Morning Dawn / Twilight Color : What Water Depth ?

[ChrisD46]

For the soft plastic morning dawn / twilight color Robo Worm made famous  (and now others) have introduced : Do you find this is a "deep water depth only" color scheme OR have you had luck throwing the morning dawn color in shallow water depths as well ?

[J Francho]

I fish my baits at depths where bass are actively feeding.

[RB 77]

Well, all depths, but that style of color is more of a clear water color for me more than anything.

[WRB]

Morning Dawn was initially a DVL Special color that became a standard for clear water SoCal lakes and spread out nation wide.

It is popular in the off color water in the Delta.

Tom

[Catt]

Now we picking colors based on water depth?

 

[ChrisD46]

Thanks for the replies - I met a guy from NorCal who drop shot the pink / purple "Morning Dawn" color got me started on west coast colors  who had this to say : "Morning Dawn tends to work best for spotted bass - the theory being that the color hues of Morning Dawn appear more as a dark purple / brown color at clear , deeper water depth due to those color wave lengths being the last to change as the bait is dropped deeper in clear water  (or some close semblance there of ...) which spotted bass tend to like . The gentleman also said he has caught spotted bass shallow on Morning Dawn color as well and believes spotted bass like pink as well as the translucent purple color of the Morning Dawn ... No doubt , Morning Dawn color was a west coast color that made it's way east for clear water spotted bass (i.e. Lake Lanier here in Georgia)  .

 

*Tom , what about other popular west coast soft plastic colors like : "Folkestad Special" & "Pro Staff Peoples Worm"  - what is the history on these west coast colors and the men who came up with the colors ?

[Fishin' Fool]

I think you're overthinking it. Keep in mind bass have a brain the size of a pea and are opportunistic feeders. I think colors make a difference a small percentage of the time. Saying that I do have confidence throwing morning dawn and twilight type colors in clear, shallow water for largemouth and smallmouth here in Michigan.

[WRB]

5 hours ago, ChrisD46 said:

Thanks for the replies - I met a guy from NorCal who drop shot the pink / purple "Morning Dawn" color got me started on west coast colors  who had this to say : "Morning Dawn tends to work best for spotted bass - the theory being that the color hues of Morning Dawn appear more as a dark purple / brown color at clear , deeper water depth due to those color wave lengths being the last to change as the bait is dropped deeper in clear water  (or some close semblance there of ...) which spotted bass tend to like . The gentleman also said he has caught spotted bass shallow on Morning Dawn color as well and believes spotted bass like pink as well as the translucent purple color of the Morning Dawn ... No doubt , Morning Dawn color was a west coast color that made it's way east for clear water spotted bass (i.e. Lake Lanier here in Georgia)  .

 

*Tom , what about other popular west coast soft plastic colors like : "Folkestad Special" & "Pro Staff Peoples Worm"  - what is the history on these west coast colors and the men who came up with the colors ?

The Folkstad Spl was a custom color Roboworm made for Mike Folkestad who won the US open at lake Mead using it. The Colorado River lakes Mead, Mojave and Havasu have always been red-purple soft plastics lakes and this worm works very well on the river lakes. The Peoples worm was kept under wraps for the Roboworm Pro staff and a copy of Zank's  (John Zanskoski ) Sculpin worm he develope for Castiac combining cinnamon brown and blue neon*. The name came from letting the general public (people) buy the color. The Peoples worm works everywhere.

Note, using human eyesight color spectrum and brain interpretion to determine how fish see colors underwater is voodoo science.

Tom

* Zank used moth and butterfly neon blue wing powers originally. 

[Bluebasser86]

I fish it for our smallmouth here which is rarely done deeper than 10'.

[Fishes in trees]

I like "voodoo science".   I think it is fun.  It lends itself to more speculative interpretations/ guesses/psuedo facts than regular science does.  That being said, I don't fish that Morning dawn color very often, so I'm not qualified to speculate on how different bass might see that color.

[ChrisD46]

9 hours ago, Fishes in trees said:

I like "voodoo science".   I think it is fun.  It lends itself to more speculative interpretations/ guesses/psuedo facts than regular science does.  That being said, I don't fish that Morning dawn color very often, so I'm not qualified to speculate on how different bass might see that color.

*Like the saying goes : "Color doesn't matter for bass - until it does" !! ... A local hand pour guy in Georgia just came out with a 6" worm he calls: "Melon Dawn" which is a green pumpkin / pink laminate color which as you would guess is a cross between Green Pumpkin and Morning Dawn (both colors  get bit on local reservoirs - so why not ?) ... Net Bait has a:  "Texas Craw" color worm which was a Green Pumpkin / Redbug laminate color 6" worm that does well in the same lakes .

16 hours ago, WRB said:

The Folkstad Spl was a custom color Roboworm made for Mike Folkestad who won the US open at lake Mead using it. The Colorado River lakes Mead, Mojave and Havasu have always been red-purple soft plastics lakes and this worm works very well on the river lakes. The Peoples worm was kept under wraps for the Roboworm Pro staff and a copy of Zank's  (John Zanskoski ) Sculpin worm he develope for Castiac combining cinnamon brown and blue neon*. The name came from letting the general public (people) buy the color. The Peoples worm works everywhere.

Note, using human eyesight color spectrum and brain interpretion to determine how fish see colors underwater is voodoo science.

Tom

* Zank used moth and butterfly neon blue wing powers originally. 

*As always - great read Tom !!

[Spankey]

Two great colors. On the river I’m pretty shallow for the most part compared to you guys. 

 

The morning dawn with the little 3/4” chartreuse tail tip is good stuff also. 

[Shimano_1]

I fish that color a lot but rarely fish any deeper than 15 ft so I can't comment on really deep water. I've always assumed it to be more of a clear to slightly stained water color.