Super User bowhunter63 Posted August 24, 2019 Super User Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 8:15 PM, bayvalle said: Thx. I just ordered some Paca Craws to try. I've been hearing good things from a number of sources. Just curious, what others have you tried? Zoom z craw, Christy craw Paca craw. 1 Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted August 24, 2019 Super User Posted August 24, 2019 get a bottle of mend-it and keep the ones which are repairable. But like the others have said, don't give us a lure that is catching fish. Quote
Shimano_1 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 I've tried most and went into it thinking I could find a cheaper alternative. All I managed to do was waste a lot of money figuring out the rage craw is my favorite. Money I could've used on more rage craws. I do like cabin creek Express craws on my finesse jigs. Very similar action to rage craws. Have had very good success with them Quote
waymont Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 Netbait Paca chunk and craw. The Z-Man Turbo Craw. I never drank the Rage Kool-Ade. 1 Quote
moguy1973 Posted August 24, 2019 Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Chris at Tech said: get a bottle of mend-it and keep the ones which are repairable. But like the others have said, don't give us a lure that is catching fish. When a fish shakes it's head and both claws go flying off into the water it's hard to use mend-it on them The bodies of Rage Craws are plenty durable but they don't catch many fish without at least one claw still attached. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 25, 2019 Super User Posted August 25, 2019 Bass can't rip off the soft plastic craw claws unless you hook set too quickly. Smallmouth and Spotted bass tend to strike the claws, LMB engulf the entire craw. If you hook set when the bass has hold of the claws they get ripped off. Change your timing not the trialer. Tom 2 Quote
bayvalle Posted August 25, 2019 Author Posted August 25, 2019 11 hours ago, WRB said: Bass can't rip off the soft plastic craw claws unless you hook set too quickly. Smallmouth and Spotted bass tend to strike the claws, LMB engulf the entire craw. If you hook set when the bass has hold of the claws they get ripped off. Change your timing not the trialer. Tom I didn't try to set the hook I was just dragging it slowly. We don't have any SM bass in the lake I was fishing. But on another note I have had basss carry my jig under my kayak then when I set the hook it pulls away. How long do I need to wait? Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 25, 2019 Super User Posted August 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, bayvalle said: I didn't try to set the hook I was just dragging it slowly. We don't have any SM bass in the lake I was fishing. But on another note I have had basss carry my jig under my kayak then when I set the hook it pulls away. How long do I need to wait? Bass don't have hands and LMB engulf everything when eating it unless they are spawning. How long, about a nano second with LMB. I am not a fan of Rage Tails, not because they may be fragile but the fast moving claws don't get as many quality strike as GYCB double tail grubs or Berkley Chigger Craws where I fish. Chigger Craws are less durable the SK Rage Craws, Yamamoto double ail and Cowboy grubs are very durable. Tom Quote
bayvalle Posted August 25, 2019 Author Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, WRB said: Bass don't have hands and LMB engulf everything when eating it unless they are spawning. How long, about a nano second with LMB. I am not a fan of Rage Tails, not because they may be fragile but the fast moving claws don't get as many quality strike as GYCB double tail grubs or Berkley Chigger Craws where I fish. Chigger Craws are less durable the SK Rage Craws, Yamamoto double ail and Cowboy grubs are very durable. Tom Generally I believe the LMB in SE Ohio are much smaller than So Cal so it is possble that they are biting off the tails. If we pull a 4 lb'er we've had a very good day around here. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 25, 2019 Super User Posted August 25, 2019 14" or 1 1/2 lb LMB can completely engulf a standrad size bass jig and trailer. If your bass average small size down size your jig and use 2 1/2" trailers. Try Skinner Bear pro jigs with Iovino 2" or 2 1/2" jig trailers, small jigs catch big bass. I agree with you that SK Rage claws flap so fast attracting smaller bass and bluegill strikes, that is why I don't use them. The majority of bass in any lake are under 12", very few adults over 24" and the big bass are all female, even in California. Tom Quote
moguy1973 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:25 PM, WRB said: Bass can't rip off the soft plastic craw claws unless you hook set too quickly. Smallmouth and Spotted bass tend to strike the claws, LMB engulf the entire craw. If you hook set when the bass has hold of the claws they get ripped off. Change your timing not the trialer. Tom While this may be partially true, in my experience using Rage Craws most of the time I've lost claws is when a smallmouth bass surfaces and shakes its head. Then I watch one or both claws go flying into the water and I'm left with a craw body shaped ned worm. Quote
FishinBuck07 Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 2:02 PM, bayvalle said: Generally I believe the LMB in SE Ohio are much smaller than So Cal so it is possble that they are biting off the tails. If we pull a 4 lb'er we've had a very good day around here. If the claws are being pulled off all the time I would say it may be big bluegill. I have had an issue like that fishing AEP ponds in Southeast Ohio 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 10, 2019 Super User Posted September 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, moguy1973 said: While this may be partially true, in my experience using Rage Craws most of the time I've lost claws is when a smallmouth bass surfaces and shakes its head. Then I watch one or both claws go flying into the water and I'm left with a craw body shaped ned worm. When you hook a bass and it's fighting most soft plastics can get damaged but that isn't the bass ripping off the claws striking it. The more durable a soft plastics is it's usually less life like and doesn't entice a bass to strike. The exception might be ZMan, haven't used it. Choices, duable trailers or catch bass. I prefer pork rind it does both, nearly indestructible and soft with life like movements. I am not a fan of Rage Craws, too much moment attracting small bass, prefer GYCB Cowboy DT Hula grubs and the fragile Berkley Chigger Craws that get destroyed with every bass hooked. Peace, Tom Quote
PourMyOwn Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 I use Yamamoto Flappin Hawgs or Hula grubs. Otherwise I use homemade trailers from a mold very similar to the Flappin Hawg. I like bulky and compact trailers. Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted September 10, 2019 Super User Posted September 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, WRB said: The more durable a soft plastics is it's usually less life like and doesn't entice a bass to strike. The exception might be ZMan, haven't used it. I can vouch for the Z-Man TRD Crawz. In clear water I have seen Sunfish grab them by the claws, tug and run with them. I have not lost a claw to one yet. Quote
JoePhish Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 412 Bait Co. 3.75" Small Jaw Craw. Quote
Tony johnson Posted September 12, 2019 Posted September 12, 2019 I mainly throw zoom zcraw on my jigs... and I just remove some of the body to shorten it Quote
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