Bent guides

[OkieBoy17]

If micro guides are out of alignment just a little would that affect rod sensitivity or performance for fighting fish and or casting 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

No. It’s just cosmetically unappealing. Bending and twisting on them will do more harm than good. 

[Deleted account]

37 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Bending and twisting on them will do more harm than good. 

That's what she said...

[S Hovanec]

Bending them back isn't always a good idea.  I took this in for repair.  Bent stripper guide that was bent back in place many times, pulled out and glued back in.  The blank is crushed under the guide foot from all of the manipulation of the guide.

 

[Bluebasser86]

11 hours ago, S Hovanec said:

Bending them back isn't always a good idea.  I took this in for repair.  Bent stripper guide that was bent back in place many times, pulled out and glued back in.  The blank is crushed under the guide foot from all of the manipulation of the guide.

 

How did that not break on a hookset or while fighting a fish?? ?

[S Hovanec]

12 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

How did that not break on a hookset or while fighting a fish?? ?

Good question.  When you flex the blank, you can hear the fibers creaking and crackling at that spot.

[WRB]

Alignment is different from bent guides, which is it?

Tom

[BIGfryFish]

On 8/9/2019 at 11:32 PM, Bluebasser86 said:

How did that not break on a hookset or while fighting a fish?? ?

On 8/9/2019 at 11:46 PM, S Hovanec said:

Good question.  When you flex the blank, you can hear the fibers creaking and crackling at that spot.

 

IMHO it looks like more cosmetic damage, on the verge of getting worse.     Looks like you got it in time, hopefully it can be saved.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[S Hovanec]

23 hours ago, BIGfryFish said:

 

IMHO it looks like more cosmetic damage, on the verge of getting worse.     Looks like you got it in time, hopefully it can be saved.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Way beyond cosmetic.  Those parallel lines are cracks that allow that section to be pushed into the blank.  Customer told me to just rewrap the guide on.  When I did, the thread tension pushed the guide into the crack pulling it out of alignment.  It could not be adjusted because the foot was pressed into the blank.

[Deleted account]

On 8/11/2019 at 6:59 AM, BIGfryFish said:

 

IMHO it looks like more cosmetic damage,

You sound like an insurance adjuster. If that's cosmetic damage, I'll only fish with  a Quantum reel on a Kistler with fluoro and a WP or an A-rig from now on, (or get some root canal without anasthesia)...

[MickD]

On my first rod building project after being off for about 40 years to raise my kids, I built a ST Croix SC V for my son and when I got done the first guide was off significantly in alignment.  Looked awful.  The guide was a size 30 Fuji titanium.  Instead of cutting it off I tried to align it by bending the guide.  Those Fuji titaniums really don't like to be bent.  Bottom line is that it was in alignment but the guide looked like heck, all bent up.  My son fished it for a few year or two, then I decided to try a better fix on it.   When I took the guide off the blank looked just like the one above, crushed badly.  I took a strip of fiberglass cloth and with structural epoxy, made a short reinforcement over the crushed area.  The rod has lasted about 10 years since then with no sign of trouble.  The wrap on that guide does look a little fat if you really look critically at it, but for the most part it is not detectable.  I think the secret of success for the fix is that the longitudinal fibers were not broken, just "locally separated."  Stabilizing them appears to be a good fix.  Better than scrapping a  St Croix SCV.

 

Lessons:  Don't bend guides, especially if they are on the blank.  

               If you screw it up like above or like I did, there is a good chance it can be salvaged as I described.

[S Hovanec]

4 minutes ago, MickD said:

Lessons:  Don't bend guides, especially if they are on the blank.  

               If you screw it up like above or like I did, there is a good chance it can be salvaged as I described.

 

If this was mine, or a SCV, I'd be fixing it as mentioned, but it's one of those fantastic Veritas that people love for some reason.  I've replaced so many guides on those over the years it probably paid for my lathe!