billmac Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 Rod shopping drives me crazy. It's bad enough trying to find the right combination of price, length, power, and action, but just when I think I've got it, I see the stupid things are in two pieces. What is up with 2 piece rods? Are they really that popular? I hate them, but perhaps I just don't know how wonderful they are. 1 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted August 8, 2019 Global Moderator Posted August 8, 2019 A little super glue and you’ve got a solid one piece rod. 3 5 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted August 8, 2019 Super User Posted August 8, 2019 I don't notice any real difference between 2-piece and 1-piece rods. Modern ones become a single unit when joined unlike years ago when they used metal ferrules at the joining. Being on a budget, if it's a choice between them, I'll get the less expensive version even if it is a 2-piece. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted August 8, 2019 Super User Posted August 8, 2019 2 piece rods are definitely a thing, especially for those who are limited on transportation (i.e., no truck or SUV) and have to shorten a 6'6" or plus rod to fit. I personally prefer 1 piece, so I get where your frustration is at.... 1 Quote
Way north bass guy Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 Of all the many rods I own, probably only about three or four are two piece rods ( not including my trolling/downrigging rods), and they get just as much use as my one piece rods do. A little bit of string wax from my crossbow on the male end of the ferrule, and they essentially become a one piece rod that I don’t even notice the joint on them any more. And if someone try's to tell they’re junk and have no sensitivity, they don’t know what they’re talking about. I have several, mid range priced two piece rods that I can feel every little tap and spinnerbait blade vibration on just fine. 3 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted August 8, 2019 Super User Posted August 8, 2019 All .... and I mean all .... of my rods, spinning and casting, are 2-piece. I have no boat, I transport by car, and I keep my rods not used at the moment out of sight, for anti-theft purposes. I wish more rods were made 2-piece. jj 2 Quote
Mikeltee Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 Two piece are excellent for throwing in the trunk and having a rod on deck at all times for those long lunch breaks. When I go fishing in my sedan I am reduced to bringing 2 kids and I have to worry about the one in the middle breaking my rods or getting stuck by the attached lures. Quote
The Bassman Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 I have a JDM Zodias 2 piece with spigot ferrule that feels like a one piece to me. I keep it together all the time so I don't have to line up the guides. A lot of JDM stuff is two piece. Quote
Super User Sam Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 Two piece rods are great when you have transportation limitations. I don't like them as the ones I have had in the past have come apart sooner or later while fishing. If you are going to glue the two sections together, use a piece of a wire rod that fits into the holes about two inches from the break and use some very strong epoxy to hold the rod inside both pieces as you put them together. Then use strong tape to wrap the two sections together about three inches in both directions, followed by using rod guide tape to tape over the area at least three inches from where the two pieces have been joined. Or have some fun and buy a new one-piece rod. The Bait Monkey will be forever grateful. Quote
Super User N Florida Mike Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 My favorite rod is a 2 piece that is stuck together. That particular rod is less sensitive, but it is a med. -heavy action. I don’t have any problem detecting a strike though, and it’s got the backbone to pull a fish out of the weeds. I think one piece rods are somewhat more sensitive but for the kind of fishing I do , it doesn’t matter at all. I agree that buying rods is very hard for me. Esp. If it’s not a matching combo. I probably have more one piece rods, but that’s for no particular reason. Quote
billmac Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 I agree that 2 piece rods can have some utility, especially for tight storage. They are the logical choice for backpackers. But I strongly suspect they are ubiquitous in the sporting goods stores because they are easier to ship. In fact a guy at Dick's all but confirmed that to me yesterday. Quote
Super User Spankey Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 My bass fishing rods are all one piece. 5’9” to 7’3”. I’m fine with it and do it by choice. Most likely will always keep it that way, but my surf fishing rods are two piece and a couple trout rods (spinning & fly) are two piece. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Sam said: If you are going to glue the two sections together, use a piece of a wire rod that fits into the holes about two inches from the break and use some very strong epoxy to hold the rod inside both pieces as you put them together. Then use strong tape to wrap the two sections together about three inches in both directions, followed by using rod guide tape to tape over the area at least three inches from where the two pieces have been joined. If you want a 2 piece to become a 1 piece, dip the male end in some simple syrup or Southern style iced tea, and push together as far as it will go, make sure the guides are aligned. If you just want your 2 piece not to come apart while fishing, rub a crayon or birthday candle on the male end, and again push in as far as it will go. It will hold tight, and will come apart without much drama. 1 1 Quote
boostr Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 I have a few 2 piece rods, but those are for air travel. I take them apart and stick them in a Plano Airliner travel tube. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 Times change - back when I was a meat fishing bush hippie two piece rods were the norm. That "s all I had - they were just easier to handle and transport. Quote
Hulkster Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 I for one don't understand the real need for 2 piece rods, I drive a toyota corolla, not a very big car and my 7'6 one piece rods fit fine. one piece rods are lighter, by definition more sensitive (although they are better today than yesteryear) and cheaper in some cases. 1 piece all the way. I do however, have a few 3 piece rods that i can fit into a suitcase inside a rod tube for air travel etc. Quote
greentrout Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 18 hours ago, billmac said: Rod shopping drives me crazy. It's bad enough trying to find the right combination of price, length, power, and action, but just when I think I've got it, I see the stupid things are in two pieces. What is up with 2 piece rods? Are they really that popular? I hate them, but perhaps I just don't know how wonderful they are. been fishing 2pc. rods exclusively for the past 7 yrs. with kastking, entsport, cabela's and bass pro shops...suits my lifestyle ... they are stout and sensitive... do a lot of worm fishing ... don't believe i'm missing a beat ... been fishing for the past 50 yrs... good fishing ... Quote
Super User MickD Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 If you can find the specs you want in a two piece, buy it. As stated above, the modern integral ferrules make no perceptible difference in anything. I would not use super glue to make it a one piece; I would use a good rod-building two part epoxy. Of course I would not want to use the utility of the two piece, so wouldn't make it into a one piece. In rodbuilding blanks the offerings by the manufacturers in two piece blanks are growing as more and more appreciate just how good they are. And three piece travel spin/cast, and 4 piece fly blanks. I would not even consider a two piece fly rod any more, the threes travel so well and perform perfectly. Quote
SeaCrow Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 20 hours ago, 12poundbass said: A little super glue and you’ve got a solid one piece rod. That's what I do, ? Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 What exactly is the problem so many people have with modern 2-piece rods? I don't get it. The majority of my rods are 1-piece, but I have a few 2-pieces. They do not come apart on me unless I want them to, and they are not noticeably heavier or less-sensitive than my 1-pieces. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 You will find only fresh water bass anglers prefer 1 piece rods and that may be because of the use of bottom contact lures like jigs and plastic worms. Bass anglers are highly influenced by competitive professional tournament anglers. The simple fact is most anglers are not bass anglers. Trout, catfish and other species anglers out number bass anglers and they prefer the convince of rods that can be taken apart to easily transport them. The fact is moderate action rods do not lose any performance being multiple sections as long as the ferrule design or telescoping fit doesn't weaken the rod. Fly fishermen and surf fishermen have been using long high quality multiple piece rods for decades. Anyone who travels to fish appreciates multiple piece rods for ease of transport. I, like nearly every bass angler, use 1 piece rods whenever possible but I own travel rods, fly rods, surf rods that are multiple piece. My first Fenwick pack fly rod is 4 pieces and over 50 years old now and no metal ferrules, the state of the art isn't new. Tom 1 Quote
fin Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 It probably varies by manufacturer, maybe even by model, but in my low-end rods, I prefer the one-piece. I’ve got a two-piece 7’ Cherrywood spinning that doesn’t seem to have the same power as my one-piece 7’ Cherrywood casting, or 6’ Cherrywood spinning, even though they are all rated the same. I’ve never had the chance to hold a one-piece 7’ Cherrywood spinning to feel the difference, but I feel pretty sure it would be a little more stout. I got it cheap, I think like 40% off at Dick’s and there was no one-piece option from them at the time. As far as gluing, I’ve never done it, but considered it because I find myself always looking to see if the guides are not aligned perfectly. If I did glue it, I would use something like the stuff in rod tip repair kits, so if I made a mistake or changed my mind later, I could take it back apart. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted August 9, 2019 Super User Posted August 9, 2019 All of my casting rods are one piece, and all of my spinning rods are two piece. Besides the 7'0" ML rod, I don't think I have ever had them apart. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted August 10, 2019 Super User Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/8/2019 at 3:54 PM, billmac said: Rod shopping drives me crazy. It's bad enough trying to find the right combination of price, length, power, and action, but just when I think I've got it, I see the stupid things are in two pieces. What is up with 2 piece rods? Are they really that popular? I hate them, but perhaps I just don't know how wonderful they are. Seriously? ? If that’s your biggest concern, you’re better off than most. I get the irony though and I’m kinda chuckling. 2-piece is a convenience thing. My beautiful 1-piece bass collect dust while the 2-piece rods get all the action. They’re always in the trunk and ready to go. These newer two piece aren’t those of yesteryear. I’d be surprised if you noticed the difference because they’re that good, assuming it’s a two piece that is well built with quality components. Fly rods come in even more pieces yet they’re very sensitive so go figure. You can always return it. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted August 10, 2019 Super User Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 8:00 AM, BassWhole! said: If you want a 2 piece to become a 1 piece, dip the male end in some simple syrup or Southern style iced tea, and push together as far as it will go, make sure the guides are aligned. If you just want your 2 piece not to come apart while fishing, rub a crayon or birthday candle on the male end, and again push in as far as it will go. It will hold tight, and will come apart without much drama. . . . . and what does that say about the chemical makeup of simple syrup and southern style iced tea? ? 1 Quote
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