Deep cranking rod

[WRB]

Couple of observations.

Glass cranking rods are not what a few members have suggested being heavy or vibration absorbing, far from it. Glass is a term used for composite glass reinforced graphite sometime referred to as E glass. The advantage is rod loading similar to a moderate action to swimbait to enhance casting. The rod tip still has a lot of lure feedback movement to detect strikes.

Deep diving crankbaits that dive deeper then 18' can weigh between 1 1/4 to 2 oz. 

SK 10XD being the top end size lure. Deep divers between 3/4-1 oz can be effectively cast and retrieved with heavy rate crank bait rods, the 10XD overwhelms most H rated rods and may require XH to cast and retrieve effectively.

Todays trend is longer rods however a 7' crankbait rod is functional, longer is a choice not a necessity.

Tom 

[jimmyjoe]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

Glass is a term used for composite glass reinforced graphite sometime referred to as E glass.

   I had thought that E-glass was FRP, or Fiberglass Reinforced Polymer, as was S-glass. When carbon tape was added, it was my impression that you now called it "composite". I know that there's at least one manufacturer who gets the terms mixed up, and I also know that composite has some real advantages. But strictly speaking, E-glass and S-glass have no carbon associated with them.    jj

[WRB]

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

   I had thought that E-glass was FRP, or Fiberglass Reinforced Polymer, as was S-glass. When carbon tape was added, it was my impression that you now called it "composite". I know that there's at least one manufacturer who gets the terms mixed up, and I also know that composite has some real advantages. But strictly speaking, E-glass and S-glass have no carbon associated with them.    jj

Composite would be the correct term. In the aerospace business we often blend carbon and glass fibers into engineering thermoplastics under the term composite when it's actually reinforced plastic. The reason being plastic had a history of being fragile.

My point is glass "composite" rods can be light weight with sensitive feedback.

Peace,

Tom

 

[jimmyjoe]

11 minutes ago, WRB said:

My point is glass "composite" rods can be light weight with sensitive feedback.

   Your point is correct.      jj

[Matt_3479]

7 hours ago, DanielG said:

I don't know much about cross border buying but I went to tackle warehouse and they seem to have all the rods (I looked at Dobyn's) and there is a page (link at the bottom) about international shipping. They seem to accommodate that. Maybe I missed something.

I believe you are correct sir. But I’m not interested in purchasing from an American store for the point of warranty, if something happens during shipping, exchange rates, duty fees and purchasing online eliminates the chance for me to handle it first before making the purchase. And so for those reasons, dobyns is out. 

6 hours ago, WRB said:

Couple of observations.

Glass cranking rods are not what a few members have suggested being heavy or vibration absorbing, far from it. Glass is a term used for composite glass reinforced graphite sometime referred to as E glass. The advantage is rod loading similar to a moderate action to swimbait to enhance casting. The rod tip still has a lot of lure feedback movement to detect strikes.

Deep diving crankbaits that dive deeper then 18' can weigh between 1 1/4 to 2 oz. 

SK 10XD being the top end size lure. Deep divers between 3/4-1 oz can be effectively cast and retrieved with heavy rate crank bait rods, the 10XD overwhelms most H rated rods and may require XH to cast and retrieve effectively.

Todays trend is longer rods however a 7' crankbait rod is functional, longer is a choice not a necessity.

Tom 

Thank you sir, that was very informative! I’m not out on glass rods just never owned one. The more I think about it the less a longer rod bothers me 7’6”+ to a degree (over 8’ would be too much). See since I’m brand new to the deep diving crank bait work I’d like a rod that will be the most universal for me to try until  inevitably purchasing more to handle different depths. My squarebill/lipless rod will cover me to like maybe 8-10’ which is my imx pro 845c cbr. And I’d like to just try from that point down. I’ve heard so many good things about the zodias 7’6” glass being so universal (sure not ideal for the 10xd) but could handle it okay. The launcher looks to be more set up for the heavier deeper side of things though. 

[WRB]

845CB should handle Norman DD22 a good deep diver to test your rod with.

SK 8XD is another heavy high water resistant deep diver that pushes the limit of most 6 power heavy CB rods.

Berkley Dredge series crank baits have less water resistance and work with standard heavy CB rods.

Dobyns, email or phone Gary he maybe willing to help you with trail rod and locating a rod nearby.

I use My Irod IRG754F for both 8 & 10XD, not ideal but works OK

Tom

[DanielG]

1 hour ago, Matt_3479 said:

I believe you are correct sir. But I’m not interested in purchasing from an American store for the point of warranty, if something happens during shipping, exchange rates, duty fees and purchasing online eliminates the chance for me to handle it first before making the purchase. And so for those reasons, dobyns is out. 

 

Ah, I see. Didn't know the circumstances. Well good luck finding the one you want. I'll be interested in which one you finally settle on.