Jonas Staggs Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Im wondering if others out there do this. If your fishing a texas rig and want to switch to a carolina rig, rather than retying a whole new rig, I just slide the weight and bead up, and use a small split shot for a stopper. I now have a carolina rig, and if I want to switch back to texas rig, all I need to do is remove the split shot........is there anyone else out there doing this? Do you see any drawbacks to doing this? Quote
Todd2 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 I do it some but I usually like the C-Rig to be a little heavier, but it works fine. 1 Quote
papajoe222 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 The only real drawback I can think of would be any line damage caused by crimping a split shot on to it. I do something similar when fishing water under 12ft. deep. I normally use a bobber stop between the weight and knot of my Texas rig and will just slide the weight and stopper up. The result is more like split shotting than a C-rig, but it accomplishes separating the weight from the plastic. 3 Quote
Smalls Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 People have been doing this forever. Usually they call it a “finesse Carolina rig”, cause the weights are usually pretty small in comparison. 1 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted October 22, 2019 Super User Posted October 22, 2019 You can add bobbers stopper on bottom of your bead/weight and adjust accordingly. I like Carolina keeper better because heavy weight can slide down bobber stopper. 3 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted October 22, 2019 Super User Posted October 22, 2019 No, I don't normally fish a t-rig where I fish a C-ring and vise versa, and I tend to fish really light t-rigs, and heavy C-rigs. I do sometimes fish a pegged t-rig with a bobber stopper above and below the sinker and slide it up a tad, ending up with a pseudo splitshot or mojo I guess, but not often. 3 Quote
primetime Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 bobber stop above and below the weight is the way to go...Or just buy some gremlin bullet shaped split shots and just remove them as needed..... You can also simply use a rubber peg and either remove it to let weight slide, or move weight up and down the line, just leave a longer tag end.... 1 Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted October 22, 2019 Super User Posted October 22, 2019 Split shot can slip on the line. So can those Carolina Keepers, even when you use 2 of them back to back. Even when you crimp the shot on so hard that it damages the line, split shot can still slip. Bobber stops can slip at least every size of them that I have tried so far can sometimes slip. A rig that you don't hear much about lately - the "mojo" rig, involved cylinder style sinkers that were pegged with rugged bands. This rig worked - sometimes - but still every so often the weight slipped. I think if you want to throw a Carolina rig and be certain that your leader will stay a certain length, then tie a Carolina rig with the leader/swivel/ heavy weight set up. Use glass or plastic beads as knot protectors if you want to or not. Now lets get into the rig you're throwing. A tx worm rig and a Carolina rig require different rod actions. IMO with a Texas rig, you're generally throwing to objects/specific targets and so you need a little tip on the rod, to help with pitching on the cast and sensitivity feeling bites during the retrieve. A Carolina rig requires a longer rod - to heave the heavier weight and associated leader & bait a long distance. Cast is more of a lob. Setting the hook is different. Get bit on a tx rig and there is no telling how you might have to set the hook, generally one tries to set the hook in the opposite direction from where the fish is swimming. Swimming towards you, one might have to take the hook set straight up. Should you try to use a straight up hook set on a Carolina rig, you'll miss close to 100% of your hits. In a Carolina rig hook set, you tighten up and swing to the side. OK, sorry, rant over. Just a few reasons why I wouldn't bother with the "instant Carolina rig" concept. Should you try it, you'll probably catch some fish. The issue becomes will you catch as many as you might should you use the correct tool? Me? . ..I'm a use the correct tool kind of guy and I have no issues carrying 20+ rods & reels in the boat, just so I have a better chance of carrying the correct tool. 2 1 Quote
Jonas Staggs Posted October 22, 2019 Author Posted October 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Fishes in trees said: Split shot can slip on the line. So can those Carolina Keepers, even when you use 2 of them back to back. Even when you crimp the shot on so hard that it damages the line, split shot can still slip. Bobber stops can slip at least every size of them that I have tried so far can sometimes slip. A rig that you don't hear much about lately - the "mojo" rig, involved cylinder style sinkers that were pegged with rugged bands. This rig worked - sometimes - but still every so often the weight slipped. I think if you want to throw a Carolina rig and be certain that your leader will stay a certain length, then tie a Carolina rig with the leader/swivel/ heavy weight set up. Use glass or plastic beads as knot protectors if you want to or not. Now lets get into the rig you're throwing. A tx worm rig and a Carolina rig require different rod actions. IMO with a Texas rig, you're generally throwing to objects/specific targets and so you need a little tip on the rod, to help with pitching on the cast and sensitivity feeling bites during the retrieve. A Carolina rig requires a longer rod - to heave the heavier weight and associated leader & bait a long distance. Cast is more of a lob. Setting the hook is different. Get bit on a tx rig and there is no telling how you might have to set the hook, generally one tries to set the hook in the opposite direction from where the fish is swimming. Swimming towards you, one might have to take the hook set straight up. Should you try to use a straight up hook set on a Carolina rig, you'll miss close to 100% of your hits. In a Carolina rig hook set, you tighten up and swing to the side. OK, sorry, rant over. Just a few reasons why I wouldn't bother with the "instant Carolina rig" concept. Should you try it, you'll probably catch some fish. The issue becomes will you catch as many as you might should you use the correct tool? Me? . ..I'm a use the correct tool kind of guy and I have no issues carrying 20+ rods & reels in the boat, just so I have a better chance of carrying the correct tool. thanks for the info, im stuck shore fishing for now. I have a few rods but when I fish, I typically cover ground around the lake, in the same manner you would over water on a boat. Hit a cove for a bit and move on, so lugging a bunch of poles is a hassle, espcecialy crawling through brush etc. Fishing like this is hard work but its part of the fun. So generally speaking I have only 1 pole with me. It becomes such a hassle to re-tie all the time, i typically start with my crankbaits and then move over to texas rigs and from there, the carolina rig, the only time I ever use the carolina rig is when I want to wacky rig, it needs to be weighted since im shore fishing. Its so much easier to just split shot it, then properly tie on a carolina rig, which requires 3 knots. Then if that aint working, gotta re-tie all over again. I almost got skunked today but I ended up finally catching one when I wacky rigged a worm this way. Its probably not the best way to do it, and probably is more like a split shot or something but im taking the convenience of it lol. Regading the beads, I have them but dont use them, I find I catch more fish without them than with them. My thinking is the noise scares the fish. Im sure it works better in some areas than others. I went out and bought all the latest greatest beads but dont even use them. I also figure the weight clacking against the split shot probably has the same effect as a bead. Quote
Jonas Staggs Posted October 22, 2019 Author Posted October 22, 2019 when you guys carolina rig, are you using a bullet weight or egg sinkers? Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted October 23, 2019 Super User Posted October 23, 2019 Several decades ago, I was a bank bound, meat fishing bush hippie. I get that there are compromises that get made when you're in that position. Didn't realize that's the position the original poster was in. 1 Quote
Jonas Staggs Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, Fishes in trees said: Several decades ago, I was a bank bound, meat fishing bush hippie. I get that there are compromises that get made when you're in that position. Didn't realize that's the position the original poster was in. the kayak should change that for me soon! Quote
Hook2Jaw Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 I've experimented a tad with a more finesse Carolina rig, Pete Thliveros popularized it and has made a lot of money doing so. It's aptly named the Petey Rig, and generally consists of a bullet weight of 1/4oz or less pegged in a static position around 8-10" in front of the hook. Pete did/does damage to prespawn and spawning bass by fishing a fluke behind it. I believe the entire point is to keep the fluke near the bottom while preserving the falling and gliding action of that particular bait. I've caught a few fish using it in both salt and freshwater. I don't see why you can't simply slide your bobber stops down to the hook eye and have a quick Texas rig should you be limited to only a few rods. I don't like the extra terminal tackle involved, the stops tend to grab all the garbage I'm throwing around and if they were close to the bait, they would definitely gum up the action. In a pinch, I don't think there's anything wrong with that method. In a pinch, I wouldn't fray my line by pinching on a split shot. Use pegs or bobber stops. 1 Quote
Todd2 Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Jonas Staggs said: when you guys carolina rig, are you using a bullet weight or egg sinkers? If I'm strictly doing a C-Rig, I usually use mojo style or egg weights.. But if I'm setting up one with a bobber stopper/carolina keeper for adjusting down to a Texas rig, like your original question, then I usually use 1/4 oz bullet weights. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 23, 2019 Super User Posted October 23, 2019 Instead of using a split shot just peg the bead using a Rubber Peg-It. What you discovered is the slip shot rig or finesse C-rig. Search "slip shot" I have a several threads on this rig. Tom 1 Quote
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