Knot for heavy flurocarbon

[FLAGATOR49]

Appreciate all the responses, how would someone test a knots impact strength aka a hook set? Seems like all the knot tests I find online are done with a steady pull which only measures tensile strength. 

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8 minutes ago, FLAGATOR49 said:

Appreciate all the responses, how would someone test a knots impact strength aka a hook set? Seems like all the knot tests I find online are done with a steady pull which only measures tensile strength. 

With a scale (analog or digital) with a max reading indicator. You can also measure relative knot strength by tying 2 knots on opposite ends of a swivel. 

[FLAGATOR49]

1 hour ago, BassWhole! said:

With a scale (analog or digital) with a max reading indicator. You can also measure relative knot strength by tying 2 knots on opposite ends of a swivel. 

That makes sense, a scale with a max reading indicator...please share a scale with that feature if you know of one. Right now I'm using car key spilt rings to a snap and swivel then pulling with a scale. I've never broke off from a bass pulling, only on the impact from a hookset. 

[deadadrift89]

Trilene knot on 16# never had issues. I don't use any line larger in fluorocarbon 

[waymont]

On 9/10/2019 at 6:19 PM, FLAGATOR49 said:

What knot do you guys use for heavier fluro? This would be a minimum 15lb test all the way up to 30lb. 

I make leaders when I’m fishing around pike with 30 and 40 lb fluorocarbon with a 3-4 turn clinch knot. Never had one slip in many years of tying them.

[Derek1]

On 9/10/2019 at 9:30 PM, WRB said:

I learned to tie this knot in the 60's, it's simple with any lure that has some weight like a jig or whatever.

1. Put the end of the line through the hook eye, the tag end about a foot long.

2. Hold the top of the loop between your thumb and index finger about 3" long loop.

3. With the lure hanging down wrap the tag end around the loop about 5-6 turns.

4. Put the tag end through the bottom lop opening, then up through the top loop opening.

5. Pull the tag end snug and wet the knot, then pull the main line so the jam knot slides down to the hook eye. Now with the knot wet pull main line until it's tight, clip off the tag end about 1/8" long.

I use a single line loop, no reason to double it.

Tom

PS, tieing to a hook I clip on a cloths pin or hang a jig on the hook for weight.

 

I’m sorry but is that the old fisherman’s not my dad  did. That’s the only knot I know through the eye, wrap 5-7 times, go through the hole above the hook and then through the whole you just made. I always thought that was the clinch knot. 

[WRB]

1 minute ago, Derek1 said:

I’m sorry but is that the old fisherman’s not my dad  did. That’s the only knot I know through the eye, wrap 5-7 times, go through the hole above the hook and then through the whole you just made. I always thought that was the clinch knot. 

Very different then a clinch knot or improved clinched or Trilene knot because the wraps start at the top of the loop and wrap around 2 strands of line. Clinch knots twist the loop then thr tag end is goes through the opening at the hook eye, improved you run the tag end through the upper opening. 

I can see how you could get confused, but look a any knot vedio and it should be clear.

Tom

[Derek1]

2 minutes ago, WRB said:

Very different then a clinch knot or improved clinched or Trilene knot because the wraps start at the top of the loop and wrap around 2 strands of line. Clinch knots twist the loop then thr tag end is goes through the opening at the hook eye, improved you run the tag end through the upper opening. 

I can see how you could get confused, but look a any knot vedio and it should be clear.

Tom

I did look after reading this. Thanks for helping me clarify. I just realized how embarrassing I  only do that one knot. But I can do it with my eyes closed. The best knot is the one you know how to tie. That’s pretty week but all I could come up with. 

[WRB]

34 minutes ago, Derek1 said:

I did look after reading this. Thanks for helping me clarify. I just realized how embarrassing I  only do that one knot. But I can do it with my eyes closed. The best knot is the one you know how to tie. That’s pretty week but all I could come up with. 

The fishermans knot (clinch knot) is the first knot most us learned to tie.

I called what is now the Palomar* knot the Indian knot because that is what it was called in the 50's. San Diego jam knot was known as the Mexican knot because the long range charter boat crews called it by that name in the 60's, both no longer politically correct names.

Tom

* named after man named Palomar in a knot riding contest in the 80's.

[FryDog62]

On 9/10/2019 at 8:34 PM, A-Jay said:

Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot.

Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best !

 

 

If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot.

A-Jay

Looks like my father-in-law’s recent MRI of his GI tract...

 

I think we’ll call this new knot “Diverticulitis..!”

[Jason Penn]

i've been using the eugene slip knot for everything, and have had zero issues

[Tony johnson]

On 9/10/2019 at 4:23 PM, WRB said:

San Diego jam knot.

Tom

same here.. all the way to 120lb floro

[GreenPig]

On 9/10/2019 at 9:34 PM, A-Jay said:

Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot.

Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best !

 

 

If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot.

A-Jay

It's bulky but it works.

[LionHeart]

Well if Ole' Gerald says fluorocarbon has zero stretch,  it has to be true.   And all this time.......