Why hard to find CX Premium?

[govallis]

Recently I started using Floroclear and love it. So I would like to try the CX Premium for its smaller diameter, but almost no local store carry it, or only the color ones available.

 

Wonder why stores all prefer Floroclear to CX? I read many negative posts here about the former.

 

Both are fluorocarbon coated, but why Pline never mark the CX as "invisible" as well? I like smaller diameter but if invisibility is lost then I won't try hard to find the CX. On the other hand, Floroclear is not marked as less stretch; is it significantly more than CX? I found it is much less than C21 and mono, very acceptable to me.

[KP Duty]

Cx premium is very good line.  I wish they made it in clear.  

[govallis]

They do make it in clear, just very difficult to find in stores.

[islandbass]

I guess you have to come up to the Pacific Northwest. It’s well stocked here and I am

a fan of CX premium and CXX. 

[govallis]

I found some. 12# Moss green and 15# Hi-Vis. I measured their diameters, exactly the same as Floroclear, 0.31 mm and 0.36 mm. The CX just has smaller numbers on the package, 0.29 and 0.34, while the measured values match those on the floroclear package. So, there is no point to go for CX's smaller diameters.

 

On the back of the moss green, it does list "virtually invisible" as one of the features. So there is no worry about the invisibility, must be the same to floroclear too.

 

As for stretch, I guess not much difference neither, but I'll test them out.

 

 

[zell_pop1]

I've used both and floroclear breaks easier, I'd go CX if it were me.

[Drew03cmc]

Floroclear is junk. Give me CX.

[moguy1973]

I was scared for a while that P-Line stopped making CX Premium as I couldn't find it at any of my local stores and it seemed like everywhere online was out of stock also.  But it came back.  It's my favorite line with CXX a close second for heavier cover stuff.  I used to like YoZuri Hybrid but it got too curly if I didn't use it enough even with some KVD Line and Lure sprayed on it.  Most of my stores now carry the blue fluorescent, moss green, and hi-viz CX Premium.  Haven't really found the clear anywhere for a long time but I usually just use the moss green stuff and it works great.

 

*I just realized the "clear" is the blue fluorescent that I see at stores. 

[govallis]

In the last week, I already have had 2-3 unexpected breaks with Floroclear. This reminds me the Vanish. Ever since I changed to Red Label, I have not got a single break for a year now. The Red Label is too stiff, even though I use it as leader only. That's why I started looking for something between fluorocarbon and copolymer.

 

So I'm done with the Floroclear, even though I love it on everything else, especially the silk casting.

 

I went out and bought 8# and 10# CX. Hopefully they won't break like the Floroclear. The measured diameters, again, are much larger than the numbers on the package:

 

CX --- actual diameter --- claimed diameter

8# --- 0.26 --- 0.23

10# --- 0.30 --- 0.27

12# --- 0.31 --- 0.29

15# --- 0.37 --- 0.34

 

Floroclear --- actual diameter --- claimed diameter

8# --- 0.26 --- 0.25

10# --- 0.30 --- 0.29

12# --- 0.31 --- 0.31

15# --- #.## --- 0.36

 

Now I can firmly say: "CX has a smaller diameter" is a false claim. As you can see, these two lines are exactly the same on diameters. The CX just have smaller numbers printed on the package.

 

Another interesting thing is, 12# is barely 0.01 mm larger than 10#. Actually one is more like .31+ and the other 0.31-. The last time I noticed such a thing was the South Bend mono sold in Walmart, the difference between 10 and 12 is barely measurable, while the latter is indeed slightly stronger. So, there is virtually no point for the 10# version of these lines.

 

Also, 15# is a lot larger than 12#. So unless one really needs the extra strength, don't go 15#. The difference between 12/10# and 8# is also significant, so it makes sense to go 8# when a thinner line is needed.

 

I'd say for these lines, 12# is the optimal; go 8# or 15# if really needed.

[WRB]

On August 15, 2019 at 9:48 AM, govallis said:

Recently I started using Floroclear and love it. So I would like to try the CX Premium for its smaller diameter, but almost no local store carry it, or only the color ones available.

 

Wonder why stores all prefer Floroclear to CX? I read many negative posts here about the former.

 

Both are fluorocarbon coated, but why Pline never mark the CX as "invisible" as well? I like smaller diameter but if invisibility is lost then I won't try hard to find the CX. On the other hand, Floroclear is not marked as less stretch; is it significantly more than CX? I found it is much less than C21 and mono, very acceptable to me.

PLine is promoting their C21 coploymer line, CX is being phsased outdo to due poor sales.

Tom

[govallis]

27 minutes ago, WRB said:

PLine is promoting their C21 coploymer line, CX is being phsased outdo to due poor sales.

Tom

For more than a year, I have been using a single spool of C21 12# on two 30 spinning reels, no problem at all, fresh and salt water. Yes, the same spool, never replaced with a new spool. As I said above, I used Red Label as a leader and lately I realized how stiff it is. I was trying to use fluorocarbon coated lines to replace the red label for leader, then I thought why not use it as main line too?

 

I'll see how well the CX will do. If it works well, then it'll be very sad to see it phasing out. If it fails too, I'll go back to C21 for both main line and leader and scaled down to 10# that has the same actual diameter of 12# CX.

[WRB]

I used CXX line for awhile and didn't like the fact it turned white as it absorbed water.

I switched back to Maxima Ultra green for coploymer line.

Tom  

[govallis]

C21 is the same, turning milky white after some time. That's one of the reasons for me to try fluorocarbon coated. I took a look at the Maxima, I did not know it was copolymer. Its on-paper diameter is larger, like the C21. For example, 12# is 0.33 mm instead of 0.31 of CX. Memory seems bad and I never had a memory problem with C21.

 

I'm not going to try more lines, especially expensive ones. If CX disappoints me, I'll simply go back to C21. At least I pay the least and it does not have major issues. My local store often has it on sale for less than $4 and one spool lasts at least a year for me, really cannot complain.

 

C21 --- Measured --- On package

15# --- 0.36 --- 0.34

12# --- 0.33~0.34 --- 0.29

10# --- 0.30~0.31 --- 0.27

[DenhamBruce]

If you want CX but cant get your hands on it try CXX in the same diameter you're looking for. I'm pretty sure they're the same thing but the "tougher" CXX has a larger diameter for any given Lb test.

[govallis]

CXX is much more expensive and not fluoro coated, I see no point of it over the C21.

 

Tried 12# moss green CX and caught about 30 panfish. It cast extremely well for 1/64 lure (Trout Magnet), even better with a 1/16 oz sinker and small bubble. No problem at all, all fantastic. I'll need more time to see how durable; if that's no problem neither, then Pline is stupid to phase out this line by filling stores with Floroclear.

 

I was trying to see if I need 8#, main line or leader, for panfish. Seems I don't need. The 12# is thinner than the C21 and cast extremely well. The line must be thin and limp enough for the tiny lure to perform well, otherwise could not have caught 30 within two hours. Hopefully this line will stay so supple after more use.

 

The line had very good bite detection too, even for panfish, a lot louder and firmer than C21. Just this alone is worth the extra $4, no need to mention the added invisibility, water absorption and abrasion resistance by the floro coating.

 

If this line can stay with its characters for couple months, then this is really the perfect line for everything, really has the both virtues of fluorocarbon and copolymer.

[Dramer77]

I love Cx premium, I was not a fan of cxx.... I’ve bought mine from amazon this year 

[govallis]

The 12# CX has worked like a charm in freshwater (no rocks).

 

Went jetty fishing today and used the 12# CX as the main line and a leader. It is no Seaguar that I have used for a year without a single break. Learned it the hard way. Hooked up a lingcod that's more than 2 feet long and the leader broke. Switched leader back to Seaguar, no more break.