Super User ChrisD46 Posted September 5, 2019 Super User Posted September 5, 2019 Any suggestions for a good topwater bait cast rod under 7' in length in MF (i use braid) ? ... My current top water rod for Sexy Dawgs , Spooks, One Knockers, etc. is a Dobyns 734C 7'3" and as a back seater I tend to hit the water too much with the rod tip on walking baits - I also believe a shorter than normal rod (i.e. 6'4" - 6'10") would help with cadence as well as tire less with the shorter rod . Your thoughts and suggestions ? ... If no suggestions I may check out the Daiwa Aird - X 6'6" MF or MH as an experiment . I don't know if the rod action would work for walking baits but the short split grip is a definitely a plus for walking baits ! Quote
DubyaDee Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 You don't need to spend much for this rod, action is more important than anything. I use an old Zell Rowland All star top water special. You can pick these up used every now and then. It has a perfect mod/fast tip, and regular size guides so a leader knot is never an issue. If you're a Dobyn's guy, the DC 685CB would be a good option. Quote
Junger Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 I like shorter handles for walking baits and poppers. Lew's has the Custom Plus Speed Stick's with shorter grips around 10". 6'7 M/ModFast and a 6'8 ML/F. I have the 6'8 and it's a great topwater rod for 1/8-1/2oz lures. It's true to the lower end of the rating too. It sorta has a MBR rod taper and I've hauled 8lb snakeheads out of thick hydrilla on 12lb mono with it. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Super User Posted September 5, 2019 *I certainly appreciate the replies ! ... I remembered I have a All Star Nano bait cast rod from a few years back that is 6' , short split grip and rated up to 1/2 oz. It's good for poppers and the junior size Sexy Dawg , Sammy 100 , twin treble hook walking baits . I suppose my true need is a top water rod under 7' to handle the larger three treble hook walking baits from the 110 to 120 size which are approaching the 3/4th oz. weight range . I agree you don't need to spend much on this type of rod as action , proper rod bend profile , light weight and ability to handle the correct walking bait weight range are what's important . Quote
Bassattackr Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 The Alpha Angler Slasher (6'-10", Med Pwr, Fast Action) is a great rod for what you describe. I own two of them, throw walking baits on 30 lb Sunline SX1 Braid with 25 lb Sunline Armilo leader. Split grip, makes a great jerkbait rod as well. Good luck! Quote
rangerjockey Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 I agree with the old All Star TWS. They bring 100 bucks or more on the used market but they are really good.. Not a bad squarebill rod either . You want the Houston made model. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted September 5, 2019 Super User Posted September 5, 2019 Most any 6'6"-6'9" MH rod should fit the bill. It need not be anything to high end. Make sure you are happy with the grip, nothing more annoying than an ill fitting grip on a walking bait, JB or popper rod. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted September 5, 2019 Super User Posted September 5, 2019 I love my Zell Rowland for these types of baits and run straight braid ? Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 6, 2019 Super User Posted September 6, 2019 If use Iovino Splash-It Major Craft rod for top water lures 1/4-1/2 oz, 6'8" MF. Tom Quote
sll Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Personally I use Falcon Medium-Light pistol grip rods for my topwaters when using Spooks and Pop-R's (I fish a Pop-R like a walker and not a chugger). I am mainly making short casts under overhanging trees and docks for the most part and a shorter, slower action rod allows me to make more accurate roll casts...... #17 pound test mono. Quote
LegendaryBassin Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Megabass Jerkbait Special or Flatside Special would be awesome plus a G Loomis MBR 843 is hard to beat as well because it is extremely versatile Quote
ohboyitsrobby Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I have an okuma evx 6'8" mf topwater jerkbait rod that's really good. Think it runs $100ish Quote
johnD. Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Falcon makes some good one between 6'6 and 7'. Quote
zell_pop1 Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 I like short rod/short handle for walking baits too. I use an old Team Daiwa S 6'3" topwater/twitching rod and it is perfect for this. Quote
frogflogger Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 For walking baits with braid I love my old 5'8"fenwick glass rod - easy accurate casting and you can make a spook dance the tango. Quote
fvogel67 Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 FFO has the older Abu 6’4” Ike Delay for 65.00. Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted September 8, 2019 Super User Posted September 8, 2019 I purchased a 6'9" Heavy power Hammer rod 3 years ago for larger topwaters. What I soon discovered is the rod is a killer for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits in the 3/8oz to 1oz range. I have also used it with every walking bait I own from 3/8oz and up and I'm super impressed. What I like is the rod is a heavy power but has a moderate fast action and Hammer rods fish about 1/2 power under the rating so it is like a heavier MH rod. Being it is a little heavier than a mod fast MH rod makes the tip section a little more stout so I don't get the tip lag so I can work a bait fast but that mod fast action really helps keep the fish buttoned up and prevents me from pulling the hooks out. In 3 years I have not lost a single chatterbait or spinnerbait fish with it, if it is hooked I land it. Now I have lost a couple topwater fish but far fewer than I have when using a regular fast action rod and I can work baits better than I can with a full blown cranking rod. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted September 16, 2019 Author Super User Posted September 16, 2019 Seems that whether you like braid or mono for topwater can have an impact as to whether you like a M/MH Fast graphite rod or a composite M/MH Moderate action rod . It also seems that with a composite rod you have don't work a walking bait as quickly as graphite but you keep the bass buttoned up better with treble hooks . You are either in the graphite , fast rod camp or the composite delay rod camp for topwater walking baits . Some guys can use a M/MH Fast graphite rod with braid and never have trouble keeping a bass buttoned up (go figure ?) which should run counter intuitively to those that use a delay type rod with mono ... Perhaps best to say : I want to save my wrist , so I'll choose braid mainline then chose a rod to go with it that will work the walking bait with ease then adjust drag and technique accordingly to keep a bass buttoned up . Quote
Super User Mobasser Posted September 16, 2019 Super User Posted September 16, 2019 I fish spooks a fair amount. I have the best results with a 51/2 to 6ft rod. Short pistol or straight grip, and 12 to 15lb mono line. I like a rod with a little flex in the tip also. Quote
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