Super User king fisher Posted September 28, 2019 Super User Posted September 28, 2019 I have been fishing bait casters for years mostly Shimano and Ambassadors. Recently I purchased my first Diawa, and liked it so much I bought two more, two Tatula CT and one Coastal. I have cast one of them almost every day for the past few months. I have found, when maximum distance casting, I feel I have to break with my thumb, much more in the first third of my cast and less towards the end than the other brands of reels I have owned. My other reels I rarely use my thumb in the beginning, but always thumb the spool towards the end. Doesn't bother me at all now that I'm used to it, very happy with the distance I get. I was just curious if anyone else feels this way, or if it is just my casting style, and or imagination. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted September 28, 2019 Super User Posted September 28, 2019 It's not your imagination, just the nature of the braking system. However, you may notice over time that if you adjust your stroke, meaning less whip, you'll need very little thumb in the beginning and just a touch about a 3rd of the cast and then at touchdown. It took me a while to figure this out. Also, a bit more of a lure drop down from the tip than I was used to and feeling how that loads the rod differently was the adjustment I made compared to centrifugally braked reels. So I ended up doing more of a power casting sweep/stroke with my Daiwas and less of a whip than I do with my Shimanos. Now that it's become second nature I generally prefer Daiwas with Magforce-Z. I'm still happy to use my other reels though! Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted September 28, 2019 Super User Posted September 28, 2019 I also found out that trying to "whip" a lure way out there is not a good thing..I was use to Shimano reels for years, took me a while to figure out the magnetic brakes, but once you do, I think they work just fine. I have 4 diawa, and 1 shimano. Have pay attention when I grab a rod with the tatula reel on it..haha. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 28, 2019 Super User Posted September 28, 2019 I had to make that same adjustment going from an old Abu to my Fuego. The Magforce-Z system is even different enough from my Pflueger President that I have to shift it in my head when casting. That said, I think my next reel purchase will be another Fuego. Quote
Super User king fisher Posted September 28, 2019 Author Super User Posted September 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, PhishLI said: It's not your imagination, just the nature of the braking system. However, you may notice over time that if you adjust your stroke, meaning less whip, you'll need very little thumb in the beginning and just a touch about a 3rd of the cast and then at touchdown. It took me a while to figure this out. Also, a bit more of a lure drop down from the tip than I was used to and feeling how that loads the rod differently was the adjustment I made compared to centrifugally braked reels. So I ended up doing more of a power casting sweep/stroke with my Daiwas and less of a whip than I do with my Shimanos. Now that it's become second nature I generally prefer Daiwas with Magforce-Z. I'm still happy to use my other reels though! Glad to know it's not just me. It has become second nature to add a touch of thumb early in the cast. Quote
Super User king fisher Posted September 28, 2019 Author Super User Posted September 28, 2019 When I first got my CT I thought I was an expert caster and wound't need to use the mag brake at all. I set the mag brake on 0 adjusted the spool tension to just a little play, and tried to cast a three ounce lure with a nine foot rod as hard as possible. Definitely was my longest cast, to bad the line didn't stay attached to the lure, which I had to paddle a surf board out to retrieve. Discovered an easy way to get a backlash undone. Process involves a sharp knife and a garbage can. Surprised there are no Utube videos of this can't fail method to undue a backlash. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted September 28, 2019 Super User Posted September 28, 2019 36 minutes ago, king fisher said: When I first got my CT I thought I was an expert caster and wound't need to use the mag brake at all. I set the mag brake on 0 adjusted the spool tension to just a little play, and tried to cast a three ounce lure with a nine foot rod as hard as possible. Definitely was my longest cast, to bad the line didn't stay attached to the lure, which I had to paddle a surf board out to retrieve. Discovered an easy way to get a backlash undone. Process involves a sharp knife and a garbage can. Surprised there are no Utube videos of this can't fail method to undue a backlash. I've done that before........................but not on purpose. I prefer scissors. Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 28, 2019 Super User Posted September 28, 2019 Who would back off the brakes, loosen the spool tension know and cast a 3 oz weight with a 9' rod? Knowone. There are good video's showing how to wind over a backlash to remove it in lieu of pulling and cutting. Using a trained thumb is essential to becoming a skilled bait caster, brakes can only aide you in casting, the rest comes from skill and practice. Tom Quote
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