Live bait on fly rod for bass/bluegill? Experimenters needed!

[M0xxie]

Culling time is here, and just looking for a way to catch a lot of eatable fish quickly.

 

Any fly fisherman here?  Can someone run an experiment for me?  If I (or you) nose-hooked a live minnow on a barbless hook with a bobber-stop on a tapered-leadered fly line off a fly rod, would that bait be alive enough to swim with overhead shooting type cast (no more than 50' with little/no splitshot)? 

 

Would the minnow just whip off the hook?  Salt water fly fishermen, you ever do this?  I believe it's legal in my state, after thru last-updated regulations dated 2015.

 

Thinking of also trying a live minnow on drop shot with fly rod -- has anyone tried THAT before?  Results?  I think I'd tend to use a palomar for dshot, but open to dropper loop, though that might cast worse.

 

Last question:  has anyone dropshotted a lake with live wax worms for shellcracker or pumpkinseeds on a fly rod?

[TnRiver46]

It flies off the hook. For panfish, you dont need live bait if you have flies. They hit nymphs like crazy 

[M0xxie]

3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

It flies off the hook. For panfish, you dont need live bait if you have flies. They hit nymphs like crazy 

 

How about a roll cast with minnow, inside of 17-15 feet?

[TnRiver46]

3 minutes ago, M0xxie said:

 

How about a roll cast with minnow, inside of 17-15 feet?

Impossible! Haha. The minnow is so heavy all you can do is pitch it underhanded and you better duck/flinch 

[Oregon Native]

Your up early "River"

 

My best numbers bait is a good ol Berkly magot (white) and a small light wire hook...no weight.  MONEY  Numbers too

[M0xxie]

3 minutes ago, Oregon Native said:

My best numbers bait is a good ol Berkly magot (white) and a small light wire hook...no weight.  MONEY  Numbers too

I'll only be wanting info on live bait.  Can't brand live bait, can you, "Berkly" (Berkley)?

[TnRiver46]

19 minutes ago, Oregon Native said:

Your up early "River"

 

My best numbers bait is a good ol Berkly magot (white) and a small light wire hook...no weight.  MONEY  Numbers too

You caught me. Bout to head to the river. Wanna go? 

[M0xxie]

1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said:

 Wanna go? 

Sure!  What about drop shotting goldfish on a fly rod with a roll cast?  Barbed hooks on size 1 with bobber stops on double palomar -- almost like sabiki (sp).  

[TnRiver46]

6 minutes ago, M0xxie said:

Sure!  What about drop shotting goldfish on a fly rod with a roll cast?  Barbed hooks on size 1 with bobber stops on double palomar -- almost like sabiki (sp).  

The fish itself is too heavy to roll cast with a fly rod. I cant even roll cast a heavy wet streamer much less an actual fish . Throw in a sinker and the question is why thr heck are using a bug whip to cast live bait with sinkers. Your only option to "cast" is just swing it underhanded like you would if it was attached to any other rod. A finesse worm with no sinker is too heavy for fly rod. Believe me ive tried it in a fly fishing only pond. And ive pitched live bluegill with fly rod and a roll cast (in fly casting terms) is beyond impossble 

[M0xxie]

Just looking for a good way to snap their heads off and chum the brook.   Kids are gonna SEE faces of goldfish getting bug whipped into bloody quarters on halloween.  I wanted to know my plan would work from cast ONE, and kind of whip bait fishing into a frothy little firework you crack in the air, so of course I contacted the experts, Muahahahaha!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Happy Halloween

[Oregon Native]

Would of loved too..........going this morning and chase some white's.  Ol Buddy picking me up.  Gosh....have never....never been drove to a body of water this much in my life.   Again Praise God for friends.

[Scott F]

I’ve fished for crappies using minnows and a fly rod before. I wasn’t using a fly reel and fly line though. I’d put on a spinning reel and used the long rod to drop the minnow into brush piles, flooded bushes and trees. Didn’t do much casting at all. 

[J Francho]

Try tossing a #20 black midge on a flippin' stick.

 

[plawren53202]

When I was a kid we would fish in Mississippi River sloughs and oxbow lakes for big bluegill, and we would use flyrods with crickets as live bait.  Besides the hook and cricket, we would use one splitshot in the tiniest size we could find, along with a very small float as a strike indicator.  Even with that light setup, it was all roll casting.  I can't imagine that the cricket would have stayed on the hook on a standard overhand cast.  In any case, we were frequently fishing among cypress trees, so overhand casting wasn't an option in the first place.