Matt_3479 Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Looking at getting into deep cranking. Now that’s hunting seasons around fishing is going be a little slow for me but looking at getting it soon to make sure I have it for next season. Reel will be curado k or bantam mgl depending on budget. Never fished deep cranks so looking to try almost everything and anything! Looking at imx pro 906c, zodias 7’6” mh glass, or even considering a launcher but due to length it’s bottom of the list! Any recommendations Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 23, 2019 Super User Posted September 23, 2019 If you don't want the length, I have both Okuma EVX Cranking sticks, and the MH would suit you well. They a perfect moderate taper for cranks, and since they're graphite they're light and sensitive. Quote
Bassattackr Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 A similar rod and another alternative is the Alpha Angler Mag Rebound, also a glass rod. 7'6" MH, moderate. Dobyns also makes good glass rods. Good luck! Quote
Matt_3479 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, J Francho said: If you don't want the length, I have both Okuma EVX Cranking sticks, and the MH would suit you well. They a perfect moderate taper for cranks, and since they're graphite they're light and sensitive. Well I’ve never owned a rod over 7’6” and the launcher is 7’11”. Never even fished one and I know my rod locker is limited to space and the 7’6” rods are getting there so not sure how well if at all the launcher would fit, that’s the reason it’s at the bottom of the list Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted September 24, 2019 Super User Posted September 24, 2019 Be cautious about getting a glass rod. Some people love them, and some people find out they hate them after they buy them. Try one (or more) out before buying, if possible. Don't take this as a condemnation of glass rods. It's not. I learned on glass, and I'm comfortable with it. I'm just saying that you should make sure that you're comfortable with it, too. Otherwise, look into the rods that @J Francho mentioned. Good luck, and I hope you get something that you really like! jj Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted September 24, 2019 Super User Posted September 24, 2019 The Dobyns Champion 765 I've had for years has been very nice but more recently I find myself leaning towards using the '19 Levante EMTF or Curado 7'8" MH crankbait rod. I've been eyeing that 906 for a while but just can't talk myself into needing another crankbait rod, and Matt Allen seems to love that 7'6" Zodias… you're not going to lose with any of these or the other recommendations already mentioned. Quote
Matt_3479 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Posted September 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said: Be cautious about getting a glass rod. Some people love them, and some people find out they hate them after they buy them. Try one (or more) out before buying, if possible. Don't take this as a condemnation of glass rods. It's not. I learned on glass, and I'm comfortable with it. I'm just saying that you should make sure that you're comfortable with it, too. Otherwise, look into the rods that @J Francho mentioned. Good luck, and I hope you get something that you really like! jj Thank you, best I can do is get my hands on glass but unfortunately I don’t know any other avid fisherman. Im pretty much on my own for this so won’t be able to try glass. I opted against glass for my squarebill/lipless rod for that reason and absolutely love my imx pro 845c cbr. I’ve landed more Crankbait fish with this rod then any other rod I’ve fished them with, and is what changed my mind on Crankbait fishing. Now I want to try deep cranking whats the reason a lot of people don’t like glass other then weight? I know one guy that ive purchased my high end rods from before loves the megabass launcher for deep water cranks and had one for sale not too long ago, and he’s fished most every offering from loomis and shimano and prefers megabass for there cranking rods. Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted September 24, 2019 Super User Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matt_3479 said: whats the reason a lot of people don’t like glass other then weight? Yeah, weight is right up there. But fiberglass is "dead". In other words, it absorbs vibration. Some people are addicted to the sensitivity of graphite, and the dead feeling of glass drives them nuts. If you use braid, it gets better, but I personally think that using braid on a moderate-action rod re-introduces problems with keeping the treble hooks pinned. You might feel differently. jj Quote
Super User FishTank Posted September 24, 2019 Super User Posted September 24, 2019 I have been using a 7'2'' M Mod. St. Croix Legend Glass since the beginning of this year and so far it has been the best cranking rod I have ever used. I have paired it with a Curado DC. I can bomb a 3/8oz crankbait a mile with this thing. It loads perfectly. It also has the correct balance of softness and backbone you want in a crankbait rod and a little bit, but not too much, of that just right sensitivity. I can't recommend this set up enough. Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted September 24, 2019 Super User Posted September 24, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 2:21 PM, Matt_3479 said: Well I’ve never owned a rod over 7’6” and the launcher is 7’11”. Never even fished one and I know my rod locker is limited to space and the 7’6” rods are getting there so not sure how well if at all the launcher would fit, that’s the reason it’s at the bottom of the list You talking about the iRod Genesis II Fred's Crank Launcher? It has a removable handle so it can fit in shorter rod lockers. I was looking at a new deep cranking setup last month but didn't wanna break the bank since it's a technique I don't spend a TON of time on. Here's what I went with and couldn't be happier. The Lew's reel is butter smooth and casts like a rocket. I recommend the 5.1:1. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lews_BB-1_Speed_Spool_Casting_Reel/descpage-BBOC.html (It's actually $129.99 at Sportsman's Outfitters) https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lews_Custom_Speed_Stick_Crankbait_Casting_Rods/descpage-LCSC.html (I got the 7'6". It says medium in the link description but it's actually a med-heavy) Quote
johnD. Posted September 24, 2019 Posted September 24, 2019 They sell a low ratio Bantam MGL PG (5:5:1) on the JDM sites. 7'6 Zodias is a good stick. If you are throwing baits for 19' and beyond I'd recommend something 7'6 to 8'.. Tatula 150P , and a Ehler 8' Tatula Elite is another good combo. Quote
WPCfishing Posted September 24, 2019 Posted September 24, 2019 9 hours ago, J Francho said: If you don't want the length, I have both Okuma EVX Cranking sticks, and the MH would suit you well. They a perfect moderate taper for cranks, and since they're graphite they're light and sensitive. I could definitely see myself buying that rod. I like the Okuma rods I recently purchased. Light, cast great, plenty of hook setting power. I’m hooked! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 24, 2019 Super User Posted September 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Matt_3479 said: Thank you, best I can do is get my hands on glass but unfortunately I don’t know any other avid fisherman. Im pretty much on my own for this so won’t be able to try glass. I opted against glass for my squarebill/lipless rod for that reason and absolutely love my imx pro 845c cbr. I’ve landed more Crankbait fish with this rod then any other rod I’ve fished them with, and is what changed my mind on Crankbait fishing. Now I want to try deep cranking whats the reason a lot of people don’t like glass other then weight? I know one guy that ive purchased my high end rods from before loves the megabass launcher for deep water cranks and had one for sale not too long ago, and he’s fished most every offering from loomis and shimano and prefers megabass for there cranking rods. I don't like glass because of the weight, the size, and it feels like fishing with a wet noodle. I have a Pinnacle DHC5 7-11 graphite if I want to really launch lures, but it's a bit of a pain at that length to transport. I have to go through the doorway carefully, load it in the truck or kayak hull, it even has a special rod sleeve. Never mind it has micro guides, which I'm also not fond of. It's really a novelty to me, not like my 8' swimbait rods that I have no issue making accommodations for since they are so useful to me. They aren't one trick ponies like the big cranking stick. Quote
Matt_3479 Posted September 24, 2019 Author Posted September 24, 2019 8 hours ago, NorthernBasser said: You talking about the iRod Genesis II Fred's Crank Launcher? It has a removable handle so it can fit in shorter rod lockers. I was looking at a new deep cranking setup last month but didn't wanna break the bank since it's a technique I don't spend a TON of time on. Here's what I went with and couldn't be happier. The Lew's reel is butter smooth and casts like a rocket. I recommend the 5.1:1. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lews_BB-1_Speed_Spool_Casting_Reel/descpage-BBOC.html (It's actually $129.99 at Sportsman's Outfitters) https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Lews_Custom_Speed_Stick_Crankbait_Casting_Rods/descpage-LCSC.html (I got the 7'6". It says medium in the link description but it's actually a med-heavy) No sorry didn’t realize there was 2 launchers, I’m talking about the megabass orochi xx launcher Quote
Bassattackr Posted September 24, 2019 Posted September 24, 2019 Most glass rods nowadays are pretty close to graphite sticks in weight. Older ones, yes more dead/heavy block of wood but newer ones are impressive. Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted September 24, 2019 Super User Posted September 24, 2019 Can you say composite ? Quote
gilkeybr Posted September 24, 2019 Posted September 24, 2019 I have the OG Levante Launcher and it separates just above the reel nut into two pieces, shortening it by a good 18". Not sure if the Orochiis are the same or not, but that would allow it to fit into your rod locker. I love my Launcher, the mod-fast action is really nice for deep diving cranks. Quote
Matt_3479 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Posted September 26, 2019 I’m going try and get in and handle a couple rods of longer lengths as I’ve never fished or bothered looking st rods over 7’6”. I’m really intrigued by the megabass launcher just so hesitant with the length. See if I can get my hands on the zodias glass as well. Quote
Yumeya Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 St Croix Legend Tournament Glass... Thank me later Quote
DanielG Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 I use crankbaits a lot. I've had graphite rods all along but got a Dobyn's 735c mhf glass and it's the only rod I want to use now. It just casts right and fights a fish with me. I don't know if other glass rods are like this too but besides using my graphite with my spinning outfit and lighter stuff now I always grab the glass one. Just don't want to use the others any longer. Who knows, it may change with my next rod down the road some day. Quote
Matt_3479 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Posted September 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, DanielG said: I use crankbaits a lot. I've had graphite rods all along but got a Dobyn's 735c mhf glass and it's the only rod I want to use now. It just casts right and fights a fish with me. I don't know if other glass rods are like this too but besides using my graphite with my spinning outfit and lighter stuff now I always grab the glass one. Just don't want to use the others any longer. Who knows, it may change with my next rod down the road some day. Where I’m located in Canada dobyns is one of the only rods I’m not considering. Out of the 7-10 stores I’ve been too/within driving distance only one I saw carried dobyns and after purchasing my first baitcaster (dobyns) few years back they dropped them and cannot find them anywhere. everyone I talk too say they can’t sell them here. I prefer to at least get my hands on one before making the purchase. Quote
CountryboyinDC Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Yumeya said: St Croix Legend Tournament Glass... I have a 6'10 M-moderate Legend Glass, and I want to sell my graphite crankbait rods now. I just bought a 7 1/2' Kistler Feel 'n Reel rod (H-moderate) on their sale, but haven't gotten to try out 10XDs or anything yet. It was on sale a few weeks back, sorry I don't have more experience with it. 1 Quote
DanielG Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Matt_3479 said: Where I’m located in Canada dobyns is one of the only rods I’m not considering. Out of the 7-10 stores I’ve been too/within driving distance only one I saw carried dobyns and after purchasing my first baitcaster (dobyns) few years back they dropped them and cannot find them anywhere. everyone I talk too say they can’t sell them here. I prefer to at least get my hands on one before making the purchase. Not even online? Quote
Matt_3479 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Posted September 27, 2019 6 hours ago, DanielG said: Not even online? One spot I can find if online but they only carry 1 champion, 1 seirra, 3 colts, and a few fury’s. Plus then I can’t get my hands on it first Quote
DanielG Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Matt_3479 said: One spot I can find if online but they only carry 1 champion, 1 seirra, 3 colts, and a few fury’s. Plus then I can’t get my hands on it first I don't know much about cross border buying but I went to tackle warehouse and they seem to have all the rods (I looked at Dobyn's) and there is a page (link at the bottom) about international shipping. They seem to accommodate that. Maybe I missed something. Quote
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