needs and prefer the shorter 6’ length for jerkbaiting. It makes sense to me to have a shorter rod for jerkbaiting because you have to jerk the rod tip down and I don’t want to have to worry about the rod tip hitting any obstructions. Quote
NathanDLTH Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 I would recommend talking to Gary over at Tackle Trap-email works great for getting a hold of him. Generally-I’d say you’d want a 4power Megabass rod for jerkbaits cause those trebles are not as beefy like on a crankbait. If you’re set on this rod, the regular action will help aid in hook-ups to land ratio, I think it goes without saying, flouro is your friend here. I do think there is probably a better rod out there for your situation. Take a good look at the link. Tackle Trap is great at putting up info. https://tackletrap.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=10653 Also I will say, the XXX Orochi JDM rods are not as sensitive as the XX USDM Orochi rods are. So if you go with this, you’ll have to watch the line closely. This is probably a better rod suited for your needs. https://tackletrap.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1066_2409_2410&products_id=10650 Quote
FrogMann Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 8 hours ago, The Pond King said: Hi guys, I’m thinking about picking up my first MegaBass rod. I want to get a MegaBass Super Orochi XXX F5-68K. I’ve researched the living crap out of it. However, there really isn’t much information about this rod, so I’m going to have to ask the enthusiasts on this board. I have been getting into collecting high-end jerkbaits like Lucky Craft Pointers, Duo Realis Jackall, and the coveted MegaBass Vision 110. However, I have a “need” to start getting into deep diving jerkbaits and larger sized jerkbaits such as the MegaBass Vision 110 Magnum, MegaBass Vision 110+1 and +2, LuckyCraft StaySee, LuckyCraft Point 128SP, etc. I also want to throw 1oz topwater pencil stickbaits like the LuckyCraft Sammy 128 on this rod. I’ve heard that this rod is versatile, and it can be used for any moving baits including spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and crankbaits as well. Here are my questions: This rod’s specifications are 6’ 8” Medium-Heavy power with a “Regular” action. What does “Regular” action mean? Does that mean Moderate? How is the rods power? For example, is it really stiff like a St. Croix Medium Heavy which is actually closer to a true Heavy or is it like a true Medium Heavy 3 power G. Loomis or does it have a tip of 2 power G. Loomis but has a backbone of a 4 power. I don’t want an overly stiff broomstick of a rod but understand that that sometimes a stiff heavy power rod is necessary and ideal for fishing heavy cover or working heavier and or higher resistance baits. The reason I don’t like stiff heavy powered rods anymore is because I am a recreational fisherman. I like the rod to bend because it makes it so much for fun when fighting a fish. Moreover, how is the sensitivity? Also, can this rod double up and fish lighter jerkbaits like the original MegaBass Vision 110 and even smaller jerkbaits like 3/8oz sizes such as the LuckyCraft Pointer 78? Can this rod handle a weight slightly over the recommended specs of 3/8-1oz? For example, can it throw a Whopper Plopper 130 that weighs 1 and 3/8ths of an ounce without a problem? I just can’t do the MegaBass Destroyer F4.5-611X ONETEN SPECIAL because for one, it’s almost 7’. That is too long for a jerkbait in my opinion; at least, for my preference. Even the F5-68K is pushing it at 6’ 8”. Secondly, I’m not trying to drop $400+ on a Destroyer when I already went crazy bezerk buying $1000 worth of gear and tackle this past Black Friday. Instead of the MegaBass Destroyer F4.5-611X ONETEN SPECIAL, I’m going to purchase a G. Loomis Classic 6’ Medium Fast CR722 IMX to handle my lighter jerkbait needs and prefer the shorter 6’ length for jerkbaiting. It makes sense to me to have a shorter rod for jerkbaiting because you have to jerk the rod tip down and I don’t want to have to worry about the rod tip hitting any obstructions. Get the Oneten Special. Lot of dealers have them and would resell easier as well. 1 Quote
The Pond King Posted December 11, 2019 Author Posted December 11, 2019 I'm surprised that the vast majority of people have very little information and knowledge about MegaBass rods. I already knew this was specialized knowledge, so I didn't expect a ton of responses, but I'm just taken aback that all I got were essentially references. I didn't know it was that specialized. The rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper as I've gotten more and more into acquiring high end fishing gear. Graduating from G. Loomis to getting my doctorates in MegaBass is a lot harder than I anticipated. Same thing is happening at work. I am getting a more advanced technical knowledge and even the engineers can't answer my questions. That's besides the point. I digress. Yes, I first found out about this rod because of a post made by Gary. I was also referred to talk to Mark Perry from someone the *** boards. I'm going to investigate this further and will share this information with you guys. And NathanDLTH and FrogMann, thanks for your additional recommendation on what rod to get. BaitFinesse, thanks for the additional info as well. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 11, 2019 Super User Posted December 11, 2019 The XXX rods have never seemed very popular in the US compared to some of the other MB lines. I have the Black Themis XXX rod and really like it. It's very well built and the power/taper work well together. Sensitivity is somewhere between the old IMX and new GLX rods. I use my BT for small jigs and drops-hotting and have no complaints. Quote
The Pond King Posted December 12, 2019 Author Posted December 12, 2019 Thanks fishwizzard! The rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper. I just found out about the JDM Deps rods. I bet most people have never even heard of Deps in the US because I sure as hell didn't know about them until now, and I'm an up and coming, aspiring, tackle enthusiast. I'm leaning towards the Deps Constrictor HGC-64XS/GP over the MegaBass Super Orochi XXX F5-68K now... ??? JDM tackle and gear is a whole new world I know very little about. Does the rabbit hole have a bottom or is it like a black hole? Guess there’s only one way to find out. Quote
FrogMann Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 That Deps looks SICK!!! GET IT LOL If you like it, I want one too Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted December 12, 2019 Super User Posted December 12, 2019 Get the Deps! I am also trying to work up the courage to take the plunge on a lesser known jdm rod. https://japanlureshop.com/catalog/product/view/id/12692/s/legit-design-wild-side-bait-casting-model-wsc64l-bait-finesse/category/602/ 2 Quote
Kev-mo Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 13 hours ago, The Pond King said: Thanks fishwizzard! The rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper. I just found out about the JDM Deps rods. I bet most people have never even heard of Deps in the US because I sure as hell didn't know about them until now, and I'm an up and coming, aspiring, tackle enthusiast. I'm leaning towards the Deps Constrictor HGC-64XS/GP over the MegaBass Super Orochi XXX F5-68K now... ??? JDM tackle and gear is a whole new world I know very little about. Does the rabbit hole have a bottom or is it like a black hole? Guess there’s only one way to find out. Yeah that rod looks awesome! Specs are sweet too! Reminds me of the 6'6" Shimano Magnumlite I have which is a great stick despite its age. I can only imagine how much nicer the Deps is... let us know if you get/like. Quote
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