FLAGATOR49 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 What knot do you guys use for heavier fluro? This would be a minimum 15lb test all the way up to 30lb. Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 10, 2019 Super User Posted September 10, 2019 San Diego jam knot. Tom 3 Quote
FLAGATOR49 Posted September 10, 2019 Author Posted September 10, 2019 Just now, WRB said: San Diego jam knot. Tom I'm struggling with the San Diego jam more than any other knot, including the FG knot. Are you doubling the lines Tom? Quote
RichF Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 Palomar for 15lb and up for me. No issues. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted September 11, 2019 Super User Posted September 11, 2019 Uni.....all day, every day? 2 Quote
FLAGATOR49 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, NHBull said: Uni.....all day, every day? Doubled Uni works best for me and is grading out the highest in my tests. Just cant tie that san diego jam well Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 11, 2019 Super User Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, FLAGATOR49 said: I'm struggling with the San Diego jam more than any other knot, including the FG knot. Are you doubling the lines Tom? I learned to tie this knot in the 60's, it's simple with any lure that has some weight like a jig or whatever. 1. Put the end of the line through the hook eye, the tag end about a foot long. 2. Hold the top of the loop between your thumb and index finger about 3" long loop. 3. With the lure hanging down wrap the tag end around the loop about 5-6 turns. 4. Put the tag end through the bottom lop opening, then up through the top loop opening. 5. Pull the tag end snug and wet the knot, then pull the main line so the jam knot slides down to the hook eye. Now with the knot wet pull main line until it's tight, clip off the tag end about 1/8" long. I use a single line loop, no reason to double it. Tom PS, tieing to a hook I clip on a cloths pin or hang a jig on the hook for weight. 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted September 11, 2019 Super User Posted September 11, 2019 Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot. Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best ! If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot. A-Jay 1 4 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted September 11, 2019 Super User Posted September 11, 2019 I'll use 17lb sometimes, mostly 15 lb...San Diego jam knot. Although I have used a uni, but 99% of the time an SD knot. 1 Quote
FLAGATOR49 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 Just now, WRB said: I learned to tie this knot in the 60's, it's simple with any lure that has some weight like a jig or whatever. 1. Put the end of the line through the hook eye, the tag end about a foot long. 2. Hold the top of the loop between your thumb and index finger about 3" long loop. 3. With the lure hanging down wrap the tag end around the loop about 5-6 turns. 4. Put the tag end through the bottom lop opening, then up through the top loop opening. 5. Pull the tag end snug and wet the knot, then pull the main line so the jam knot slides down to the hook eye. Now with the knot wet pull main line until it's tight, clip off the tag end about 1/8" long. I use a single line loop, no reason to double it. Tom PS, tieing to a hook I clip on a cloths pin or hang a jig on the hook for weight. Thanks for the advice Tom!! adding some weight is something im missing and the steps help a lot as well!!! Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted September 11, 2019 Super User Posted September 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, FLAGATOR49 said: Thanks for the advice Tom! adding some weight is something im missing and the steps help a lot as well!!! And never skimp on the tag length... Quote
FLAGATOR49 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 Just now, Hammer 4 said: And never skimp on the tag length... appreciate that tip Hammer 4!! 2 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot. Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best ! If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot. A-Jay I'm guessing this is mocking how hard the SD Jam knot is? Either way i got a laugh out of it! 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 11, 2019 Super User Posted September 11, 2019 Looks a like a backlash knot to me . Tom Quote
FLAGATOR49 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Posted September 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, WRB said: Looks a like a backlash knot to me . Tom ? or a compounded wind knot on a spinning reel!! Just tied the SD knot and much better results with your advice Tom Thank You! 55 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said: And never skimp on the tag length... You're absolutely right more tag length is a must for the SD Jam! 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted September 11, 2019 Global Moderator Posted September 11, 2019 11 hours ago, WRB said: San Diego jam knot. Tom 9 hours ago, Hammer 4 said: And never skimp on the tag length... Ditto Mike Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 11, 2019 Super User Posted September 11, 2019 https://www.***.com/fishing_knots/pitzen-knot Quote
Harold Scoggins Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 10 hours ago, A-Jay said: Pretty sure this one's called the Loadmaster Knot. Takes a while to learn & half an hour to tie but once you get it - it's the best ! If you can't tie a knot - tie a lot. A-Jay I can't get my knot to look like that... 1 Quote
Bassattackr Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 This is the one I use, taught by the man himself. Great for flouro, mono or braid. This is all I use unless line to leader then I use the Alberto. Quote
BoatSquirrel Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 I am not one of the legions of Gerald Swindle man-crushers out there but this knot has proven darn near unbreakable. Basically just a double clinch knot... Quote
Fried Lemons Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 Doubled uni knot has never failed me. Quote
boostr Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, BoatSquirrel said: I am not one of the legions of Gerald Swindle man-crushers out there but this knot has proven darn near unbreakable. Basically just a double clinch knot... LOL, I remember watching this clip. Gman cracks me up. 1 Quote
boostr Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 Depends what I'm tying on: Improved Clinch Knot, Trilene Knot, or Snell Knot. These three for me. Quote
Joe_w1234 Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 I just use the palomar knot and I have 17lb floro but it works for me Quote
Tackleholic Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 I use the fly fisherman's go to......Orvis knot, with 3 passes through the loop instead of 2. Quick and easy, wastes less line, hasn't failed yet. Quote
Taylormade113 Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 I still use the Improved Clinch knot with 17# InvisX and have never had an issue, never. I have never lost a fish with this knot due to failure at the knot. The three knots I use on a regular basis = Improved Clinch, Palomar and Alberto (Albright) not sure on the last one. Quote
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