Sniper FC too much memory

[freelancer27]

It might also be worth checking your technique on how you spool the line onto the reel. I am using Sniper 16# as well on casting set ups and dont have any memory issues worth mentioning. But when I dont perfectly spool the line onto a reel I get probs, no mater what line quality or diameter.

Just a thought.

[Shif29]

7 hours ago, freelancer27 said:

It might also be worth checking your technique on how you spool the line onto the reel. I am using Sniper 16# as well on casting set ups and dont have any memory issues worth mentioning. But when I dont perfectly spool the line onto a reel I get probs, no mater what line quality or diameter.

Just a thought.

never thought of this... How SHOULD i spool the line? It’s spooled pretty evenly as far as i can see

[freelancer27]

4 hours ago, Shif29 said:

never thought of this... How SHOULD i spool the line? It’s spooled pretty evenly as far as i can see

Have a look at a video like this: 

 

[LonnieP]

21 hours ago, RealtreeByGod said:

I tried 7lb on a M/L setup, threw it on 2 different reels and had such awful issues with memory and line lay that I ending up junking it and using regular-ol' Trilene mono. I just don't think fluro and spinning gear get along period. 

I have 7lb Sniper on my Shimano Symmetry 2500. I soaked the line in hot tap water before I spooled it and I have experienced no memory problems so far. 

[WRB]

If you fish from a boat it's easy to remove line twist by dragging about 100' of line without anything tied on behind in the wake at walking speed for a few minutes at the end of the day, then reeling the back onto the reel. You should always run line between finger to control the light pressure applied when respooling line.

With the refill spool spinning on an axial (pencil works) the line comes off the top of the spool for baitcasting reels, off the bottom for spinning reels....simple to remember.

FC line is high memory line, that is why line conditioners work to reduce memory and wet the line to reduce springing off the spool.Very little difference between premium FC line mfr's regarding memory issue.

Tom

[Shif29]

4 hours ago, WRB said:

If you fish from a boat it's easy to remove line twist by dragging about 100' of line without anything tied on behind in the wake at walking speed for a few minutes at the end of the day, then reeling the back onto the reel. You should always run line between finger to control the light pressure applied when respooling line.

With the refill spool spinning on an axial (pencil works) the line comes off the top of the spool for baitcasting reels, off the bottom for spinning reels....simple to remember.

FC line is high memory line, that is why line conditioners work to reduce memory and wet the line to reduce springing off the spool.Very little difference between premium FC line mfr's regarding memory issue.

Tom

Thanks for the info Mr. Tom. Just saw your top 5 largemouth and wow!

[fishwizzard]

Go buy a spool of Sunline Shooter, that stuff will make the Sniper feel like silk.

 

Sniper is generally regarded as a very manageable fluoro but it really depends what you are used to.  I mainly fish 12lb and below so even 16lb Tastsu feels like fishing with wire rope to me at first. 

 

 

[Shif29]

On 9/3/2019 at 2:36 PM, stratoliner92 said:

I use Sniper 16# and 14# never had problem with memory issues 

this is the morning after i threw this rod and sprayed conditioner on it... 

[johnD.]

23 minutes ago, Shif29 said:

this is the morning after i threw this rod and sprayed conditioner on it... 

Looks like you got a bad spool. It happens.

[Shif29]

7 minutes ago, johnD. said:

Looks like you got a bad spool. It happens.

yeah I figured... I emailed sunline about it. Nothing will probably come out of the email but it’s worth a try.

[WRB]

Your spool is filled to the max, maybe about 5 yards over full.

What line conditioner did you use and how long before using?

Tom

[Shif29]

4 minutes ago, WRB said:

Your spool is filled to the max, maybe about 5 yards over full.

What line conditioner did you use and how long before using?

Tom

i have a little bit of space left on the spool but it’s hard to tell... I’ve been using reel snot cause it’s the only conditioner that the places around me had.

[WRB]

1 hour ago, Shif29 said:

i have a little bit of space left on the spool but it’s hard to tell... I’ve been using reel snot cause it’s the only conditioner that the places around me had.

A fishing partner had ReelSnot line line conditioner so I gave it try and didn't like it for 2 reasons; 1) it gets everywhere on your hands the reel handle and is extremely slippery coating, 2) it doesn't wet the line with water reducing line memory. It does lubricate the line like LPS silicone spray does. Fluorocarbon line isn't hygroscopic and sheds water and it's water that helps to keep the line on the spool.

KVD line conditioner is popular but needs several hours to work. I use a product called Tangle Free by Punisher Lures, hard to find since BPS bought Cabela's and no longer carries it.

I would pull off about 30'feet of line, respray then wind on the line and spray a second time. Whip off the reel with WD-40 and wash your hands with soap and water. Let the reel set for 30 minutes and give it another try.

Tom

PS, Defier Armilo 15 lb and eliminate the FC issues.

[Shif29]

1 hour ago, WRB said:

A fishing partner had ReelSnot line line conditioner so I gave it try and didn't like it for 2 reasons; 1) it gets everywhere on your hands the reel handle and is extremely slippery coating, 2) it doesn't wet the line with water reducing line memory. It does lubricate the line like LPS silicone spray does. Fluorocarbon line isn't hygroscopic and sheds water and it's water that helps to keep the line on the spool.

KVD line conditioner is popular but needs several hours to work. I use a product called Tangle Free by Punisher Lures, hard to find since BPS bought Cabela's and no longer carries it.

I would pull off about 30'feet of line, respray then wind on the line and spray a second time. Whip off the reel with WD-40 and wash your hands with soap and water. Let the reel set for 30 minutes and give it another try.

Tom

PS, Defier Armilo 15 lb and eliminate the FC issues.

thinking about just respooling everything back to mono. 

[jbrew73]

5 hours ago, WRB said:

A fishing partner had ReelSnot line line conditioner so I gave it try and didn't like it for 2 reasons; 1) it gets everywhere on your hands the reel handle and is extremely slippery coating, 2) it doesn't wet the line with water reducing line memory. It does lubricate the line like LPS silicone spray does. Fluorocarbon line isn't hygroscopic and sheds water and it's water that helps to keep the line on the spool.

KVD line conditioner is popular but needs several hours to work. I use a product called Tangle Free by Punisher Lures, hard to find since BPS bought Cabela's and no longer carries it.

I would pull off about 30'feet of line, respray then wind on the line and spray a second time. Whip off the reel with WD-40 and wash your hands with soap and water. Let the reel set for 30 minutes and give it another try.

Tom

PS, Defier Armilo 15 lb and eliminate the FC issues.

What do you mean  by “whip off the reel with wd40”? Like the outside to clean it or on the line?

 

 

[WRB]

12 minutes ago, jbrew73 said:

What do you mean  by “whip off the reel with wd40”? Like the outside to clean it or on the line?

 

 

The outside of the reel and crank handle pads so you don't accidentally cast the rod & reel overboard using that slippery ReelSnot line conditioner.

ps, wipe not whip.

[Hammer 4]

Spooled my spinning reel (2500) with 8lb sniper. Went fishing for a few hrs. at the local park lake. Line cast's well, 0 memory, until....A nice gust of wind came along as I was casting, I was watching my line hit the water and didn't notice a good sized wind loop/ knot until I had reeled in about 3 or 4 yards of line argh!!..couldn't get the knot out. But I'm pretty happy with the line so far. BTW, no line conditioner used.

[ChrisD46]

On 9/3/2019 at 9:38 AM, Bassattackr said:

Not wild about Sniper FC for that same reason, had too much memory.   I prefer Seaguar Invizx in larger line sizes.

*Typically - the more sensitive and lower stretch  the FC line is  , the more memory you are likely to encounter . InvizX has more stretch thus it is less sensitive than Sniper FC . InvizX is fine for cranking or jerkbaits - but for bottom dragging baits , drop shot , shaky head or Ned rig I believe the Sniper FC to be better in those applications .

[ike8120]

I had the same issue this past weekend with a coploymer line, My issue was that I over spooled the reel. Once I removed some line I didn't have an issue. The general rule is line should be 1/16" to 1/8 " from the top of the spool. 

[Fishohio]

I use Sniper never had any issues even on spinning.

7lb  on spinning

12lb on cranking

17lb on jig and flipping

 

14lb big game mono for top water.

 

[Todd2]

On 9/7/2019 at 3:24 PM, Shif29 said:

thinking about just respooling everything back to mono. 

Spend that $18 for a 1000 yard spool of Trilene XT and be done with it.

[Shif29]

1 hour ago, Todd2 said:

Spend that $18 for a 1000 yard spool of Trilene XT and be done with it.

Bought some invizx and i like it so far, i  definitely like it more than the sniper so far, however i did get a bad spool. But that 1000 yard spool of Trilene will still be less expensive that 165 yards of sniper that is in a box after a week...

[WRB]

There is zero difference between 12 lb InvisX and Sniper regarding memory, both are .011D. I used both and could determine any difference in performance, casting, knot strength or abrasion resistance. If you 2 reels spooled with each line you wouldn't know what reel had what line unless you labeled the reel.

Trilene XT is a very large diameter mono with high memory; 12 lb is .015D vs Big Game at .014D, 15 lb is .015D. Big Game is 1/2 the price of XT and better line IMO and I have fished with both. 10 lb Big Game at .012D  is close to InvisX / Sniper FC 12 lb .

Tom

[LegendaryBassin]

4 minutes ago, WRB said:

There is zero difference between 12 lb InvisX and Sniper regarding memory, both are .011D. I used both and could determine any difference in performance, casting, knot strength or abrasion resistance. If you 2 reels spooled with each line you wouldn't know what reel had what line unless you labeled the reel.

Trilene XT is a very large diameter mono with high memory; 12 lb is .015D vs Big Game at .014D, 15 lb is .015D. Big Game is 1/2 the price of XT and better line IMO and I have fished with both. 10 lb Big Game at .012D  is close to InvisX / Sniper FC 12 lb .

Tom

It is easy to tell the difference. Invizx is much more supple. 

[Shif29]

4 minutes ago, WRB said:

There is zero difference between 12 lb InvisX and Sniper regarding memory, both are .011D. I used both and could determine any difference in performance, casting, knot strength or abrasion resistance. If you 2 reels spooled with each line you wouldn't know what reel had what line unless you labeled the reel.

Trilene XT is a very large diameter mono with high memory; 12 lb is .015D vs Big Game at .014D, 15 lb is .015D. Big Game is 1/2 the price of XT and better line IMO and I have fished with both. 10 lb Big Game at .012D  is close to InvisX / Sniper FC 12 lb .

Tom

Like I said, the spool of sniper i bought must have been a bad spool and that is why it was like a slinky coming off my reel. The spool of Invizx i bought seems to be nice and i have not had any problems with it so far. I am sure that a good spool of sniper and a good spool of invizX are equal quality. Also, roger that I will consider big game.

2 minutes ago, LegendaryBassin said:

It is easy to tell the difference. Invizx is much more supple. 

I spooled up my jig rod with 15 pound invizX and you are right it is very "supple" for being 15 pound line, and so far I haven't noticed how it is not very "abrasion resistant" despite what other people say, and I have drug it through a lot of trees in the past week and over some rock.