fluorocarbon lb for baitcasters?

[TriStateBassin106]

Hey BR,

 

I've been using mono and braid on my two baitcaster setups (one for texas rigging and jigs) and the other for my big moving baits (spinners chatterbaits and swimbaits)

 

for my braid setup I use 6lb leaders of fluoro, I plan on switching out these two combos to straight fluoro. what would be a good lb test to start out at?

 

My jigging/Texas combo:

 

Reel: Pflueger President XT, ratio: 7:3:1

Rod: Shimano Sellus 7'0 MH fast

 

Moving baits combo: 

Reel Enigma ippon, ratio: 6:4:1

Rod: 13 Fishing Defy Black 7'3 MH fast

[jbsoonerfan]

I don't use straight fluoro on any of my reels, but no matter what line I have ever used in the past or currently I focus on line diameter and not lb test. I like anything between .010 to .014 depending on what I am doing with it.

[FishTank]

I have been using 12lb Seaguar Invizx.  I have tried other but this seems to be the best bang for the buck.

[TriStateBassin106]

1 minute ago, FishTank said:

I have been using 12lb Seaguar Invizx.  I have tried other but this seems to be the best bang for the buck.

do the fish see it at all? i heard they see thicker fluoro.

[jbsoonerfan]

2 minutes ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

do the fish see it at all? i heard they see thicker fluoro.

Whoever told you that must have had a bunch of thin fluoro to sell. LOL

[FishTank]

5 minutes ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

do the fish see it at all? i heard they see thicker fluoro.

I don't think so but I haven't had a chance to ask them.....  Just joking....  It's pretty much invisible under water.  I can usually get a whole season or two depending on the the set up and how frequently I use it. 

[TriStateBassin106]

11 minutes ago, FishTank said:

I don't think so but I haven't had a chance to ask them.....  Just joking....  It's pretty much invisible under water.  I can usually get a whole season or two depending on the the set up and how frequently I use it. 

I never understood people saying stuff about fish seeing thicker line, but at the same time why use lighter lb leaders?

[WRB]

Bass are not line shy fish but they can be wary of line that affects the lure action negatively.

To understand this using .012D line of any type can kill the swimming movements of a live Threadfin shad live bait. Changing to small light wire hooked live Shad using .008D line the shad swims better and the bass react to the more natural movements.

Same thing happens using some artifical lures like soft plastic, the line can adversely affect the way the bass react. 

It comes down to balancing the line with the lure; smaller lighter weight lures use smaller diameter line, larger heavier lures use line appropriate for the lure and cover conditions.

In general bass size Bait casting reels don't function well with line diameters under .010, spinning reels don't work good with line over .010D.

Tom

[Bluebasser86]

I've got fluoro from 10 to 25lb on my casting reels. 12-17 is the sweet spot imo.

[roadwarrior]

Tatsu #12

 

[813basstard]

9 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I've got fluoro from 10 to 25lb on my casting reels. 12-17 is the sweet spot imo.

^yeah

This.

The more the bait moves, lighter the line. Less it moves, heavier. 
 

Of course this IMO

[waymont]

13 hours ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

for my braid setup I use 6lb leaders of fluoro

You use 6lb leaders on MH rods? That seems like a problem right there.

[onthewater102]

To achieve a true match to the refraction index of water you need to use fluorocarbon diameters of ~0.008"/.205mm and thinner (7lb test and smaller), thicker than that and the line won't be truly invisible under water, not saying whether it does or doesn't matter to the fish.

I think impact on the lure action and durability for your particular application are more important. I always try to get away with the lightest line I can reasonably use for a given situation, but I spool almost every reel with 25lb braid (0.009"/.23mm) and use different leaders based on the lure.

 

As long as my braided line is stronger than the leader the leader remains the weakest point in the connection to the lure. Other than casting umbrella rigs and exceptionally heavy swim baits where shocks from backlashes could break the line I see no point to the super-heavy braids for bass fishing.

[Manly Studson]

On 11/1/2019 at 7:54 AM, roadwarrior said:

Tatsu #12

 

Creepy!

[boostr]

On my bank fishing gear, 6'6" MH Fast I have 50lb Power Pro with 17lb Flouro leader for when I'm using Jigs (cause I throw them into some questionable areas) I just change up the Floro leader size to according what I throw. I also have H Fast rod with 50lb Power Pro for frogging or if I'm tossing into salad  and the such. Leave 6lb anything on spinning gear. I have 20lb Power Pro slick 8 on my spinning reel and use 6-10lb Flouro leader on that.

[Tizi]

I use 10 lb seaguar invisx for jigs/worms and 10 lb sunline assassin for treble hook baits.

 

I don't like using leaders if I can get away with it.

[deadadrift89]

Sunline Sniper 14# on both for me

[Scrapiron]

I use 12# Tatsu with my M rod and lures and 15# Tatsu with my MH. 
 

Started using FC late this year after many years of broad to FC. Jury’s still out for me on a decision.

 

I do like Tatsu better than Sniper or Invisx.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

#16 Sniper FC hits my sweet spot.

[Shimano_1]

I use 15 or 20 fc on my jig rods and 12 or 15 on everything else 

[OnthePotomac]

My lines are really simple:

10/12lb Invizx for cranks

15 Invizx for every thing else except

17lb XL mono for top waters, swim baits, spinner/blade baits

50lb Sufix 832 on the frog rod

[Joseph Baggs]

On 11/10/2019 at 11:44 AM, OnthePotomac said:

My lines are really simple:

10/12lb Invizx for cranks

15 Invizx for every thing else except

17lb XL mono for top waters, swim baits, spinner/blade baits

50lb Sufix 832 on the 

When you say 10/12lb Invisx, are you using it as a leader or straight flouro? I'm debating on spooling up a BC with straight 12lb Invizx or Sunline Sniper, but alot of rhe stuff I am reading, people are saying that there are alot of issues if you get some overrun or backlash at all. Has this been your experience?

[roadwarrior]

what is a backlash?

 

You will be fine.

[ChrisD46]

On 10/31/2019 at 10:38 PM, FishTank said:

I have been using 12lb Seaguar Invizx.  I have tried other but this seems to be the best bang for the buck.

*What techniques are you using the #12 lb. InvizX for ?

[OnthePotomac]

For me some plastics and crankbaits on 12lb Invizx.