Ultimate heavy cover 6 inch senko rod

[Bandersnatch]

A good friend needs a recommendation on the best 6 inch whacky rigged senko rod for heavy grass. We're fishing in ten feet or less usually and I'm most likely recommending the nrx line up. The max fish size is also around 5lbs.He has the means and we both enjoy higher end gear but if something else makes sense for less thats great. I'd recommend the nrx 893c that I have but I just don't think it's super ideal for getting them turned quick and away from the thick heavy grass. It's easy to lose them as soon as they bury in the grass. I'm wondering what your guys thoughts are? Would the 873crr have enough tip to throw the light senko? I'm think the 894 certainly wouldn't. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

A 6” senko is not light by any means. Any MH or some H rods will cast them no problem. 

[dodgeguy]

I use a 7-6 bps Johnny Morris signature series heavy extra fast action with 50 Sufix 832 braid for that. Have no problem casting 5 inch weightless senko and it will turn any bass around.

[OnthePotomac]

All I have ever used on the Potomac with Senkos is a MH 7' fast tip BPS Carbonlite and never a problem in the big, narly grass beds with a Senko.  Many fish it on spinning rods on the Potomac. The Curado 200K I use has 15lb Invizx on it.

[FishTank]

I use a G. Loomis 844C IMX or GLX for this.  Both have plenty of backbone to get the job done and will cast that heavy piece of plastic a country mile.

[WRB]

I was looking jig rods today and ran across MegaBass 2019 Levante Perfect Pitch rod reviews and from the reports its "perfect".

Tom

 

[JustJames]

You should go with Conquest series rod 905C MBR.

[Bandersnatch]

19 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

You should go with Conquest series rod 905C MBR.

Can you tell me why? 

[Basseditor]

 I am a 6-inch Senko aficionado. I usually rig it T-rig, but I pitch into some knarly cover much like others use jigs. It’s surprising how well it pitches.

 

I use two rods: 7-6 or 7-10 inch Kistler Zbone 5H! 20- and 25-pound flouro. I have super tuned Daiwa reels to make it easy to pitch. I haven’t tried wacky rig, but it should be fine.

 

Plus, it casts very well with these set ups.

[JustJames]

3 hours ago, Cheif250 said:

Can you tell me why? 

Because you and your friend like high end gear and with this conquest 7’6 XH you should have no problem pulling 5lbs bass out of any cover.

And no I don’t have one if I have money like your I would buy all of the conquest series.

[Johnbt]

I was going to suggest a Conquest 844c. That's the 7' heavy fast rod. I have one and it absolutely manhandled a 6# bass up and over six feet of thick weeds two weeks ago. It was my most recent rod purchase and this was my first good-sized fish on it. My buddy was driving my 1648 when it crashed the frog and he started spinning the boat around with the 70# Maxxum. Before he got us halfway turned around and headed over to dig it out of the milfoil/lilypad/mess I had the fish into clear water and halfway back to the boat.

 

I've been fishing a 783c and an 843c for a year or two and landed quite a few similar fish without any drama, but the 844c was more like, "Come here. Now." And I wasn't really horsing it - much - because I was using 20# Yo-Zuri Hybrid. Think of it as finesse fishing with frogs. Okay, I keep saying frog, but it was an unweighted Sizmic Toad on a 3/0 hook.

 

I love Conquest rods. Light, powerfully accurate, and strong. I have an 843s too. I've never tried any of the longer models. Short rods work better for what we normally do... sit and fish small ponds and electric-only lakes. We're old. Retired and lazy anyway. 

 

I keep looking at new bass boats, and buying nice rods and reels instead. But there's a new Vexus dealer about 15 from the house.

 

 

 

[KP Duty]

I'll never disagree with an 844 loomis recommendation.  I use the 844 for beavers on a 3/16oz head on up to frogs.  I do see that the conquest 844 doesnt have the usual 1/4-1oz rating of the glx/imx, but instead shows a 3/8-1oz rating.  

[tim_kovar]

I'd recommend nrx 873 as my first choice for the cover you mention, conquest 844 as a second, and then megabass Orochi xx perfect pitch as a good third option.  I think the 873 would throw 6" senkos just fine, they are a pretty heavy peice of plastic.  I don't think the 893 you mentioned would have enough power in heavy cover to get them out of the over.

[Bandersnatch]

10 hours ago, basseditor said:

 I am a 6-inch Senko aficionado. I usually rig it T-rig, but I pitch into some knarly cover much like others use jigs. It’s surprising how well it pitches.

 

I use two rods: 7-6 or 7-10 inch Kistler Zbone 5H! 20- and 25-pound flouro. I have super tuned Daiwa reels to make it easy to pitch. I haven’t tried wacky rig, but it should be fine.

 

Plus, it casts very well with these set ups.

I've never tried a zbone but really am interested in comparing one to an nrx. The cheap build (however amazing blank) of the H3 kind of turned me off. 

[WRB]

This thread is thicker then the cover. When the rods and reels cost more then boat you know where it's going.

Tom

[LegendaryBassin]

31 minutes ago, WRB said:

This thread is thicker then the cover. When the rods and reels cost more then boat you know where it's going.

Tom

He said they have the means and like high end gear. So let them buy what they like. GLX 844C MBR, GLX/NRX 854C JWR, or NRX 873C CRR would all be phenomenal. 

13 hours ago, WRB said:

I was looking jig rods today and ran across MegaBass 2019 Levante Perfect Pitch rod reviews and from the reports its "perfect".

Tom

 

That rod is not in production.... They aren't even going to available for sale until next year

[WRB]

54 minutes ago, LegendaryBassin said:

He said they have the means and like high end gear. So let them buy what they like. GLX 844C MBR, GLX/NRX 854C JWR, or NRX 873C CRR would all be phenomenal. 

That rod is not in production.... They aren't even going to available for sale until next year

Jan 20 at TW, heavy grass will be hard to find until next summer in the Midwest.

Tom

[Johnbt]

"When the rods and reels cost more then boat you know where it's going."

 

I know that if I hadn't gotten married last November to a widow with a son with a wife and 2 little grandsons I probably would have bought a new Allison locally. Now there's a Vexus dealer, and a marina on James River a mile down the road. I'm 69 now and probably don't need another boat. But she has a 3-car garage...We have a 3-car garage and I have a 103-year-old house to sell in a historic district. It's been paid off since 1997 and I suspect someone is going to spend the proceeds. I hope to get a little of it. A nice boat and a year or two of slip fees would be good.  

 

It's just money. Right?

[WRB]

Health to do what you enjoy is far more important then money spent on toys.

If you have the skills to use the toys go for it, otherwise it's a waste of money as knowone knows what is in their future.

Tom

[Bandersnatch]

2 hours ago, WRB said:

Jan 20 at TW, heavy grass will be hard to find until next summer in the Midwest.

Tom

This is for next summer 

[Bandersnatch]

I was just asking about rods. I'm not sure why someone cares that it's an expensive rod. 

[LegendaryBassin]

3 hours ago, WRB said:

Jan 20 at TW, heavy grass will be hard to find until next summer in the Midwest.

Tom

Jan 20 is next year as I said... Plus, 6 inch senkos are a big bait and if fishing around cover or structure you'll want the power of a 844, 854, 873. The TV and Perfect Pitch are a good value choice though

[LegendaryBassin]

37 minutes ago, Cheif250 said:

I was just asking about rods. I'm not sure why someone cares that it's an expensive rod. 

Exactly. The NRX rods are phenomenal and you can't go wrong with them as they are great bottom contact rods.

[Basseditor]

10 hours ago, Cheif250 said:

I've never tried a zbone but really am interested in comparing one to an nrx. The cheap build (however amazing blank) of the H3 kind of turned me off. 

Too bad you’re so far away. I’d let you try one.

 

In the 5H models, I have 3 of the 7’10” — all 2019 series. Of my 3, 7’6” two are the older LE models and one is the 2019 build. I only have one Helium 3, but it’s 3-4 years old. It looks good to me. Between my adult son and I, we have about 100 Kistlers.

 

I have one 7’11” XH, but I rarely use it. It’s no longer a standard model.

[Bandersnatch]

41 minutes ago, basseditor said:

Too bad you’re so far away. I’d let you try one.

 

In the 5H models, I have 3 of the 7’10” — all 2019 series. Of my 3, 7’6” two are the older LE models and one is the 2019 build. I only have one Helium 3, but it’s 3-4 years old. It looks good to me. Between my adult son and I, we have about 100 Kistlers.

 

I have one 7’11” XH, but I rarely use it. It’s no longer a standard model.

I appreciate that, don't get me wrong my 7'1 MH H3 with an aldebaran on it is one of my favorite things to throw. It'll handle a lot and weighs nothing. Honestly I think I don't use it enough because it feels like a light cover rod due to its weight.