Using O rings with wacky worm setup?

[eightydee]

So, I recently had to restock on my favorite color of senkos that I use in a wacky worm setup. I actually go throw a bag every two weeks actually. I just got straight through the worm.

I just got a lot from Amazon of 30 for like 8 bucks and it came with O rings. Just curious on what opinions are on them? Obviously, prolongs the worm but from attracting fish wise? Any difference?

[rtwvumtneer6]

I typically use 2 two o-rings and cross them, so the hook point is positioned in the same way it would be if I were to hook through the bait.  I feel like this angle helps with hook up ratio.  Doesn't seem to have any effect on the number of bites I get, but my stick baits last much longer.  

[JediAmoeba]

All they do is allow your bait to last longer which is a huge bonus.

[NorthernBasser]

I always do. Make sure you get one of these as well. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-Fishing-Ring-Rigging-Senkos/dp/B07CCZQ9R2

[eightydee]

17 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

I always do. Make sure you get one of these as well. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-Fishing-Ring-Rigging-Senkos/dp/B07CCZQ9R2

I was actually going to get one of those tools that came with a few senkos but I have never seen that thing before now do I know anyone who has one or used one.

 

Which brings me to now, the worms are just drenched in some oil. I had to use a needle nose to get the O ring on. I'll give them a try.

 

Maybe I'll try these next: https://www.amazon.com/Real-Fish-Yamamoto-Needed-Rigging/dp/B07NCTH9YY/ref=pd_sbs_200_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07NCTH9YY&pd_rd_r=86f88ceb-7ab7-4e14-8f87-267d6f83029b&pd_rd_w=oTRu0&pd_rd_wg=F1kR5&pf_rd_p=43281256-7633-49c8-b909-7ffd7d8cb21e&pf_rd_r=J6AAQHSBRM6DRJJ2FZCJ&refRID=J6AAQHSBRM6DRJJ2FZCJ

[Fishes in trees]

How weird - I would imagine that stick worms drenched in some sort of oil and the o-rings would slide on easier.  If they slide on easier, it stands to reason that they would slide off easier as well.  I have one of those o-ring tools, but most of time time I don't use it - it seems like just a little slobber and the o-rings slide on just fine.  I have to be a little careful putting on the o-rings so that I don't tear the senko.

Were the o-rings the correct size?   I have found that 3/8 o.d. ( outside diameter)/ 1/4 i.d. ( inside diameter) to work best for me, in that they stay put where I put them on the body of the worm.     Several years ago, I bought a couple of thousand of them, because I was tired of buying them buy the each from Ace Hardware.  I fish senkos quite a bit and I still have a lot left.  For me the just is still out as to if it is better to use one ring, or have 2 crossed over.  I've caught fish both ways.   I think that you will miss an equal amount of fish no matter how you rig the o-rings - one, which puts the hook in line with the bait or two crossed, which puts the hook at a 90 degree angle to the bait.  I keep telling myself that I ought to pay more attention to the quality of bites, how the hits happen and so forth, so that I could get a bitter idea of how to rig the hook, but I haven't so far.

[eightydee]

I actually got introduced to senkos last summer. This old guy who I just kept fishing with gave me a few. He hooked it up for me, I casted it. He told me, wait, let it sink and reel slow. I started to reel and I thought I was snagged in cabage. Then my drag just went. First ever time using a senko, caught the biggest small mouth I've caught. I don't keep them, I get to much walleyes from my grandpa, so I asked the guy if he wanted it since he basically introduced me to a new way of fishing. He had a good supper that night.

I used to just hate the thought of fishing with something fake rubbery and boring. I grew up just knowing to fish for northerns so, spinners, husky jerks, etc. But this summer, it's been senkos 90 percent of the time. Frogs the rest.

 

My technuiqe is cast, don't close the reel, take a puff of my ecig, than close the reel than slowly light the rod up. When I feel bumps, I stop than give it a little more stregnth. Most of the time it's cabage but when a fish bites down, I slowly pull back, I see the wake from my line moving than PULL. I land the fish about 90 percent of the time. Still feels pretty awesome when they take off. But also, with senkos (wackys) you get a few more chances.

 

I know, I talk a lot. I do have A.D.D. and sitting in my kayak at my favorite spots, even if I don't land any, I get hard hits and that gets your blood flowing. I'm actually sick. It was sweatshirt weather here in Soda and it was raining and I went out and stayed out for a few hours. Now I'm feeling it. But Man, that was a fun way to get sick!

 

I created another topic regarding scents. Like currently I have my new batch of senkos in a pencil box with a open bag of garlic powder. Removes the human scent and maybe provides more of a attractant, eh?

[Hammer 4]

Never used them..I like buying Senco's...

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I don't like the O rings, I use slices of surgical tubing, allows me to hook the bait parallel or perpendicular, and I can hook just the tubing, or the bait also, much more versatile, and I have a ton of surgical tubing laying around from salt water fishing. In a pinch, small rubber bands (kiddie hair or old school dental ones) work well.

[dodgeguy]

That senko tool came out the day after the senko.

So far in Southern NY this summer the senko has been useless except for one day. It used to be a great bait.

[Dens228]

For me Yum Dingers last for several fish so an O ring is optional.  

Senko's and Strike King Ocho's I get one fish, two at most unless I use an O ring. 

[NHBull]

For wacky, 2 and hook ends up perpendicular 

For NECO, 1 hook point toward tail

[dodgeguy]

Use o ring get 8

[Spankey]

12 hours ago, eightydee said:

I was actually going to get one of those tools that came with a few senkos but I have never seen that thing before now do I know anyone who has one or used one.

 

Which brings me to now, the worms are just drenched in some oil. I had to use a needle nose to get the O ring on. I'll give them a try.

 

Maybe I'll try these next: https://www.amazon.com/Real-Fish-Yamamoto-Needed-Rigging/dp/B07NCTH9YY/ref=pd_sbs_200_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07NCTH9YY&pd_rd_r=86f88ceb-7ab7-4e14-8f87-267d6f83029b&pd_rd_w=oTRu0&pd_rd_wg=F1kR5&pf_rd_p=43281256-7633-49c8-b909-7ffd7d8cb21e&pf_rd_r=J6AAQHSBRM6DRJJ2FZCJ&refRID=J6AAQHSBRM6DRJJ2FZCJ

I would just buy the “0” ring mandrill and forget about it. I know I am not that interested in the rings with the sm. ring for the wacky hook. The hook is not where I want it to be. I use the o rings and still penetrate the bait slightly some with the hook. 

[OnthePotomac]

I have never used a tool to place an O ring.  Smelly Jelly the worm and just slide on the O ring.

[fishwizzard]

7 hours ago, BassWhole! said:

I don't like the O rings, I use slices of surgical tubing, allows me to hook the bait parallel or perpendicular, and I can hook just the tubing, or the bait also, much more versatile, and I have a ton of surgical tubing laying around from salt water fishing. In a pinch, small rubber bands (kiddie hair or old school dental ones) work well.

What size tubing?  I have never messed with the stuff and don’t know how much it stretches.  

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5 hours ago, fishwizzard said:

What size tubing?  I have never messed with the stuff and don’t know how much it stretches.  

Something with an ID about 1/16" smaller than the bait you want to use. It stretches a bunch, but I just want it snug, not cutting off the worm's circulation. I mostly use trick worms and Senko clones for wacky rigging, so I only use 2 sizes. We use "hoses" for bluefish, which are dyed surgical tubing cut diagonally on one end. I just cut those with a razor or scissors, You can also get it by the foot at surgical supply places.

[eightydee]

Ahh, after today. I decided to use O rings. I bought a cheap 30 pack of senkos off Amazon. Could be the quality but today I literally went through 4 with a totally of 7 bass. So, I'll use the O rings. Hahha

[tcbass]

O rings didn't work for me but a fellow fisherman suggested rubber hose and it works great. I've had one Senko last nearly all season. 

 

 

 

[moguy1973]

I've found that a 100 pack of Goody rubber hair bands from Walmart work just as good if not better and cheaper than O-rings.  I use the medium sized ones and double them to make an X and I put the hook under the X so the hook is perpendicular to the worm.  Gets better hook ups that way.  Color doesn't matter on the bands either as I've used black, white, green, pink, whatever color they have in stock.

 

I've tried tubing and shrink wrap tubing and had nothing but horrible results with the fish just sucking the worm right out from the tubing.

[txchaser]

Lake Fork Tackle makes a weighted wacky rig, but on the 1/16 black the weight seems to be in the hook itself. So a couple of bucks for a metal (aluminum? very light) ring that fits the 5" perfectly. Use whatever hook you like.

 

I was really tired of the o-rings chopping the senkos in half. Now, they don't last forever (a head shake above water will still throw the worm) but they last at least twice as long and you don't have to fiddle. 

 

http://lftlures.com/catalog/wacky-hook-weight-system