Swindle and Palaniuk coming back to BASS

[bowhunter63]

Great news go Bass, MLF I don’t think really took off like they thought.

[jbsoonerfan]

33 minutes ago, bowhunter63 said:

Great news go Bass, MLF I don’t think really took off like they thought.

Based off what?

[TnRiver46]

22 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Based off what?

Large negative backlash? BP and the G man leaving after year 1? MLFs North Korea like reaction to any criticism? Maybe they realized that trying to get everyone’s wife to watch wasn’t the best idea? 

[jbsoonerfan]

Just now, TnRiver46 said:

Large negative backlash? BP and the G man leaving after year 1? 

 

Where? Some dude nobody has ever heard of on his podcast. And two of the best in FLW replaced them. 

[TnRiver46]

1 minute ago, jbsoonerfan said:

 

Where? Some dude nobody has ever heard of on his podcast. And two of the best in FLW replaced them. 

Bass Resource? Do you work for MLF? 

[jbsoonerfan]

Just now, TnRiver46 said:

Bass Resource 

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!

1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said:

Bass Resource? Do you work for MLF? 

Sure don't. Just curious when someone throws out accusations about something where they are coming from.

[TnRiver46]

Luke Dunkin is more connected than you might think and if nobody has ever heard of him, why did the president of MLF go over his head in an attempt to censor his comments?? 

[jbsoonerfan]

3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Luke Dunkin is more connected than you might think and if nobody has ever heard of him, why did the president of MLF go over his head in an attempt to censor his comments?? 

Okay man, I'm not going to argue with you. I was just curious that's all. I could care less what MLF/BPT, FLW, BASS or whatever else do as I don't think I will ever have to worry about me working for any of them. 

[Tlauz]

I hardly think 2 anglers leaving is a sign of trouble.  I stated earlier I expect a lot of anglers to return to BASS eventually. This will bring new blood into the BPT as well. Good for both.  Saying that this shows MLF didn't take off I think is wrong.  There are definitely people who do not like the format and are still bitter that the big stars left, but MLF's TV ratings have been very good. This is the most important thing.  I don't believe changes that BASS made that are good for anglers would have been made if not for the BPT tour.  I think having 2 successful tours is good for everyone.  What MLF has done in a short amount of time is amazing.  Disliking Boyd or the format is different than saying it has not been successful. 

[the reel ess]

On 11/28/2019 at 12:31 AM, Jeff Browning said:

I think I'm in the minority, but if you quit your job can you just come back??

Often, yes. There are a lot of variables there. But there are a couple of jobs I left on such good terms that it's possible I could return. And I've seen it happen. Business is business. They need names and these are two big names.

[Jrob78]

21 hours ago, bowhunter63 said:

Great news go Bass, MLF I don’t think really took off like they thought.

So taking what has historically been the #2 tournament circuit in the country and making it their feeder system isn't "taking off like they thought?" Two guys who didn't have great seasons leaving and being replaced by two other big names isn't a sign of failure for the whole organization.

 

I'm not a fan of their "bury the competition" model and what it does to the sport but let's not pretend like that isn't how big businesses operate. Will it be successful in 10 years? Nobody knows, but their first year was very successful, even if they ruffled a bunch of feathers in the process.

[OCdockskipper]

It may be a mistake to think that MLF's TV ratings translate to success for BPT.  Although they are very similar, the "unknown lake" factor along with no practice & a different area or lake to fish for each round makes the MLF events a bit more dramatic than the BPT events.  I for one watch MLF events, but find the BPT to be a bit boring (then again, I also prefer to watch the BASS weigh-ins without knowing the Basstrak results).  BPT has some format issues it needs to resolve.

 

It is a shame that Duckett & BASS couldn't have come to an agreement years back to make the MLF format a kind of "post season" event within the Elite series.  That would have been the best of both worlds, at least for the fans.  What would really be intriguing is if BASS created an MLF like postseason, designed specifically for TV.  Take what works with MLF, discard the repetition ("General Tires anywhere is possible" promos & the such) and create an additional financial reward for those anglers who have good seasons.  ESPN is always looking for quality content and BASS can provide it for them.

[fishballer06]

WOW  

 

Just wow. That's all I can say after listening to G Man's interview about why he made the move. You all need to go listen to the interview. It's well worth your time. Gerald said he knew during the first day of the second MLF event that he absolutely hated it and that he wanted out. So much great insight in his interview. I might have to give it another listen. 

[Adam.love05]

18 minutes ago, fishballer06 said:

WOW  

 

Just wow. That's all I can say after listening to G Man's interview about why he made the move. You all need to go listen to the interview. It's well worth your time. Gerald said he knew during the first day of the second MLF event that he absolutely hated it and that he wanted out. So much great insight in his interview. I might have to give it another listen. 

Where is it available?

[Tim Kelly]

1 hour ago, Adam.love05 said:

Where is it available?

BTL Bass talk live, on you tube. 

 

[TnRiver46]

On 11/28/2019 at 7:50 PM, Smalls said:

I’m curious how they got out of that 3 year contract they had with MLF. 

Paid $50k out of pocket

[12poundbass]

3 hours ago, fishballer06 said:

WOW  

 

Just wow. That's all I can say after listening to G Man's interview about why he made the move. You all need to go listen to the interview. It's well worth your time. Gerald said he knew during the first day of the second MLF event that he absolutely hated it and that he wanted out. So much great insight in his interview. I might have to give it another listen. 

It was a pretty good interview. He made some valid points why he didn’t like it that I hadn’t thought of before. 

[scaleface]

The interview is over an hour long , I'm not going to sit through  that . What were some of the highlights ?

[12poundbass]

5 minutes ago, scaleface said:

The interview is over an hour long , I'm not going to sit through  that . What were some of the highlights ?

Basically he new during the second event he made a mistake and wanted out. He missed the five biggest format, the fans, being able to talk to his fellow anglers. It cost him (or his sponsors) $50k to get out of his contract. His sponsors supported him going to BPT, but we’re ecstatic he was going back to the Elites. BASS welcomed him back with open arms and MLF/BPT weren’t to happy about him leaving. When asked why he went to BPT he said a bit of peer pressure and the short time given to decide (I found that kind of a weak cop out).

 

You could tell he wasn’t happy.

 

 

[ReedFish]

18 minutes ago, scaleface said:

The interview is over an hour long , I'm not going to sit through  that . What were some of the highlights ?

Skip up to 25mins and listen from there.

 

Just some honest thoughts from one of the best in the game.

[BassNJake]

Thanks for the video- it speaks volumes as to what Gerald was thinking and going through the past year.

He says a lot and it is very informative plus he drops the redneck knowledge lol ... ...

50 grand to buy out his BPT contract

Regarding leaving MLF- "it was more about the money than it was about me"

 

Glad to see that he is gonna fish the opens helping his nephew.

If you have followed Gerald's career, his brother dying was a very difficult time for him.

I get emotional everytime I think about all the anglers idling out with the passenger side live well lid open as a sign of respect.

 

https://www.bassmaster.com/blog/livewell-tony

 

[RichF]

I'm glad 2 of the most high profile guys left the BPT. The whole deal just rubbed me the wrong way in the first place. I like the G-man a heck of a lot more now. 

[OCdockskipper]

Based on Swindles relationship with Jordan & Matt Lee (part friend, part mentor), I would not be surprised to see those two come back to BASS next year or the year after.  They might have to go the Opens route, but they should do well enough to re-qualify for the Elites in the first year or two.  Jordan has a legitimate shot to be the greatest Classic angler of all time, that has got to be tugging at him to go back.

 

The peer pressure comment was interesting, I wonder how many other anglers allowed themselves to get swept along with the tide.

[Troy85]

8 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

Based on Swindles relationship with Jordan & Matt Lee (part friend, part mentor), I would not be surprised to see those two come back to BASS next year or the year after.  They might have to go the Opens route, but they should do well enough to re-qualify for the Elites in the first year or two.  Jordan has a legitimate shot to be the greatest Classic angler of all time, that has got to be tugging at him to go back.

 

The peer pressure comment was interesting, I wonder how many other anglers allowed themselves to get swept along with the tide.

I was very surprised when Jordan Lee Left BASS.  He had won 2 of his 5 classics, I thought for sure he was gonna stick around and try to surpass KVD or Clunn for Classic wins.

[scaleface]

9 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

Based on Swindles relationship with Jordan & Matt Lee (part friend, part mentor), I would not be surprised to see those two come back to BASS next year or the year after.  They might have to go the Opens route, but they should do well enough to re-qualify for the Elites in the first year or two.  Jordan has a legitimate shot to be the greatest Classic angler of all time, that has got to be tugging at him to go back.

 

I think classic champions and anglers of the year can get  legendary status , if true Jordan can  get in that way .  I imagine Qualifying through the Opens would be difficult for anybody .