Super User deaknh03 Posted August 19, 2019 Super User Posted August 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Russ E said: This whole thread was based on CBD not marijuana or THC. CBD oil is not considered a psycho active drug. It does not give the high associated with THC. People that want Marijuana just for the high, have no use for CBD. To make a claim that people lie about its advantages, to get drugs, is just ridiculous. This whole conversation reminds me of this old propoganda clip. Exactly. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted August 22, 2019 Super User Posted August 22, 2019 Yikes, this thread took a weird, ridiculous turn ?♂️ Quote
CrankFate Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 Marijuana and it’s derivatives are not good for people. But I am not going to say it should all be banned and no one should have access. Access should be for what it is. Not just so people could claim it’s “medicine.” Let the drug and derivatives be legal and people can do whatever they want with it. I don’t see any point in criminalization. Maybe bans on public use, just like the no drinking alcohol in public rules. And bans on using it and driving, like with alcohol. I’m still not going anywhere near the stuff myself. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted September 10, 2019 Super User Posted September 10, 2019 I took it for a month after my stroke helped out a lot but it does interfare with blood thinners so i stopped taken it ..like anything though always ask your doctor about interactions with meds you take ...suposedly your not auppose to take it long term...THC is ok long term so who knows its best to read as much as possible from all diff people and diff countries to get a good direct hit on the pros and cons of CBD oil or anything for that matter. Big pharma dont like natural stuff so it wont be FDA approved its all about money... Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted September 14, 2019 Super User Posted September 14, 2019 I’ve been thinking about possibly trying just wanted to research it before talking to my doctor about it I always get side tracked with fishing and look it still led me to it lol. As as many of you know that have been on this forum for some time know I was in a bad accident last fall and should of been killed. I’m still suffering with some pain from it but don’t take anything for it even in the hospital once I was out of coma I didn’t take anything thought the option was there. My hips I guess it would be are in a lot of pain at times keeping me up just about in tears. Getting hit by a F150 while making me F150 proof I joke about I also feel 30 years older limping everywhere especially with the weather changes. The little shops that specialize in it I guess are on like every corner in the city. I might try it idk yet gotta do some more research on it. Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted September 14, 2019 Super User Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, clayton86 said: I’ve been thinking about possibly trying just wanted to research it before talking to my doctor about it I always get side tracked with fishing and look it still led me to it lol. As as many of you know that have been on this forum for some time know I was in a bad accident last fall and should of been killed. I’m still suffering with some pain from it but don’t take anything for it even in the hospital once I was out of coma I didn’t take anything thought the option was there. My hips I guess it would be are in a lot of pain at times keeping me up just about in tears. Getting hit by a F150 while making me F150 proof I joke about I also feel 30 years older limping everywhere especially with the weather changes. The little shops that specialize in it I guess are on like every corner in the city. I might try it idk yet gotta do some more research on it. All the best of luck to you.....not a lot of difference in going to Doc and them saying...here try this and call me in a couple days!! Quote
Super User clayton86 Posted September 14, 2019 Super User Posted September 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Oregon Native said: All the best of luck to you.....not a lot of difference in going to Doc and them saying...here try this and call me in a couple days!! Thanks knowing me and the the way I am though I won’t try it or go on other meds even if they say to I’ve just had a lot of people tell me to try it and see. A lot of people saying “wow they never gave you Percocet or hydros or anything for pain you got hit by a truck!” In my head I’m thinking no you just want them if they did anyways lol. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted September 18, 2019 Super User Posted September 18, 2019 I find it kinda mind boggling that some ppl endorse SOME FDA approved drug that in the past has been taken off the market.its about money big PHARMA owns the FDA .we aint talking millions we are talkin trillions of dollars.read the fine print of FDA approved drugs for simple things ...can cause psychosis,seizure,ganggreen,stroke,dementia etc ....all easing the pain of a migraine LOL ill take my chances with THC if i gotta choose . 4 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted September 18, 2019 Author Super User Posted September 18, 2019 I have a great talk with a leading orthopedic surgeon and while he is not pushing it, he said said he has seen benefits and actually recommends a certain company Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted September 19, 2019 Super User Posted September 19, 2019 Smiling.......just smiling. Interesting posts. 1 Quote
CrankFate Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 10:10 AM, NHBull said: I have a great talk with a leading orthopedic surgeon and while he is not pushing it, he said said he has seen benefits and actually recommends a certain company I recently spoke to a few doctors about this for someone badly injured that truly needs pain management. They all basically said they don’t want to have anything to do with prescribing anything to anyone for pain because of all the DEA reporting. Because of that, they all want to get medical marijuana to prescribe instead. However, not a single one of them even mentioned CBD. 1 Quote
Super User NHBull Posted September 20, 2019 Author Super User Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, CrankFate said: I recently spoke to a few doctors about this for someone badly injured that truly needs pain management. They all basically said they don’t want to have anything to do with prescribing anything to anyone for pain because of all the DEA reporting. Because of that, they all want to get medical marijuana to prescribe instead. However, not a single one of them even mentioned CBD. My ortho was referring to releaving inflation, not pain Quote
CrankFate Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/20/2019 at 4:56 AM, NHBull said: My ortho was referring to releaving inflation, not pain Maybe? I don’t know. But relieve pain? LoL, that could only come from studies made by companies trying to sell it without true double blind studies or FDA approval. Because it’s never been proven to do anything for pain. That’s why no ones touting any double blind studies. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted October 2, 2019 Super User Posted October 2, 2019 18 hours ago, CrankFate said: Maybe? I don’t know. But relieve pain? LoL, that could only come from studies made by companies trying to sell it without true double blind studies or FDA approval. Because it’s never been proven to do anything for pain. That’s why no ones touting any double blind studies. pain is most often caused by inflammation...see what i did there. 1 1 Quote
CrankFate Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 5:53 PM, deaknh03 said: pain is most often caused by inflammation...see what i did there. It’s possible. I always find it hard to talk about getting pain, because I don’t usually have pain. It might be because I don’t get inflammation. When something happens that should cause swelling and inflammation, I don’t get swelling and inflammation. Which is why I’m not big on people deciding what’s best for others. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted October 5, 2019 Super User Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 10:26 PM, CrankFate said: It’s possible. I always find it hard to talk about getting pain, because I don’t usually have pain. It might be because I don’t get inflammation. When something happens that should cause swelling and inflammation, I don’t get swelling and inflammation. Which is why I’m not big on people deciding what’s best for others. I dont think anyone here is deciding what's best for anyone, we leave that to the government, they seem to like to do that. 2 2 Quote
newriverfisherman1953 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 My thoughts are it doesn’t work and there are too many people trying to make money off of people hurting. 1 Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted October 6, 2019 Super User Posted October 6, 2019 Is there "anything" that people aren't trying to make a dime off!!!!! Seriously.... Quote
DanielG Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Oregon Native said: Is there "anything" that people aren't trying to make a dime off!!!!! Seriously.... Dimes... unless you're a collector. ? Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted October 6, 2019 Super User Posted October 6, 2019 18 hours ago, newriverfisherman1953 said: My thoughts are it doesn’t work and there are too many people trying to make money off of people hurting. You've tried it? Quote
newriverfisherman1953 Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Yes I have tried it. No results. And I’ve talked to others with the same results. 1 Quote
CrankFate Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 6:19 PM, deaknh03 said: I dont think anyone here is deciding what's best for anyone, we leave that to the government, they seem to like to do that. I would usually have a witty response here, but I’m sure it’ll violate the ToS for the site. But, I hear ya..... 1 hour ago, newriverfisherman1953 said: Yes I have tried it. No results. And I’ve talked to others with the same results. Its snake oil, IMO. The placebo effect is so powerful that in some studies it makes guys in baldness studies grow hair!!! If you add in the mild psychoactive effects, a little drowsiness and things like that, the placebo effect gets stronger. https://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/13/science/placebos-prove-so-powerful-even-experts-are-surprised-new-studies-explore-brain.html I am against marijuana products as “medicine” and because it is bad for people. I wouldn’t think of touching it. But I am not against legalization. As a drug for people to do what they want with. As long as they ban it in public and ticket anyone who uses it openly in public. The smell is sickening. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted October 12, 2019 Super User Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 8:12 PM, CrankFate said: I would usually have a witty response here, but I’m sure it’ll violate the ToS for the site. But, I hear ya..... Its snake oil, IMO. The placebo effect is so powerful that in some studies it makes guys in baldness studies grow hair!!! If you add in the mild psychoactive effects, a little drowsiness and things like that, the placebo effect gets stronger. https://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/13/science/placebos-prove-so-powerful-even-experts-are-surprised-new-studies-explore-brain.html I am against marijuana products as “medicine” and because it is bad for people. I wouldn’t think of touching it. But I am not against legalization. As a drug for people to do what they want with. As long as they ban it in public and ticket anyone who uses it openly in public. The smell is sickening. Dude we get it. You don't like cbd but by your own admission don't need it, have never tried it and have no desire to try it. You're throwing your opinion out there with nothing to back it up other than "marijuana is bad mmmkay." A dozen people in this thread who have used it say it helps them. Your Reefer Madness claims based on your inexperienced, biased opinion and nothing more aren't helping anyone. 3 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted October 12, 2019 Super User Posted October 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jrob78 said: Your Reefer Madness claims based on your inexperienced, biased opinion and nothing more aren't helping anyone. Add to the fact that the 'high' from marijuana is from THC - which CBD oil contains almost none of. So the 'getting CBD oil to get high off of' claim falls by the wayside. 3 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted October 13, 2019 Super User Posted October 13, 2019 I just watched a special on CNN about the CBD craze. It contradicted half of what’s in this thread. You would think an organization like CNN would check bassresource.com to get their facts straight before airing a special like that. 3 Quote
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