How to flip/pitch for beginners

[Vranes17]

So I have been learning my new baitcast setup and have casting down but now I want to know how to flip/ pitch in those spots from the bank that have limiting room due to tree branch crowding. I've done the setup where I adjust the reel to let the bait fall and hit the ground where the spool stops. Now when I wasn't to flip/pitch how do I set that up? Just loosen the mag force/spool tension? All help is needed/appreciated. 

[Mike L]

That's all I do regardless of the reel. 

I'll set and forget the brakes and adjust the spool tension. 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Catt]

2 minutes ago, Mike L said:

That's all I do regardless of the reel. 

I'll set and forget the brakes and adjust the spool tension. 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

Exactly!  

 

The rest is in your thumb ?

[Vranes17]

Ok cool, I’m still a bit thrown by how the brake system works to prevent backlash, would someone mind explaining how it works and if I should start at 21 setting or 0 , I think to start I tried 21 but I couldn’t cast far so I put it in the middle. I’m able to cast far now but now but about 1 in 10 casts I get backlash either off the bat, mid or end of cast

[F14A-B]

Flipping is close quarters combat. You shouldn't really need brakes..brakes on or off. Doesn't matter. Pitching, yes..

 

Denny Brauer will show you.

 

 

[WRB]

Also look at Gary Klein pitching & flipping instructional video's.

Tom

[Shimano_1]

As already mentioned I set alm my reels the same and leave em. I put a coffee cup in my kitchen and practiced one winter for hours. Once u do it some it'll make sense

[Vranes17]

3 hours ago, Alonerankin2 said:

Flipping is close quarters combat. You shouldn't really need brakes..brakes on or off. Doesn't matter. Pitching, yes..

 

Denny Brauer will show you.

 

 

Dang the video in that thread is no longer available 

[WRB]

Gary Klein, Ultimate flipping and pitching video, may 2015 online.

Keep in mind there is a difference between flipping and pitching, pitching you use your reel, flipping you don't. Few anglers have the tackle needed to properly flip most can use their standard tackle to pitch. You may also want to learn how to side arm roll cast.

Tom

[Catt]

24 minutes ago, Vranes17 said:

Dang the video in that thread is no longer available 

 

It comes up on my phone ?

[Mike L]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

 

Keep in mind there is a difference between flipping and pitching, pitching you use your reel, flipping you don't. Few anglers have the tackle needed to properly flip most can use their standard tackle to pitch. You may also want to learn hoe to side arm roll cast.

Tom

Excellent points that folks need to understand and learn. 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Glaucus]

Set the spool tension absurdly loose and make good use out of your thumb. 

[LionHeart]

Lesson #1:  The technique you are referring to is called pitching,  not flipping/pitching.  Those are two entirely different techniques.   

 

Lesson #2:  If you hear someone else say it incorrectly,  educate them on the difference.   No matter how many kids on YouTube say flipping/ pitching,  it ain't correct.   Let's get this thing turned around. 

 

Lesson #3:  I wouldn't recommend setting up your pitching reel any differently than you would use it for casting.  A big part of pitching accurately requires you to properly train your thumb.   Setting your brakes or spool friction higher than normal will slow your learning.   It's best to 'train the way you fight.'

 

Remember, you are using a baitcaster reel, so going for distance is never a good idea while learning to cast regardless.  Same goes for pitching.  You need to be focusing on when to ease thumb pressure during the 'release' portion of the pitch and not much else.

 

Start off by making easy peasy smooth pitches.  If your lure only goes 20 ft. you are doing it right.

[fishwizzard]

21 hours ago, Vranes17 said:

Ok cool, I’m still a bit thrown by how the brake system works to prevent backlash, would someone mind explaining how it works and if I should start at 21 setting or 0 , I think to start I tried 21 but I couldn’t cast far so I put it in the middle. I’m able to cast far now but now but about 1 in 10 casts I get backlash either off the bat, mid or end of cast

 

Generally, you want to keep the spool tension as low as you can stand it, the higher it is the harder you have to cast to get the spool spinning, and the harder you cast the more likely the reel is to backlash.  The backlashes will also be worse the harder you are casting. 

 

Start with the brakes at max and lower them a little every cast until you are getting the distance you want with a smooth, easy casting stroke.  Never let a cast end on it’s own, always use your thumb to slow and then stop the lure, even if you don’t “need” too.  This is the fastest way to build thumb skill.  

[Vranes17]

1 hour ago, fishwizzard said:

 

Generally, you want to keep the spool tension as low as you can stand it, the higher it is the harder you have to cast to get the spool spinning, and the harder you cast the more likely the reel is to backlash.  The backlashes will also be worse the harder you are casting. 

 

Start with the brakes at max and lower them a little every cast until you are getting the distance you want with a smooth, easy casting stroke.  Never let a cast end on it’s own, always use your thumb to slow and then stop the lure, even if you don’t “need” too.  This is the fastest way to build thumb skill.  

Ok cool then I’ve been doing it right last few days TY

[Shimano_1]

I've always called it flippin a jig and figure most people understand.  Maybe not the correct terminology but I'm from ky so its expected right? Lol

[roadwarrior]

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