FL_Basshole Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 I know this is a heavily brought up topic, but after doing research for the last 2 weeks, I’m still no closer to making a decision. Throughout my fishing career I’ve never really given a tremendous amount of thought to my rods. I could always catch plenty with average gear. I’ve been looking to get a new rod and cannot make a decision to save my life. I’m looking for a sensitive 7ft-7’3ft / medium or medium/light fast action spinning rod for senko fishing. I’ve been looking in the $100-$200 range. A lot of threads with this similar question say a Dobyn Fury, St Croix mojo, etc... I’ve found other people who swear that Duckett triad or Falcon Bucco sr are way better. I thought maybe I should just bite the bullet and get a G-loomis imx, but still there’s people who say even that isn’t worth the money. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Thanks Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 26, 2019 Super User Posted August 26, 2019 Don't want to add to your confushion what size Senko's, hooks and line type are you using? Tom Quote
Deeare Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Check out the kistler klx. They are $270 but they are always having sales up to 25% so that will get down to $200. Sign up for their mailing list to get the notifications. Quote
FL_Basshole Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, WRB said: Don't want to add to your confushion what size Senko's, hooks and line type are you using? Tom Standard size senkos. 4/0 and generally 8-10lb braid Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 26, 2019 Super User Posted August 26, 2019 Welcome aboard! Do you have a Bass Pro/Cabelas nearby? And I'm asking as I assume, if you do, you've been there already. I really don't think you need to go much over the $100 mark to find a great rod. Brands are really in the eye of the beholder. I happen to like St. Croix Premier, BPS Carbonlite, etc.... I also happen to like shorter rods, so.... Quote
FL_Basshole Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Deeare said: Check out the kistler klx. They are $270 but they are always having sales up to 25% so that will get down to $200. Sign up for their mailing list to get the notifications. I''ll look. I'm not opposed to spending more, but still a lot of people say a $300 rod is only slightly better than a $150 rod. I love having a lot of options in the market, but they drive me crazy lol Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 26, 2019 Super User Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, FL_Basshole said: Standard size senkos. 4/0 and generally 8-10lb braid 5" and 6" with 4/0 hook, ML maybe a little too light! Tom Quote
FL_Basshole Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, WRB said: 5" and 6" with 4/0 hook, ML maybe a little too light! Tom agreed, medium is certainly my preference 4 minutes ago, Darren. said: Welcome aboard! Do you have a Bass Pro/Cabelas nearby? And I'm asking as I assume, if you do, you've been there already. I really don't think you need to go much over the $100 mark to find a great rod. Brands are really in the eye of the beholder. I happen to like St. Croix Premier, BPS Carbonlite, etc.... I also happen to like shorter rods, so.... That's always been my train of thought. I figured I'd treat myself to something better, it's certainly possible that I'm getting caught up in thinking I need something nicer. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 26, 2019 Super User Posted August 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, FL_Basshole said: agreed, medium is certainly my preference That's always been my train of thought. I figured I'd treat myself to something better, it's certainly possible that I'm getting caught up in thinking I need something nicer. If you are someone with money to spare, then rock on and buy the rod of your dreams. But if not, buy affordable, and stay w/in your budget (oh if only I'd have listened to this advice years ago, LOL) you'll be happy and catching some beasts to hang on a wall! 1 Quote
FL_Basshole Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Darren. said: If you are someone with money to spare, then rock on and buy the rod of your dreams. But if not, buy affordable, and stay w/in your budget (oh if only I'd have listened to this advice years ago, LOL) you'll be happy and catching some beasts to hang on a wall! Yea I have some $ I'm frugal in life except when it comes to fishing and hunting lol. I wish more of my fishing buddies had nice rods to see if I'm actually missing out on something. 1 Quote
LCG Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 I would highly recommend the Bass Pro Shop Carbonite 2.0 6'8" M-Xf for weightless senko either Texas rigged or Wacky rigged. Sensitive, light weight, affordable, and very comfortable to hold. St Croix, gloomis, Shimano, Fenwick, and a few other brands offer good value as well. 1 Quote
FL_Basshole Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, LCG said: I would highly recommend the Bass Pro Shop Carbonite 2.0 6'8" M-Xf for weightless senko either Texas rigged or Wacky rigged. Sensitive, light weight, affordable, and very comfortable to hold. St Croix, gloomis, Shimano, Fenwick, and a few other brands offer good value as well. I'll check it out Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted August 26, 2019 Super User Posted August 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, FL_Basshole said: Yea I have some $ I'm frugal in life except when it comes to fishing and hunting lol. I wish more of my fishing buddies had nice rods to see if I'm actually missing out on something. If you want to try a "nice rod" without spending a ton, look for an old-model IMX rod on eBay. You can often find them for under $150 and imho they are stil a steal at that price. 2 Quote
Super User Scott F Posted August 26, 2019 Super User Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, FL_Basshole said: I know this is a heavily brought up topic, but after doing research for the last 2 weeks, I’m still no closer to making a decision. Throughout my fishing career I’ve never really given a tremendous amount of thought to my rods. I could always catch plenty with average gear. I’ve been looking to get a new rod and cannot make a decision to save my life. I’m looking for a sensitive 7ft-7’3ft / medium or medium/light fast action spinning rod for senko fishing. I’ve been looking in the $100-$200 range. A lot of threads with this similar question say a Dobyn Fury, St Croix mojo, etc... I’ve found other people who swear that Duckett triad or Falcon Bucco sr are way better. I thought maybe I should just bite the bullet and get a G-loomis imx, but still there’s people who say even that isn’t worth the money. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Thanks Don’t over think it. In your price range, there aren’t any bad rods. Honestly, there aren’t a lot of guys in a blind test who could tell the different rods apart. 4 Quote
Derek1 Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Just get the carbonlite 2.0 in 6’6”-7-0”. You won’t be disappointed. In ml or m. 1 Quote
JediAmoeba Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 As previously said , your price range provides a lot of great options. The real question you need to answer is what material and what length grip you like - I think that is the most decided factor for a person to fall in love with a rod. Cork, eva foam, full length, split grip, etc. Personally I like split grips and really like cork. 1 Quote
Hulkster Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 check out the 2018 model Loomis E6X JWR 892S. its awesome although i havent used a senko on it, it is a soft plastics rod. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 26, 2019 Super User Posted August 26, 2019 I will offer you some advice based on where you are located and what presentations you plan to use. Major Craft NAS WJ 701 MH is the rod for your application. I realize everyone else is suggesting a different rod but none of them are hall of fame bass anglers and this is the rod Don Iovino uses for 5" to 6" Senko's and the rod I use. Tom 1 Quote
Mikeltee Posted August 27, 2019 Posted August 27, 2019 20 years ago there were no technique specific rods and people caught just as many fish as today. The lightest you want is a M-MH and it will shine for weightless however if you are going to add weights you want a MH which will also be fine for weightless. I'd suggest a bait casting rig for any senko presentation. I assure you if you enjoy bass fishing you will upgrade to a baitcaster by next season and the purchase you make now will collect dust. Dicks had a champion 734 which is a great rod for $160 and it retails at $250. You can do just about any presentation with that rod. It's by far the best bang for the buck. Learn to throw a baitcaster and you will enjoy your time on the water much more. Adding on... For non-moving baits you want the most sensitive rod you can afford. Stay clear of the Fury series and the like. You can afford the Champion line and you will have a much better chance to feel fish flirting with your bait. Anything less pretty much guarantees a broomstick in the MH power range. With medium you can go cheap because they are all super sensitive, even an Ugly Stick. That would be for finesse/light wire presentations and you would want more power to drive those EWG and whacky hooks home. Dropshot, neko, mushrooms heads are usually light wire. Quote
JediAmoeba Posted August 27, 2019 Posted August 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, Mikeltee said: 20 years ago there were no technique specific rods and people caught just as many fish as today. Nope. I am convinced all the fish I lost 20 years ago is due to the fact I had the incorrect equipment. All the fish I lose today is due to faulty equipment. User error is never a factor. It's funny - I remember burning spinnerbaits on the surface more than 20 years ago with a 4.5:1 ratio reel and a 6 foot ugly stick with no problems. These days I have to make sure I have the right MH rod and a high speed 8.1:1 ratio reel... 1 2 Quote
Mikeltee Posted August 27, 2019 Posted August 27, 2019 Definately faulty equipment. I would urge everyone to get a second mortgage and buy 3 NRXs and 3 Steez AGSs for every specific technique and have 3 colors of the lure ready to go. You will then be guaranteed to catch more fish and losing fish will no longer be part of your vocabulary. 1 Quote
Big Rick Posted August 27, 2019 Posted August 27, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 11:19 PM, WRB said: I will offer you some advice based on where you are located and what presentations you plan to use. Major Craft NAS WJ 701 MH is the rod for your application. I realize everyone else is suggesting a different rod but none of them are hall of fame bass anglers and this is the rod Don Iovino uses for 5" to 6" Senko's and the rod I use. Tom Tom, Where do you find this little known jewel? A quick search only netter flea-bay for me..... Update: I found the website..... I'm a doofus. or blind... or BOTH.... https://majorcraft-america.com/product/nanoace-spinning/ Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted August 27, 2019 Super User Posted August 27, 2019 40-50 years ago my dad drove cars without power steering just fine, but I don’t think he would go without it today. Just because something worked in the past doesn’t mean that no improvements are possible. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 27, 2019 Super User Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Big Rick said: Tom, Where do you find this little known jewel? A quick search only netter flea-bay for me..... Update: I found the website..... I'm a doofus. or blind... or BOTH.... https://majorcraft-america.com/product/nanoace-spinning/ Checked the model number NAS-WJ701MH is correct. My source was Iovino, did a quick internet search and found the rod on Japanese sites and a few references for eBay? Tom Quote
Bassattackr Posted August 27, 2019 Posted August 27, 2019 I would get a 7' Medium power, fast action rod. Long enough to pitch around and short enough to still skip docks. Personally, I like the Abu Villain 2.0 although they are since discontinued you may be able to find a deal on one. Quote
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