learnin Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 How much difference in a 6ft M/L fast action St Croix Triumph spinning rod vs a Triumph 6'6" M/L fast action rod? I'm thinking the 6ft will feel closer to a Med power. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted November 17, 2019 Super User Posted November 17, 2019 Why make assumptions? Go pick up the rods, better yet, if you can, fish with them BEFORE you decide what you think they might be like. Rods feel different to everybody. I would never let anybody else’s opinion about what feels good to them, tell me how it’s going to feel to me. Quote
Hulkster Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 they should feel exactly the same just one rod will be longer. i know both loomis and st croix tend the keep the actions/tapers true with blank length not really changing them Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted November 18, 2019 Super User Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hulkster said: they should feel exactly the same just one rod will be longer. i know both loomis and st croix tend the keep the actions/tapers true with blank length not really changing them What he said. Quote
Super User MickD Posted November 24, 2019 Super User Posted November 24, 2019 Power is power regardless of length of the rod. If the manufacturer is doing it right. However, the longer rod will not feel the same as the shorter one. With the longer lever arm you will feel more torque for the same tension on the line. It will cast farther because of the longer lever developing more tip speed. Personal preference, but I prefer most rods to be close to 7 feet. It is more likely that a 6 foot rod will balance well, and it's more likely for the longer rods will be tip heavy. For some techniques balance is important while for others it is less important. Think the difference between holding the rod tip up vs tip down. There is one easy to use system to objectively measure power and action, and power is given as the weight it takes to deflect the rod 1/3 its length. The action is given as the angle to vertical that the tip is at this load (butt being level). A 6 foot and 6 1/2 rod with the same weight to deflect are considered the same power. It was developed for fly rods, but works for all rods. https://www.common-cents.info/ Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 24, 2019 Super User Posted November 24, 2019 Longer rod with the same power rating by the same manufacturer will feel different from a shorter because the power loads up over a longer section of the rod blank. Lets compare a 5 1/2' medium heavy fast action rod to 7 1/2' medium heavy fast action. It's easier to determine a 5 1/2' rod loads up much faster then a 7 1/2'. As the rod lengths get close the difference gets marginal ie, 6'10" vs 7' rod. Balance shouldn't change if the balance (fulcrum) point is the center of the reel seat. We all use rods with lure tied on so a longer rod will be tip heavy feel do to the longer leverage regardless of the rod maker. Touch and feel is can only be evaluated by each individual to determine preference or performance. Tom 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 24, 2019 Super User Posted November 24, 2019 I would think it should be pretty close to the same. It may load a little different but the power would be about the same. Take a look at Tackle Tours numerous rod reviews. They have a rod deflection chart with each review and this will show the power characteristics across the length of the rod. How accurate is it?> I have no idea but the info is there for you so you can judge for yourself. 1 Quote
learnin Posted November 24, 2019 Author Posted November 24, 2019 Thanks, looks like a good site. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted November 25, 2019 Posted November 25, 2019 Length, power and action are separate attributes that compliment but not necessarily affect one another. Which combination of the three suit your application and preference can only be determined by trial and error while other’s opinions may help narrow down options. 1 Quote
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