Dobyns should honestly "Mag" rate everything

[Glaucus]

Just an observation. Nothing of value in this thread other than open discussion.

 

I hated Fury rods and got rid of the fleet I bought, but fished a friend's Sierra some months back and loved it. Now I have a couple Sierra rods and a Champion and will add more.

 

Alright so we all know Dobyns runs a little lighter than their listed power compared to other companies. They have the Mag Heavy. The Heavy should be a Mag MH, the MH should be a Mag M and so on. That would be a more accurate way to label their rods and help potential buyers. Their rods are in a strange in-between power.

 

Talk away. Or don't. 

 

Good being back after a prolonged break due to illness that has kept me from fishing or doing much this second half of the summer. I'm 95% now so all good.

[FLAGATOR49]

Yeah I somewhat agree with you, I have 10+ Dobyns Rods. Throwing Mag in there makes it confusing unless its Mag Heavy, which should still be X-Heavy. 

 

The 735C is a great example of the opposite, it's called a medium heavy power, x-fast taper but a higher line rating than the 734C.  

[Hammer 4]

I think the majority of rods are over rated for the amount of weight they can cast comfortably..Especially swimbait rods, and yep, this includes Dobyns. Example, I had a 806 champ rod, rated for 2 to 8 ozs, yet it struggled to throw a 6oz hud, ect. Not sure how they test these rods, but it would be nice if they were more accurate.

[Dangerfield]

10 hours ago, FLAGATOR49 said:

Yeah I somewhat agree with you, I have 10+ Dobyns Rods. Throwing Mag in there makes it confusing unless its Mag Heavy, which should still be X-Heavy. 

 

The 735C is a great example of the opposite, it's called a medium heavy power, x-fast taper but a higher line rating than the 734C.  

It would make a lot more sense if they rated them like this:

735C - Heavy

704/734C - MH

703/733C - M

702 - ML

 

I doubt a 703sf has similar action to a 703C, I should ask Gary.

10 hours ago, Hammer 4 said:

I think the majority of rods are over rated for the amount of weight they can cast comfortably..Especially swimbait rods, and yep, this includes Dobyns. Example, I had a 806 champ rod, rated for 2 to 8 ozs, yet it struggled to throw a 6oz hud, ect. Not sure how they test these rods, but it would be nice if they were more accurate.

I've read this 100 times over. I think the right rule of thumb with Dobyns SB rods is cut the max lure rating in half and boom, sweet spot. Anything over that you're stepping up to the ChampXP series with the 807, 867 and 908 territory which is big bucks and you could probably build a custom rod for that kind of money.

[FLAGATOR49]

1 hour ago, Dangerfield said:

It would make a lot more sense if they rated them like this:

735C - Heavy

704/734C - MH

703/733C - M

702 - ML

 

I doubt a 703sf has similar action to a 703C, I should ask Gary.

I've read this 100 times over. I think the right rule of thumb with Dobyns SB rods is cut the max lure rating in half and boom, sweet spot. Anything over that you're stepping up to the ChampXP series with the 807, 867 and 908 territory which is big bucks and you could probably build a custom rod for that kind of money.

Agreed, I feel like the CB graphite is the opposite though, my 764CB can handle well over 3/4oz same case with my 705CB. 

[Dangerfield]

16 minutes ago, FLAGATOR49 said:

Agreed, I feel like the CB graphite is the opposite though, my 764CB can handle well over 3/4oz same case with my 705CB. 

I haven't handle either of those rods. I do use the S-waver 165 (1 5/8oz) and Gantarel Jr. (1.5oz) on my 735c and I side arm them but no means are they underpowered.

[FLAGATOR49]

Just now, Dangerfield said:

I haven't handle either of those rods. I do use the S-waver 165 (1 5/8oz) and Gantarel Jr. (1.5oz) on my 735c and I side arm them but no means are they underpowered.

I'm working with all Champion series, the Fury's are much heavier than the champs. However, the DX series is definitely rated 1 power too high, but that's typically the case the more high end you go, the more fragile. Cheaper rods are typically much stouter than expensive rods. 

[Deleted account]

There is no standard for power ratings. Sure most manufacturers are somewhere near the accepted Med, MH, Heavy labels, and some are known to be overpowered or underpowered for their labeling. furys do run a full power low, so if one knows this, it shouldn't be an issue. Every stick us going to fish like it's going to fish regardless of its label. What I find more problematic, is the trend towards wider and wider lure weight ranges, 1/8- 1 oz? Come on!

[MassYak85]

A little off topic but are the Sierra rods really that much better than the Fury's? I have a Fury spinning rod I use for most of my weightless and finesse plastics and love it, but the way everyone talks about the Sierra's makes me feel like I'm missing out on something. 

[Dirtyeggroll]

Who’s to say that most other brands of rods are just under rated?

[Mikeltee]

Yep furies suck but I own a few champions and they are great. I am looking forward to trying an extreme as well. I'd rather recommend a $9.99 broomstick at walmart with an attached dustpan than a fury. I own more dobyns than anything too so yes... a true fanboy at heart.

[Smalls]

I like my Fury, but I have the opposite opinion of yours. My 705cb is rated for 1 oz. I don’t feel comfortable throwing that much on it. 

 

If they rated it anything else, I feel like they should go down and call it a “mag medium”, instead. 

 

I don’t have enough experience with their other lines to really comment on them, though. 

[Columbia Craw]

A thought:  I look at Dobyns model's listed weight range.  They are broad.  The middle of the range is the sweet spot for that model.  Then look at the extreme ends of the range and although not optimum, the model will in a stretch work but it's not the sweet spot or optimum for the model.  I also noticed, having a a number of Dobyns, the CB or crankbait powers are a designation all their own and should not be confused with models outside the crankbait specific models. Finally, once you fish a specific power rating it's actually pretty easy to figure out what the next power, up or down will feel like because the progression of the powers is actually very consistent and very predictable, at least that's my experience.  I have found two exceptions, the Fury 664C and Champion 704CB glass.  The first seemed closer to a 5 power and the latter well below a 4 power, even in the CB series. 

[rtwvumtneer6]

Not to hijack this, but I'm thinking about picking up a Dobyns Fury.  Never used one, and prob won't have the opportunity until I own it.  

 

Anyway, I'm going to be using this rod for a lot of flippin' and casting jigs and Texas rigs, 3/8-5/8oz.  15-20# fluoro or 50-65# braid.  I also run into the rare occasion where I might have to increase my tungsten to upwards of 1oz.

 

Which rod would that suggest?  734C, 735C, other?

 

Thanks for your time,

RT

[Russ E]

5 hours ago, rtwvumtneer6 said:

Not to hijack this, but I'm thinking about picking up a Dobyns Fury.  Never used one, and prob won't have the opportunity until I own it.  

 

Anyway, I'm going to be using this rod for a lot of flippin' and casting jigs and Texas rigs, 3/8-5/8oz.  15-20# fluoro or 50-65# braid.  I also run into the rare occasion where I might have to increase my tungsten to upwards of 1oz.

 

Which rod would that suggest?  734C, 735C, other?

 

Thanks for your time,

RT

735C if you want it for all the baits you mentioned.

I own both. I prefer the 734C  for Texas rigged  worms. With 14 to16 lb fluorocarbon.

The 735 for anything heavier. It has more backbone for flipping heavy cover and setting the hook with heavy flipping jigs.

[DanielG]

Just a note: I got a Champion 735c MHF glass this summer. For most med/large baits I just don't pick up another rod. It's the best (of the very few) rods I've got at this point.