newyorktoiowa57 Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 This is something I am going to mull over for a while, as I am still building my frog setup, but how do these 2 sticks compare in terms of balance, sensitivity, and action? I am looking to do away with spinning gear and throw shakey heads, ned rigs, tubes, open water senkos, and tiny jigs on the rod. I have read that a lof of guys love the 852 for its versatility, but I am concerned about the balance. I have read tackletour reviews stating that the balancing torque on the 842MBR and the 852JWR is the same, but that NRX review was in 2012, and I don’t know if the rod is still the same. If I remember correctly, the newer iterations of the NRX are actually more tip heavy, according to something I read either in here or on tackletour forums. Quote
Super User J._Bricker Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 @newyorktoiowa57, I have both a 842 and a 853 in the GLX model, both in my opinion are light and sensitive. I like to use the 842 for throwing 5”-7” senkos and I can pitch or sling a stick bait pretty much anywhere I want. I use the 853 as I believe it has a little more power during the hook set when throwing T-rigged baits and small jigs and horsing fish out of cover. Sorry i can’t comment on the NRX, at the time I bought my rods the GLX was pretty much it. I don’t think you will be disappointed in either rod with what you’re intending to use it for, but you might want to consider the 842 first. Good luck and good fishing Quote
Super User NHBull Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 I have or fished them all and like you tried to get away from spinning gear and it was not possible. I believe the GLX M, MBR will through lighter baits the best, but not as good as a good spinning set-up. Quote
newyorktoiowa57 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, NHBull said: I have or fished them all and like you tried to get away from spinning gear and it was not possible. I believe the GLX M, MBR will through lighter baits the best, but not as good as a good spinning set-up. What did you need the spinning reel for? Quote
Super User NHBull Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 1/4 poppers, 1/4 jigs, weightless 4" wacky, small jerks, hair jigs, ect.. Quote
newyorktoiowa57 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, NHBull said: 1/4 poppers, 1/4 jigs, weightless 4" wacky, small jerks, hair jigs, ect.. Maybe I should just get a spinning rod then. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, newyorktoiowa57 said: Maybe I should just get a spinning rod then. ? Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 Back in 2012 Gary Loomis owned his company and the NRX was new with 2 versions the green and blue series. GLX was the original GLX series heavier wall blanks completely a different rod then today's. 2019 GLX 852 JWR and NRX 852 JWR are very similar in power, action and construction. GLX 842 MBR has different lure and line rating; 852 is 1/8- 3/8 oz vs 842 is 1/4-5/8 oz. The big difference is price. Tom Quote
newyorktoiowa57 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, NHBull said: ? A 7 medium expride could do all those things, as could a destroyer shakey head. Do you have any recommendations? Quote
Super User NHBull Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, newyorktoiowa57 said: A 7 medium expride could do all those things, as could a destroyer shakey head. Do you have any recommendations? I like the MB Addermine and GLX MBR. Can't speak to to many others. If you don't want to spend that much, the e6x's can get the job done too Quote
newyorktoiowa57 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, NHBull said: I like the MB Addermine and GLX MBR. Can't speak to to many others. If you don't want to spend that much, the e6x's can get the job done too Are there GLX MBR spinning rods? Personally I don’t like the feel of the e6x for the price, but I have never actually used one. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 I believe the GLX spinning rod is a jig rod or G-Loomis GLX Popping PR844S Spinning Rod Quote
waymont Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 12:02 PM, newyorktoiowa57 said: Are there GLX MBR spinning rods? Personally I don’t like the feel of the e6x for the price, but I have never actually used one. The G Loomis taper you would want is the Spin Jig Rods. Loomis has stopped making them as of now in the GLX and NRX. The SJR are great and have a slightly slower tip than the ExFast JWR taper. The new E6X spinning rods fish quite well and they are available in the SJR taper, just not as super light as the GLX and NRX. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted August 10, 2019 Super User Posted August 10, 2019 The old SJRs still show up on ebay from time to time. If you want a lower cost rod to see if you are into finesse casting then take a look at the MB XXX Black Themis. In power and taper it feels more or less exactly like most ML/XF spinning rods I have used. It’s lower range is closer to 3/16 then 1/8, but it has more backbone then any casting rod I have used that will throw an actual 1/8oz lure well. Quote
rangerjockey Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 8 hours ago, WRB said: Back in 2012 Gary Loomis owned his company and the NRX was new with 2 versions the green and blue series. GLX was the original GLX series heavier wall blanks completely a different rod then today's. 2019 GLX 852 JWR and NRX 852 JWR are very similar in power, action and construction. GLX 842 MBR has different lure and line rating; 852 is 1/8- 3/8 oz vs 842 is 1/4-5/8 oz. The big difference is price. Tom Gary Loomis sold to Shimano around 1997. He stayed on as a consultant for 10 years or so but he gone before 2012. I believe Steve Rajef was behind the NRX. 1 Quote
Yumeya Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 I have both of those rods. I use the GLX 842 more for jerkbaits, topwater and small lipless cranks. The NRX 852 I use for for small jigs, keitech swing impact fat, I use it most as my Tube rod for smallies. The GLX will cast lighter baits as I feel the tip is softer. When holding them both its hard to feel any difference between weight and balance, but IMO the GLX feels better in hand because of its reel seat, its just plain comfortable. Both will do anything I listed. 2 Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted August 10, 2019 Super User Posted August 10, 2019 Also have them both and they're hands down two of my favorite rods to fish with. The NRX with an Aldebaran MGL is a dream combo (IMO) and I've comfortably thrown light shakeyheads, Neds, small tubes, darterheads, drop shot, etc. For an XF it's surprisingly versatile, and Matt Allen reports using it for techniques he never thought it would handle. The GLX 842 (w/Curado 70) always has a 3/16 underspin with a 2.8 Keitech on it since that's been my most consistent bait the past couple years. Before I picked up the 852 I was using the 842 for all of those same techniques with the Aldebaran, and it handled them all well... not going to lose with either option. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 10, 2019 Super User Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, rangerjockey said: Gary Loomis sold to Shimano around 1997. He stayed on as a consultant for 10 years or so but he gone before 2012. I believe Steve Rajef was behind the NRX. I was thinking the time frame was around 2005 but you are probably correct. Thr NRX rod power/action changed how we define bass rods. My opinion is use spinning outfit for what they do best and that is light line fineese presentations. I do understand spending $500+ on a NRX 2 power baitcasting rod when several $150 spinning rods out perform them. Tom Quote
Yumeya Posted August 10, 2019 Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, WRB said: I was thinking the time frame was around 2005 but you are probably correct. Thr NRX rod power/action changed how we define bass rods. My opinion is use spinning outfit for what they do best and that is light line fineese presentations. I do understand spending $500+ on a NRX 2 power baitcasting rod when several $150 spinning rods out perform them. Tom I disagree that a $150 spinning rod will out preform a NRX 2 power. 1 Quote
newyorktoiowa57 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Posted August 10, 2019 I forgot the mention the GLX 852C JWR in the original post. Quote
newyorktoiowa57 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Posted August 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Yumeya said: I disagree that a $150 spinning rod will out preform a NRX 2 power. I also find that hard to believe. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted August 10, 2019 Super User Posted August 10, 2019 Favorite production rod is a GLX MBR 842C matched with a Core 50 Mg7 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 10, 2019 Super User Posted August 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Yumeya said: I disagree that a $150 spinning rod will out preform a NRX 2 power. My late fishing partner fished nothing but NRX rods he owned 15 and never out fished me and I don't own 1. Good rods but for finesse light tackle fishing it's very difficult to out fish spinning tackle and 1 use Don Iovino Major Craft rods under $150 for most of my finesse presentations including his Splash-It baitcast rod. If you believe NRX rods catch more bass or you just like top end tackle buy them. Tom 1 Quote
Yumeya Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 3 hours ago, WRB said: My late fishing partner fished nothing but NRX rods he owned 15 and never out fished me and I don't own 1. Good rods but for finesse light tackle fishing it's very difficult to out fish spinning tackle and 1 use Don Iovino Major Craft rods under $150 for most of my finesse presentations including his Splash-It baitcast rod. If you believe NRX rods catch more bass or you just like top end tackle buy them. Tom I don't think NRX rods catch more bass, I do believe high end rods are more sensitive and will help with catching more bass though. I use lots of different brands of rods and IMO have never fished anything that is a more sensitive rod then a NRX, it is what all others are compared to. I agree with using spinning rods for light tackle, I do it, but I also use high end spinning rods and love it. 1 Quote
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