Spiderwire

[billmac]

I'm fishing with 3 rigged rods.  Two casters and a spinning rig.  At the advice of folks on this board I've got my M/H baitcaster spooled with 30lb braid. I'm using Spiderwire.  It's OK, but it feels like I'm using a thick cable on my reel and I'm not casting great.  Is spiderwire thicker than other braids?  I've used braid before and always spiderwire.  It's inexpensive and easily available locally.   But I don't think I've gone this heavy.  

[jr231]

I'd go to like 15lb on the spinning gear. 

 

Loosen your spool tension on the bait caster ? I use 40lb power pro on my bait casters and can cast very far. I doubt the diameter is much different but I'm sure you can find this answer out by looking at your box of spiderwire and comparing the diameter to other braids. 

[billmac]

11 minutes ago, Yeajray231 said:

I'd go to like 15lb on the spinning gear. 

I think I'm using 10lb braid on my spinning setup.  It hasn't been a problem.

[JediAmoeba]

Is it the spiderwire stealth or the regular spiderwire?  The stealth is about half the thickness and thus more limber.  The regular spiderwire is about the same thickness as the regular power pro...

 

Not all braid was created equally.  There are, 4, 8 and even up to 16 carrier braids which is the number of strands spun together to form a line. The more strands the stronger the braid, the more smooth it is and the "rounder" it usually is...

 

 

[billmac]

2 minutes ago, JediAmoeba said:

Is it the spiderwire stealth or the regular spiderwire?

Regular

[islandbass]

The your 30# braid has an 8# mono equivalent, then it is the same as many other braids.

[billmac]

Yeah, it's probably just me, but it feels thick.

[jr231]

You can go lighter but the braid is more likely to dig in to itself on the spool. How long have you been using the bait casters ? What was it spoiled with before . ?  

[Russ E]

With baitcasters 30 pound braid is the lightest I would go. I prefer 40 pound and above.

Personally Spiderwire is the worst braid I have ever used. It may be cheaper, but you get what you pay for.

I have had strange breakoffs and a lot of fraying of the line. It seems to fall apart after minimal use.

power pro or one of the suffix lines are much more reliable. power pro is my favorite.

I have a few rods that have had the same power pro spooled after 3 years of heavy use.

 

[jr231]

I agree and wouldn't go less than 30lb either. I think his spool tension is too tight. 

 

I've used spider wire but it was 12 years ago when I was 14 and bought it because it looked cool. I quickly found out how much farther I casted on my spinning gear compared to the cheap mono I was using. I switched to the power pro before I started using bait casters as I grew older and had a little more money. I bought it for the hi-vis yellow and never looked back . 

 

I never had issues with break offs with the spider wire but i didn't put it to the test every day. And switched before I could afford a bait caster of my own. 

[billmac]

The baitcaster is new.  I've used spiderwire for years but nothing this heavy.  I'm probably just not used to it.  I too have not had any issues with break offs.  Bite offs are a different story.

[jr231]

Are you new to bait casters entirely ? If so, it's your spool tension. As I suspected in my first post.  Be careful loosening it tho, gradually do it after each cast or you'll end up with a nasty backlash . 

[billmac]

2 minutes ago, Yeajray231 said:

Are you new to bait casters entirely ?

No. My first baitcaster was a Daiwa Millionaire I bought in the late 70s.  I loved that reel.

[bowhunter63]

6 minutes ago, billmac said:

No. My first baitcaster was a Daiwa Millionaire I bought in the late 70s.  I loved that reel.

Yep me too They were great reels

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[jr231]

What reel are you using now ? 

[Big Rick]

1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said:

Is it the spiderwire stealth or the regular spiderwire?  The stealth is about half the thickness and thus more limber.  The regular spiderwire is about the same thickness as the regular power pro...

 

Not all braid was created equally.  There are, 4, 8 and even up to 16 carrier braids which is the number of strands spun together to form a line. The more strands the stronger the braid, the more smooth it is and the "rounder" it usually is...

 

 

A word of caution on the higher carrier braids.... If you are using a sliding weight, as in a Texas rig or punching, DON'T go with a higher carrier than 5. That's because the higher the carrier the thinner the strands and those strands fray very quickly with the weight sliding. Even if you use a bobber stopper the weight will fray the line and thus weaken it right at the knot. And it don't take but a few cast to start noticing it. Tungsten accelerates this as well on higher carriers. 

 

That said, that is the ONLY negative I have found with the higher carrier braids. They are smoother, more limp, and cast like a dream. And it seems the color last longer as well. 

[billmac]

46 minutes ago, Yeajray231 said:

What reel are you using now ? 

Kastking Royale Legend

[jr231]

Ok, I believe they are still a sight sponsor and we aren't supposed to bash companies in general I have the kast king Royale . Not the legend. It is my least favorite reel . That's a discussion for another thread. 

 

I don't think it's the braid. Good fishing to you. 

[dodgeguy]

6 hours ago, Big Rick said:

A word of caution on the higher carrier braids.... If you are using a sliding weight, as in a Texas rig or punching, DON'T go with a higher carrier than 5. That's because the higher the carrier the thinner the strands and those strands fray very quickly with the weight sliding. Even if you use a bobber stopper the weight will fray the line and thus weaken it right at the knot. And it don't take but a few cast to start noticing it. Tungsten accelerates this as well on higher carriers. 

 

That said, that is the ONLY negative I have found with the higher carrier braids. They are smoother, more limp, and cast like a dream. And it seems the color last longer as well. 

Never ever peg my weight on Sufix 832 and have never had that issue.