Super User ChrisD46 Posted September 4, 2019 Super User Posted September 4, 2019 What is your current favorite 8 or 9 carrier braid in terms of cast-ability , distance , low noise , robustness / low fraying , low bleeding of color , etc. ? *I currently use Power Pro in lighter line weights on my spinning reel set ups with no complaints but for a bait cast combo using #20 lb. to #40 lb. braid for top water applications - I'm looking for advantages that an 8 or 9 carrier braid can provide versus the traditional 4 carrier braids . Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 4, 2019 Super User Posted September 4, 2019 Tell me about 9 carrier braiding machines? I know about 4, 8, 16, 24, 32, 48, 64 and 128 carrier braiders. Tom Quote
Yumeya Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 8 strand is smoother, casts better and is quieter running through guides. Its supposedly rounder also??? Quote
Timberwolf530 Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said: What is your current favorite 8 or 9 carrier braid in terms of cast-ability , distance , low noise , robustness / low fraying , low bleeding of color , etc. ? *I currently use Power Pro in lighter line weights on my spinning reel set ups with no complaints but for a bait cast combo using #20 lb. to #40 lb. braid for top water applications - I'm looking for advantages that an 8 or 9 carrier braid can provide versus the traditional 4 carrier braids . I've been using Daiwa J Braid X8 for quite a while now. I haven't had any problems with it. It seems to keep its color as well as any other line I've tried, and much better than the bargain internet brands. I don't have much issue with wind knots, and fraying hasn't been an issue either. My casting distances definitely increased when I switched to the 8 carrier line as well. The best part is that J Braid is relatively inexpensive. I'm just starting to experiment with Ardent Gliss, which is a whole different animal than braid. I'm interested to see how it compares. It's incredibly thin. Quote
ike8120 Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 42 minutes ago, WRB said: Tell me about 9 carrier braiding machines. Tom https://www.google.com/search?q=how+is+braided+fishing+line+made&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS786US786&oq=how+is+braided+fishing+line+made&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4.8250j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_oi1wXZv-IYqE5wKbiKzgAw26 Quote
LegendaryBassin Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, WRB said: Tell me about 9 carrier braiding machines? I know about 4, 8, 16, 24, 32, 48, 64 and 128 carrier braiders. Tom Berkley makes a X5 and X9 braided line which is there 5 and 9 carrier braids Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 4, 2019 Super User Posted September 4, 2019 I only spend 50 years working with braiders to make aerospace products like EMI shielding and up until the time I retired in 2015* there wasn't any braiders in North America with odd number carriers to the best of my knowledge. Sometimes the number of spindles mounted on a carrier that can have up to 3 spindles per carrier, 4 carrier braider can have 12 spindles for example, each bobbin can have multiple ends, it can get confusing. The video shows 5 and 9 spindles, couldn't see the number of carrier disk plates? If the mfr claims 5 and 9 carriers with single spindles then it's news to me. Tom PS, good video * Glenair, Inc Dir R&D 1 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted September 4, 2019 Super User Posted September 4, 2019 To the OP'S question. I Like: Hitena, but expensive Then, Smackdown, Fins, Gamma...... Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted September 4, 2019 Super User Posted September 4, 2019 Sufix 832 or Tufline Domin8. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted September 4, 2019 Super User Posted September 4, 2019 SpiderWire Ultra-Cast is pretty good handling line oe Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted September 5, 2019 Super User Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, OkobojiEagle said: SpiderWire Ultra-Cast is pretty good handling line oe 1 hour ago, OkobojiEagle said: SpiderWire Ultra-Cast is pretty good handling line oe I wanted to like that line but it kept unraveling on me. Quote
Big Rick Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 I use Smackdown on my spinning rig. It's perfect. I tried it on my T-rig bait caster in 40 LB and it frayed at the tungsten weight awfully! And I peg my weight. I was terribly disappointed. So, I am moving it to my buzz bait rig. It may not do that with a lead weight but I swapped the weight to different styles in tungsten and they all frayed the line. Quote
matbellon3 Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Daiwa J-Braid x8 Grand Light Grey and regular white J-Braid x8. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted September 5, 2019 Super User Posted September 5, 2019 I’ve used daiwa J-braid x8 for a few years. It is pretty good, soft and quiet. Now that I tried Sufix 832, I like it even better not as soft nor quiet but sensitivity is top notch. Also it seems to sink faster than others. The bad thing of very soft braid is when you get backlash, it is harder to untangle. 3 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted September 5, 2019 Author Super User Posted September 5, 2019 OP here : I intend to use the 8 - carrier braid just for top water and other applications where there are few obstacles or tough conditions to contend with . Quote
Falkus Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Been using Tuf-line but I have switched to Sufix 832 ghost braid line...Just love it Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted September 6, 2019 Super User Posted September 6, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 3:13 PM, ChrisD46 said: What is your current favorite 8 or 9 carrier braid in terms of cast-ability , distance , low noise , robustness / low fraying , low bleeding of color , etc. ? *I currently use Power Pro in lighter line weights on my spinning reel set ups with no complaints but for a bait cast combo using #20 lb. to #40 lb. braid for top water applications - I'm looking for advantages that an 8 or 9 carrier braid can provide versus the traditional 4 carrier braids . YGK G soul x8 green hits all those marks and for ect. such as resistance to wind knots its extremely good. Quote
johnD. Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 6:20 PM, WRB said: I only spend 50 years working with braiders to make aerospace products like EMI shielding and up until the time I retired in 2015* there wasn't any braiders in North America with odd number carriers to the best of my knowledge. Sometimes the number of spindles mounted on a carrier that can have up to 3 spindles per carrier, 4 carrier braider can have 12 spindles for example, each bobbin can have multiple ends, it can get confusing. The video shows 5 and 9 spindles, couldn't see the number of carrier disk plates? If the mfr claims 5 and 9 carriers with single spindles then it's news to me. Tom PS, good video * Glenair, Inc Dir R&D Berkley X9 , 9-Carrier construction with a PE Core. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted September 7, 2019 Super User Posted September 7, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 8:59 AM, johnD. said: Berkley X9 , 9-Carrier construction with a PE Core. most likely all 9 strands of this line are gel-spun polyethylene (PE). oe Quote
johnD. Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, OkobojiEagle said: most likely all 9 strands of this line are gel-spun polyethylene (PE). oe Not sure but , I like it.. I have 40 lb rigged up on my rod for 10xd's. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted November 13, 2019 Super User Posted November 13, 2019 Well, I'm bringing this back up, rather than starting a new thread. Looking into finesse braids, for spinning gear. I've liked J-Braid (8-carrier) in 20 and 30# for non-finesse use. But, at 10# in a finesse rig, it's 8 too soft, self-knotting terribly. The problem just arose, this being that line's second season. I think it may have softened from wear, although it looks OK, maybe a bit fluffed up (not frayed). Although there are some real advantages to super-soft braids, some rigidity may be more important most of the time. And it should be economical, not up front necessarily, but down the road. I'm old enough now that 5yrs is a flash. I've used Gliss in 8# for UL, and it's been nice -so far. About to replace the J-Braid with Gliss 24# (.007) I already have. I'm thinking 832 is next up, if I need to change again. But, I am curious about the other stuff that's out there. What's "new" and what's it do? Quote
Super User Scott F Posted November 13, 2019 Super User Posted November 13, 2019 Currently, Sufix 832 is my go to. I don’t like Power Pro Super Slick 8. It frays really bad when you tie knots. I’m not sure how much of it I have left, but any I do have will only be used as backing for 832. Quote
Todd2 Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 I tried some 8, didn't see enough of an advantage for the price difference and went back to regular Power Pro 4 strand for any braid needs. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted November 13, 2019 Super User Posted November 13, 2019 @Paul RobertsI like Gliss #18 on my Ultra light rig (casting) but definitely need leader to make the line last longer and once a while I would cutoff a few yards due to line fraying from my finger or rubbing against the guides. Even as much as I like it I don’t think I’m gonna buy anymore. The next favorite right now would be #8 Sufix 832. I’m not sure but to me, the sensitivity is crisper than original PP and PP super slick also less bowl in water (#8 PP is thinner than 832). The next thing I wanna try is sinking braid YGK G-soul and nano braid, if I can afford it. 1 1 Quote
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