Neutral / Sinking Hi - Vis Braid ?

[ChrisD46]

*Looking for a neutral or sinking hi - viz braid to use with bottom applications (i.e. Shakey Head or Ned Rig) and a FC leader? ... Besides the Sunline SX1 braid , has any other manufacturer come out with a neutral or sinking braid for bottom applications in the #8lb. to #15 lb. test range ?  Trying to remove the tendency to get a bow in the line fishing deeper  using the #8 lb. ~ #15 lb. floating braids from Power Pro , Sufix , etc.

 

Thanks in advance !

[Team9nine]

I've been using YGK G-Soul SS112 sinking braid for much of the year and have been thoroughly impressed to date. Believe it's available from TW in both 10# and 14# tests. I've been using the 14#, but plan to grab another spool or two while the big sale is on.

 

[5/0]

1 hour ago, Team9nine said:

I've been using YGK G-Soul SS112 sinking braid for much of the year and have been thoroughly impressed to date. Believe it's available from TW in both 10# and 14# tests. I've been using the 14#, but plan to grab another spool or two while the big sale is on.

 

 

I see that this is not 100% braid, it’s wrapped with mono. Checked out the OhDragon, similar price, and saw it’s wrapped with flouro. Is this to allow it to sink faster? Does it handle like straight brand?

 

Joe

[Team9nine]

18 hours ago, 5/0 said:

I see that this is not 100% braid, it’s wrapped with mono. Checked out the OhDragon, similar price, and saw it’s wrapped with flouro. Is this to allow it to sink faster? Does it handle like straight brand?

 

Joe

Manufacturers have to incorporate something else into the braid mix in order to get the specific gravity higher to create a neutral or sinking braid. I don't believe anyone has come up with another way around the issue yet. Sufix 832 is another very good line that has one strand of Gore fiber weaved into it to help offset the lighter density of braids parent material. On the YGK specifically, the mix with PE fibers is to increase the density of the overall line to 1.12 g/cm^3 (hence its name). It handles just like a high end braid; I'd argue better than most straight braids.

[OilfieldCowboy]

6 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

On the YGK specifically, the mix of PE fibers is to increase the density of the overall line to 1.12 g/cm^3 (hence its name). It handles just like a high end braid; I'd argue better than most straight braids.

I just picked up a spool of the 0.008in dia line to give a try, thank you for the heads up on this brand.

[Team9nine]

1 hour ago, OilfieldCowboy said:

I just picked up a spool of the 0.008in dia line to give a try, thank you for the heads up on this brand.

You're welcome. Definitely report back after you get a chance to try the line. Haven't seen many that have tried it yet, and curious to see if others like it as much as I do. I picked up another spool today while the sales are going

[5/0]

Thinking of giving it a shot too. I wish it came in green, confidence thing! The OhDragon does come in a green. Based on your explanation it is more dense, but looks to be very similar.

[OilfieldCowboy]

3 hours ago, Team9nine said:

You're welcome. Definitely report back after you get a chance to try the line. Haven't seen many that have tried it yet, and curious to see if others like it as much as I do. I picked up another spool today while the sales are going

Will do. It prompted me to make another order of primarily terminal tackle and line. I picked up both the SS112 and SS140. Unfortunately, they won't see much use until next spring.

[ChrisD46]

Thanks Team 9 , I'll look to pick up a spool in one of the lighter pound test offerings today ...

[FryDog62]

I tried Tuf-Line Hevi-Core a few years back, although it sank I wasn't impressed with tensile strength.  Snapped a little too easily.  I plan to try some YGK SS112 next Spring when our water is in liquid format again.  Anyone used it on a bait caster, if so what size?  

[Leo Vann]

Gary Yamamoto gave me a spool of YGK G-SoulSS112, he uses it quite a bit. I don’t use it, but I do still have the spool, the line does sink, but I’m sticking with 832! Also, as a WARNING, the YGK works best with spinning gear. It’s incredibly limp, and seems ( to me at least ) to be designed for spinning setups.

[OilfieldCowboy]

7 hours ago, Leo Vann said:

Also, as a WARNING, the YGK works best with spinning gear. It’s incredibly limp, and seems ( to me at least ) to be designed for spinning setups.

Perfect for my intended use on a line counter trolling reel.

[Leo Vann]

35 minutes ago, OilfieldCowboy said:

Perfect for my intended use on a line counter trolling reel.

?

[ChrisD46]

On 12/2/2019 at 5:33 PM, Leo Vann said:

Gary Yamamoto gave me a spool of YGK G-SoulSS112, he uses it quite a bit. I don’t use it, but I do still have the spool, the line does sink, but I’m sticking with 832! Also, as a WARNING, the YGK works best with spinning gear. It’s incredibly limp, and seems ( to me at least ) to be designed for spinning setups.

*That's the plan - Ned Rig and Shakey Head set ups used on the bottom to reduce the bow in floating braid .

[Leo Vann]

1 minute ago, ChrisD46 said:

*That's the plan - Ned Rig and Shakey Head set ups used on the bottom to reduce the bow in floating braid .

Good deal. Just wanted to throw that out there so you wouldn’t make any mistakes. ?

[ChrisD46]

Interesting - I just found that Sufix 832 comes in a # 6 lb. hi - viz yellow (.006 diameter which is the same as Power Pro #10 lb. braid) . A little thicker I believe  to allow for the internal strand of Gortex  ...

[Team9nine]

5 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said:

Interesting - I just found that Sufix 832 comes in a # 6 lb. hi - viz yellow (.006 diameter which is the same as Power Pro #10 lb. braid) . A little thicker I believe  to allow for the internal strand of Gortex  ...

I’ve got and have used both 6# and 10# Sufix 832. It’s definitely thicker, but smooth. If I had to rank, I’d go YGK, PP, 832. Just my personal opinion, as I have all three spooled up right now and in use.

 

And I’d agree with Leo  - my initial impressions are that YGK is not a heavy baitcast kind of line, but more a finesse spinning type.

[ChrisD46]

5 hours ago, Team9nine said:

I’ve got and have used both 6# and 10# Sufix 832. It’s definitely thicker, but smooth. If I had to rank, I’d go YGK, PP, 832. Just my personal opinion, as I have all three spooled up right now and in use.

 

And I’d agree with Leo  - my initial impressions are that YGK is not a heavy baitcast kind of line, but more a finesse spinning type.

Thanks Team9nine - good to know ! *I plan on looking into the YGK but have a couple of questions : 1) . For the Ned Rig I was thinking the #10 lb. line size would be ideal and for the Shakey Head the #14 lb. size would be ideal as mainlines . I possibly could use one line size for both but my Ned Rigs generally top out with 1/16th oz. jig head with a small TRD . My shakey head jig size goes up to 1/8th - 3/16th oz. and larger size soft plastic trick worms . Current Ned Rig is using PP #8 lb. while shakey head is PP #10 lb. - #15 lb. main line + FC leader of #6 lb. to #8 lb.

[Team9nine]

3 hours ago, ChrisD46 said:

Thanks Team9nine - good to know ! *I plan on looking into the YGK but have a couple of questions : 1) . For the Ned Rig I was thinking the #10 lb. line size would be ideal and for the Shakey Head the #14 lb. size would be ideal as mainlines . I possibly could use one line size for both but my Ned Rigs generally top out with 1/16th oz. jig head with a small TRD . My shakey head jig size goes up to 1/8th - 3/16th oz. and larger size soft plastic trick worms . Current Ned Rig is using PP #8 lb. while shakey head is PP #10 lb. - #15 lb. main line + FC leader of #6 lb. to #8 lb.

I'd agree with the above completely. I bought the 14# based on what Shin Fukae said he used for shaky heads, which was what I originally bought it for. AFter using the line, including for 'Ned,' I think the 14# would work fine with most Ned setups, but I too just bought a 10# spool (YGK) for a separate outfit to do Midwest finesse...and hopefully crappie  Currently use 5# and 8# PP for Ned, and 8# PP or 10# 832 for shaky.

 

[5/0]

On 12/1/2019 at 11:48 AM, Team9nine said:

I've been using YGK G-Soul SS112 sinking braid for much of the year and have been thoroughly impressed to date. Believe it's available from TW in both 10# and 14# tests. I've been using the 14#, but plan to grab another spool or two while the big sale is on.

 

I just received a spool of the .008 inch SS140 to split on a couple of spinning outfits next year, both are 2500 reels.

I figure I’d have to spool each reel 3/4 full of 10# mono backing to accomplish this, is this accurate? I want to get 80 yds of YGK on each reel.

 

[Team9nine]

1 hour ago, 5/0 said:

I just received a spool of the .008 inch SS140 to split on a couple of spinning outfits next year, both are 2500 reels.

I figure I’d have to spool each reel 3/4 full of 10# mono backing to accomplish this, is this accurate? I want to get 80 yds of YGK on each reel.

 

Exactly what I did, on the same sized reels. Measured and walked it off to split the spool into two nearly identical lengths, then topped off. If you get it wrong the first time, you can always pull it off and either add or remove the needed mono to get it right. Had to do that with one of the two reels I spooled. Once done though, that reel will always be easy to top off without ever having to remeasure 

[5/0]

Thanks Team9! Can’t wait to fish the stuff!

[Team9nine]

Another spool of YGK line just arrived tonight (10#), along with a few "Ned" restocks