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In memory of the countless lives lost and still affected to this day by the terrible events of that tragedy.

We will never, ever forget.

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I will never forget the young men and women, who knowing their country was going to war, made the courageous decision to serve their country. In the days, months, and years following 9/11, less than 1% of our country would serve in uniform. They represent the very best of America.

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This is NOT an outlet for political discussion.

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What I find amazing is there is an entire generation alive today that wasn't around during the events of 9/11 and there is an entire generation of people who were alive during 9/11 and have now passed.

In today's world, with the overload of information combined with the lack of ability to retain such information, I wonder if, in another 40 years, "We will forget" 

I wonder if they teach about 9/11 in history class. When I was a kid, we were taught about the Revolutionary and Civil wars, WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam eras(when I was born). Does this history still get taught? Do they teach kids about the oil embargo in the 70's and the Ayatollah Khomeini? Do they teach kids about the invasion of Grenada? The Cold war?  About Desert Storm? Libya? The rise and fall of Saddam Hussein? Do they still teach in schools that the United States is still the greatest most powerful country on earth? If I had to guess, based on today's culture, I'd say no. Immediately after 9/11, Americans were Americans. Americans cared about their fellow man. What in the hell has happened since then? People don't give a d**n about anybody but themselves.

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10 hours ago, slonezp said:

What I find amazing is there is an entire generation alive today that wasn't around during the events of 9/11 and there is an entire generation of people who were alive during 9/11 and have now passed.

In today's world, with the overload of information combined with the lack of ability to retain such information, I wonder if, in another 40 years, "We will forget" 

I wonder if they teach about 9/11 in history class. When I was a kid, we were taught about the Revolutionary and Civil wars, WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam eras(when I was born). Does this history still get taught? Do they teach kids about the oil embargo in the 70's and the Ayatollah Khomeini? Do they teach kids about the invasion of Grenada? The Cold war?  About Desert Storm? Libya? The rise and fall of Saddam Hussein? Do they still teach in schools that the United States is still the greatest most powerful country on earth? If I had to guess, based on today's culture, I'd say no. Immediately after 9/11, Americans were Americans. Americans cared about their fellow man. What in the hell has happened since then? People don't give a d**n about anybody but themselves.

I don't know about today's schools, but I can say that I was taught much more about pre-Civil Rights history than I was about more recent history, and that was 15 years ago, a lot has changed since then. It seemed like the teachers forgot that what had happened in their lives, hadn't also happened in ours and was therefore history that we needed to be taught about, otherwise it had never happened in our eyes.

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11 hours ago, slonezp said:

What I find amazing is there is an entire generation alive today that wasn't around during the events of 9/11 and there is an entire generation of people who were alive during 9/11 and have now passed.

In today's world, with the overload of information combined with the lack of ability to retain such information, I wonder if, in another 40 years, "We will forget" 

I wonder if they teach about 9/11 in history class. When I was a kid, we were taught about the Revolutionary and Civil wars, WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam eras(when I was born). Does this history still get taught? Do they teach kids about the oil embargo in the 70's and the Ayatollah Khomeini? Do they teach kids about the invasion of Grenada? The Cold war?  About Desert Storm? Libya? The rise and fall of Saddam Hussein? Do they still teach in schools that the United States is still the greatest most powerful country on earth? If I had to guess, based on today's culture, I'd say no. Immediately after 9/11, Americans were Americans. Americans cared about their fellow man. What in the hell has happened since then? People don't give a d**n about anybody but themselves.

My son is in 3rd grade so I don’t think they fully get in to American history at this point. However the past two years they have discussed 9/11 and every year they attend a ceremony at the firehouse across the street from his school. He has brought home books from the library about WWII and the 9/11 attacks and he’s asked me about it, so I think he’s like me and taking and interest in American history. 

 

When we were in school (graduated 17 years ago) we covered everything from the pilgrims up to current events, with a big focus on WWII (including Pearl Harbor) and the holocaust. The Vietnam war was covered as well but it doesn’t seem like it was covered for very long.

 

I'm not sure that everyone cares only about themselves, instead I think since social media the self centered ones have a platform to boost egos and push their beliefs, while the true people who do good prefer to do it behind the scenes, because they aren’t doing the good deeds and helping others for the attention. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, slonezp said:

I wonder if they teach about 9/11 in history class.

I can confirm that my son's social studies focus is 9/11 right now.  We had to grant permission for him to see a graphic documentary on it.  I'm pretty sure it's the same one we watched last year on PBS.  He's in 7th grade, so it seems appropriate.  Back when I was in high school, the fall of the Berlin Wall and end of communism and USSR were current and a primary focus.  I can't speak for the rest of the country, but at least this area has a decent set of standards.

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42 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I can confirm that my son's social studies focus is 9/11 right now.  We had to grant permission for him to see a graphic documentary on it.  I'm pretty sure it's the same one we watched last year on PBS.

 

Same with my son’s elementary class. Being a little younger, they didn’t watch any of the videos, but they learned what happened on 9/11. After he got home, we had a long talk as well as watched some of the ground zero footages with the towers getting hit and collapsing. A local college had a remembrance ceremony that we attended to finish out the day.    

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Good to hear kids are being taught about it. I talked to my wife tonight, who went to a different school than I did, she also said she wasn't taught much American history after WWII. I vaguely remember some of it being glossed over, but it was always the last month or so of the school year when nobody was focused on learning anything, just ready to get to summer vacation.

 

Ironically enough, I was sitting in American History class when 9/11 happened.

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I'll never forget, and to be completely honest, I'll never forgive.

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On the morning of 9/11 my hotels was undergoing its annual Marriott quality assurance inspection. As the GM of the property I needed to tag along with the inspector but I will admit when we started inspecting rooms I did not pay attention to the inspection and turned on the TV for the latest news instead.

 

Either later that day or the next day when they showed the names and photos of some of the hijackers a chill went down my spine. I recognized the face and name of one of the hijackers (I won't post his name here, but it's the name of the most prominent one). Six months prior to 9/11 I was running a different Marriott property and he stayed at my hotel. I know this because one busy morning I was helping my front desk with checking out guests and I was the one that checked him out of the property. He said nothing when I checked him out, but the reason I remembered him was because of his eyes and facial expression. Honestly, he looked ticked off and evil and when I asked him about his stay he glared at me for a moment, said nothing, and walked away. I know hindsight is 20/20, but that day the guy reaked of evil and that's his name and face jumped out at me when it became news. I now know he was probably scouting airport security when he stayed with us. And needless to say, when the reports came out I called my old hotel and told them to pull his records and contact the FBI.

 

It also turns out that this guy and some of his cohorts stayed at the hotel of one of my GM friends the night before the attacks.

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.......I will also never forget the feeling in this country the day after.  Hasn't  been like that since ?

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On 9/11/2019 at 6:54 PM, slonezp said:

Americans cared about their fellow man. 

 

Despite the horrible events of 9/11, it was inspiring to see an increase of kindness, generosity, compassion, etc... in the days and weeks following. We were a very unified Nation. 

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5 minutes ago, Chowderhead said:

 

Despite the horrible events of 9/11, it was inspiring to see an increase of kindness, generosity, compassion, etc... in the days and weeks following. We were a very unified Nation. 

Wish we could have figured out how to keep all that going.

(without the massive loss of life I mean)

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