Presentation - Key to getting bit

[James Niggemeyer]

Hey BR,

 

Recently went to a local lake and bites were more presentation specific than normal, so I uploaded a video talking about a couple things that worked on that day.  Love hearing about how guys have triggered strikes in interesting ways and how important it was to getting bit on a given day, so please share some if you like.  Hope you like the video!

 

 

[Luke Barnes]

That was a really great video. I learned for sure

 I always thought slowing down and downsizing was key but what you said and showed makes sense!!! Make them decide and not have a chance to really look at that lure before committing. Awesome!

[Paul Roberts]

"Vision-inhibiting"; Rarely hear anyone mention that often critical part of triggering, esp in high vis conditions or circumstances.

[Derek1]

Good vid, thanks for sharing 

[Todd2]

12 hours ago, Luke Barnes said:

 

 I always thought slowing down and downsizing was key but what you said and showed makes sense!!! 

Yeah, slowing down is usually what I do when the bite gets tough and often forget about speeding up. It seems counter intuitive but it works sometimes. Great video.

[Luke Barnes]

1 hour ago, Todd2 said:

Yeah, slowing down is usually what I do when the bite gets tough and often forget about speeding up. It seems counter intuitive but it works sometimes. Great video.

I usually slow roll a spinnerbait when uts tough. But it gives them to see it's fake. The more you know!!

[James Niggemeyer]

On 9/30/2019 at 7:31 PM, Luke Barnes said:

That was a really great video. I learned for sure

 I always thought slowing down and downsizing was key but what you said and showed makes sense!!! Make them decide and not have a chance to really look at that lure before committing. Awesome!

Thanks Barnes glad you like it!  Definitely downsizing works, but it pays to try different things until you find out what they react to...  Appreciate the feedback!

On 9/30/2019 at 9:27 PM, Paul Roberts said:

"Vision-inhibiting"; Rarely hear anyone mention that often critical part of triggering, esp in high vis conditions or circumstances.

I heard Larry Nixon once say if you could hide that bait from them until it’s right in front of them you have a much better chance of getting them to bite.   I’ve found that to be very true!

[Luke Barnes]

I'm guessing this is for decently heavy cover. Open water they could see it coming from a ways off. But cover or heavy stained water I'm definitely going to try it. I bet the same principle applies to swimbaits too.

[James Niggemeyer]

18 hours ago, Luke Barnes said:

I'm guessing this is for decently heavy cover. Open water they could see it coming from a ways off. But cover or heavy stained water I'm definitely going to try it. I bet the same principle applies to swimbaits too.

Works well in clear water with isolated cover too. With a single boulder, stump or dock piling fish will generally position on the shaded as well as downstream of current. If you can present the bait in manner where the fish can’t see it due to its position in relation to cover the same thing can produce bites. Generally speed is key.

[OCdockskipper]

1 hour ago, James Niggemeyer said:

Works well in clear water with isolated cover too. With a single boulder, stump or dock piling fish will generally position on the shaded as well as downstream of current. If you can present the bait in manner where the fish can’t see it due to its position in relation to cover the same thing can produce bites. Generally speed is key.

I believe Rick Clunn won a US Open on Lake Mead using that philosophy.  The water had 20 plus feet of visibility, some bass were holding in isolated scrub brush (imagine just a few short branches).  The anglers could see the bass, but getting them to bite was difficult.  Clunn got them to bite by bringing a spinnerbait up to them from positions where they couldn't see the bait until it was on them. 

 

If you can imagine it from the fish's perspective, they feel some thumping caused by the spinnerbaits blades, but don't see anything until suddenly there is a flash of blades & skirt right in front of them.  That would make them strike out of hunger, territory or even fear!

[Luke Barnes]

4 hours ago, James Niggemeyer said:

Works well in clear water with isolated cover too. With a single boulder, stump or dock piling fish will generally position on the shaded as well as downstream of current. If you can present the bait in manner where the fish can’t see it due to its position in relation to cover the same thing can produce bites. Generally speed is key.

That makes so much sense!!!! That's why you're a pro and I'm not Haha. 

 

It's been a few days and I dont remember if you talked about it or not, but what line do you use when throwing a chatterbait?

[geo g]

Nice video, it sure gets you thinking.  Reaction bites are sure a possibility under those conditions.  Once on a shallow clear flat with lots of scattered cover, the only way I could get a bite was with a fluke with long hard jerks constantly moving.  Slowing down got you nothing.  They wanted it ripping.  Thanks for refreshing my memory my friend.  I have a tendency to always slow it down, not always good.

[WRB]

2 forgotten lures for Shad feeding bass; Strike King Rocket Shad designed to be burned and Schurmy's spoon. The Schurmy Shad is a hollow aluminum spoon the looks like a structure spoon but is a shallow running Shad spoon that is very effective when are feeding schools of shallow Shad. 

The situation in the video with patches of weed cover a 1/2 oz silver Nemire weedless Red Ripper spoon is my go to lure.

If the bass are spooked by noisy lures coming from behind them, and they usually are, changing angles works so they see it coming from one side.

Tom

 

[James Niggemeyer]

12 hours ago, WRB said:

2 forgotten lures for Shad feeding bass; Strike King Rocket Shad designed to be burned and Schurmy's spoon. The Schurmy Shad is a hollow aluminum spoon the looks like a structure spoon but is a shallow running Shad spoon that is very effective when are feeding schools of shallow Shad. 

The situation in the video with patches of weed cover a 1/2 oz silver Nemire weedless Red Ripper spoon is my go to lure.

If the bass are spooked by noisy lures coming from behind them, and they usually are, changing angles works so they see it coming from one side.

Tom

 

Good stuff!

On 10/9/2019 at 3:01 PM, Luke Barnes said:

That makes so much sense!!!! That's why you're a pro and I'm not Haha. 

 

It's been a few days and I dont remember if you talked about it or not, but what line do you use when throwing a chatterbait?

 I’ve done really well over the years with 16 pound gamma Flourocarbon with all my bladed jigs (thunder cricket)

[Luke Barnes]

I was debating for a while putting fluorocarbon on one of mine but decided on copolymer that's fluoro coated. I've yet to try a thunder cricket, but I've had luck with the SK Rage Blade. 

[James Niggemeyer]

On October 13, 2019 at 7:34 PM, WRB said:

2 forgotten lures for Shad feeding bass; Strike King Rocket Shad designed to be burned and Schurmy's spoon. The Schurmy Shad is a hollow aluminum spoon the looks like a structure spoon but is a shallow running Shad spoon that is very effective when are feeding schools of shallow Shad. 

The situation in the video with patches of weed cover a 1/2 oz silver Nemire weedless Red Ripper spoon is my go to lure.

If the bass are spooked by noisy lures coming from behind them, and they usually are, changing angles works so they see it coming from one side.

Tom

 

The Schurmy Shad...got a couple of those around here some where. LOL  I'm a So Cal native but call Teas home now...LOTS of memories on Castaic and Casitas!!   Great stuff thanks for sharing.

[scaleface]

On 10/13/2019 at 7:34 PM, WRB said:

2 forgotten lures for Shad feeding bass; Strike King Rocket Shad designed to be burned

I have lost several nice bass with the Rocket Shad because the double hook worked its way off the lure  during the fight . Now I wrap wire around the shank .

[James Niggemeyer]

Good idea!

[Catt]

On 10/7/2019 at 7:32 AM, James Niggemeyer said:

I heard Larry Nixon once say if you could hide that bait from them until it’s right in front of them you have a much better chance of getting them to bite.   I’ve found that to be very true!

 

That's what makes flipping-n-pitching-punching so effective.