Considering trying flouro

[Bandersnatch]

I've been a 100% braid guy from the get go including braid to leader for a lot of applications. I'm considering trying straight flouro on my 893/bantam mgl jig rod because I just haven't done it before. I've also had a few leader knot failures and wouldn't mind not having to deal with the knot going through guides. If I did spool one reel up it will most likely be tatsu unless anybody has suggestions on a better no fuss line. 

 

A couple questions

 

* what line size will be the most versatile? I'll be throwing jigs but I'll throw a bunch of stuff on that rod including a six inch senko, 15lb tatsu? 

*Do I need to do anything special when putting it on the reel? 

*Will I notice much sensitivity loss switching from braid to leader? 

[roadwarrior]

Tatsu #12 will spoil you

 

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[Bandersnatch]

6 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

Tatsu #12 will spoil you

 

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Any concerns with 12 on my setup fishing around grass? 1/2 ounce and under jig hooksets won't be a problem? 

[roadwarrior]

No problemo.

[FishTank]

Just now, Cheif250 said:

Any concerns with 12 on my setup fishing around grass? 1/2 ounce and under jig hooksets won't be a problem? 

I used a spool of 12lb for almost 3 years for jigs and soft plastic around rocks, trees, stumps, and grass.  I never had to re-spool.  The line just finally wore out.  I did use a little mono backing so I could spool up two reels with with it.   I would say this is the best line I have ever used.  As far sensitivity goes, it is pretty amazing.  

[Bandersnatch]

7 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

No problemo.

Thank you. I'm now excited. On the sensitivity thing, do you notice much difference? 

2 minutes ago, FishTank said:

I used a spool of 12lb for almost 3 years for jigs and soft plastic around rocks, trees, stumps, and grass.  I never had to re-spool.  The line just finally wore out.  I did use a little mono backing so I could spool up two reels with with it.   I would say this is the best line I have ever used.  As far sensitivity goes, it is pretty amazing.  

Thank you

[Junger]

I like fluoro for jig type fishing where line belly can be annoying. For moving baits and heavy cover like pads, hydrilla, I use braid.

[WRB]

Your reel holds 110 yards of whatever Shimano considers 12 lb line dia is. All premium FC line are smaller dia then the average 12 mono, meaning your reel should hold about 120 yards of 12 lb FC. Tatsu comes in 200 yard spools, you may want to use some of the old line for backing.

FC line including Tatsu has a tendency to spring off the reel spool unless line conditioner is added. As far as sensitivity Tatsu isn't superior to to other premium FC line. Tatsu is superior in overall performance.

Tom

[NHBull]

12#Tatsu is the most manageable FC, but there are more than just a few equally as sensitive.....shooter and sniper to name a couple

[FryDog62]

2 hours ago, NHBull said:

12#Tatsu is the most manageable FC, but there are more than just a few equally as sensitive.....shooter and sniper to name a couple

Sniper is 95% of whatever Tatsu is for half the price.  But if you have disposable scratch buy Tatsu... 

[Russ E]

22 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

Sniper is 95% of whatever Tatsu is for half the price.  But if you have disposable scratch buy Tatsu... 

This^^.

Sniper is my go to fluorocarbon line.

i used Tatsu on 2 reels for one season. it is good line, but honestly I did not see enough advantage over sniper to justify the price.

[NorthernBasser]

I use 16 lb Sniper for my jigs and Texas Rigs and have no complaints. 

[Scrapiron]

I did the same recently- try Fluro after being a braid to leader guy. So far I’m enjoying the switch.

 

Bit the bullet and went with Tatsu- 15# on on rod and 8# on another (both baitcasters). Use spray/lube before each trip and have only had one over-run which was my fault (not paying attention).

 

I’ve got some 16# Sniper but find the Tatsu more manageable.  

[Preytorien]

On 9/28/2019 at 2:43 PM, roadwarrior said:

Tatsu #12 will spoil you

 

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I agree, I've tried the others, and I can say with confidence, save your nickels and dimes and splurge for the Tatsu. It won't disappoint you.

[NorthernBasser]

For the cost of Tatsu, you shouldn't have to use line conditioner. 

[Team9nine]

43 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

For the cost of Tatsu, you shouldn't have to use line conditioner. 

You don't have to. You just need to become a more experienced caster 

[NorthernBasser]

1 hour ago, Team9nine said:

You don't have to. You just need to become a more experienced caster 

 

FTR, I've never tried Tatsu. Just referencing people who mention using line conditioner with it. 

[Team9nine]

8 hours ago, NorthernBasser said:

 

FTR, I've never tried Tatsu. Just referencing people who mention using line conditioner with it. 

Not  “talkin’ to you” specifically - lol. Like you, just referencing that same group of people.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

On 9/28/2019 at 1:50 PM, Cheif250 said:

Any concerns with 12 on my setup fishing around grass? 1/2 ounce and under jig hooksets won't be a problem? 

The stretch is going to be the most noticeable difference. Hated 10 and 12 pound on bottom presentations went to 16 pound and that is bearable. You might need a little more oomph on your hookset than what was needed with braid. You will work a little more getting the jig through weeds rocks stuff in the way as well.

[LegendaryBassin]

On 9/28/2019 at 9:31 PM, WRB said:

Your reel holds 110 yards of whatever Shimano considers 12 lb line dia is. All premium FC line are smaller dia then the average 12 mono, meaning your reel should hold about 120 yards of 12 lb FC. Tatsu comes in 200 yard spools, you may want to use some of the old line for backing.

FC line including Tatsu has a tendency to spring off the reel spool unless line conditioner is added. As far as sensitivity Tatsu isn't superior to to other premium FC line. Tatsu is superior in overall performance.

Tom

Line conditioner is not needed. But is beneficial on higher memory lines due to the stiffness. I don't use line conditioner on Tatsu, Sunline Super FC, Seaguar Invizx, Gamma Edge, and a couple others. Yes tatsu is among the top fluorocarbon lines in terms of sensitivity. Shooter, Sniper, and Tatsu are among the best. In terms of overall best lines Gamma Edge and Seaguar Tatsu reign supreme. 

[WRB]

3 hours ago, LegendaryBassin said:

Line conditioner is not needed. But is beneficial on higher memory lines due to the stiffness. I don't use line conditioner on Tatsu, Sunline Super FC, Seaguar Invizx, Gamma Edge, and a couple others. Yes tatsu is among the top fluorocarbon lines in terms of sensitivity. Shooter, Sniper, and Tatsu are among the best. In terms of overall best lines Gamma Edge and Seaguar Tatsu reign supreme. 

FI have only been using FC line the mid 90's bass fishing, earlier off shore big game fishing.

FC line doesn't hold any moisture and sheds water, line conditioner allows FC line to moisten the surface. Dry line in in hor Dry climates wherecI fish is nearly impossible to cast do to it's memory. Adding moisture to FC is essential to manage it.

In regards to what brand is better than others is a personal experience factor. Tatsu is Seaguar top of the line offering. I started with Sunline Shooter FC  in '93 followed by Sniper when it was introduced in lower lb test then Shooter for finesse spinning.

When Shooter price point increased from $35 for 300 meters to $35 for 100 meters. I tried Tatsu when it first was introduced @ $45 for 200 yards. Both Shooter and Tatsu have equal knot strength per diameter line, about 80% label lb test tying perfect knots with the load rate equal to hook sets. I consider Tatsu and Shooter equal in nearly every performance criteria.

Toray Solaroam Bass Hi Class is another good quality FC line with less memory and higher knot strength then either Tatsu or Shooter/Sniper it until the price went from $35 for 100 meters to $35 for 86 yards and became difficult to find.

I have tried nearly every premium FC over the past 25 years and they all have the same marginal knot strength issues breaking at random moments.

Tom

PS, Gamma Edge is over size per lb test then Seaguar or Sunline, always evaluate line by diameter.

[LegendaryBassin]

51 minutes ago, WRB said:

FI have only been using FC line the mid 90's bass fishing, earlier off shore big game fishing.

FC line doesn't hold any moisture and sheds water, line conditioner allows FC line to moisten the surface. Dry line in in hor Dry climates wherecI fish is nearly impossible to cast do to it's memory. Adding moisture to FC is essential to manage it.

In regards to what brand is better than others is a personal experience factor. Tatsu is Seaguar top of the line offering. I started with Sunline Shooter FC  in '93 followed by Sniper when it was introduced in lower lb test then Shooter for finesse spinning.

When Shooter price point increased from $35 for 300 meters to $35 for 100 meters. I tried Tatsu when it first was introduced @ $45 for 200 yards. Both Shooter and Tatsu have equal knot strength per diameter line, about 80% label lb test tying perfect knots with the load rate equal to hook sets. I consider Tatsu and Shooter equal in nearly every performance criteria.

Toray Solaroam Bass Hi Class is another good quality FC line with less memory and higher knot strength then either Tatsu or Shooter/Sniper it until the price went from $35 for 100 meters to $35 for 86 yards and became difficult to find.

I have tried nearly every premium FC over the past 25 years and they all have the same marginal knot strength issues breaking at random moments.

Tom

PS, Gamma Edge is over size per lb test then Seaguar or Sunline, always evaluate line by diameter.

Never used line conditioner and I throw super fc, sniper, invizx, tatsu, and gamma. No problems at all. I am aware of Gammas line diameter but I wasn't evaluating any line by diameter so no idea what that reference was to. 

[Shimano_1]

I wouldn't attempt fishing a jig or t rig around grass with 12 lb. I've broke 15 lb a few times on hooksets. Moved up to 20 for this rod and haven't broken off since. Weight of the fish, power of you swinging, grass rubbing the line all simultaneously =bad things for small line in my opinion 

[pauldconyers]

On 9/28/2019 at 11:15 PM, Russ E said:

This^^.

Sniper is my go to fluorocarbon line.

i used Tatsu on 2 reels for one season. it is good line, but honestly I did not see enough advantage over sniper to justify the price.

Hmm, for some reason I was thinking you were an InvizX guy

[WRB]

The bottom line with FC 95% of the bass caught are under 4 lbs by every member on this or any other bass fishing forum. The vast majority of bass caught are under 3 lbs, yet bass anglers believe they need line lb test 300% heavier then the bass they catch.

If you use 12 lb FC with 10 lb knot strength you should be able to hook and land any bass you catch, unless that bass exceeds your line lb test.

I get good hook sets at 40 yards using 10 to 12 lb mono and FC using jigs 3/8 to 3/4 oz.

It's not the line strength, it's your ability and skill to detect strikes, hook and control the bass.

The only reason anyone needs braid is the line cuts through aquatic plant and heavy cover the bass tends to tangle line around. The bass isn't stronge enough to break the line, you break the line trying to pull the fish out of cover.

Use whatever FC you have confidence tying your lure or hook onto.

My pet peeve with line mfr's is line diameter verses lb test rating. Labeling .013 dia line 10 lb test when it's 15 lb test so anglers think it's stronge line. Bass anglers accepting the labeling as thick line vs thin line is beyond my comprehension.

Peace,

Tom