E-DOG Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 So I want to get another rod and reel combo to add to my arseal but I'm not sure what the best option would be to cover the most techniques. right now I have a finesse spinning combo and an all around casting combo that can cover a lot of baits except for the heavy cover stuff. also I mostly fish the bank and I live in California if that helps. so with that said what should be the next rod I should get? Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 25, 2019 Super User Posted July 25, 2019 Either the St. Croix Mojo Bass 7' H/F Dock Sniper, or the 7'-04" Slop-n-frog, also H/F. Just my opinion. jj Quote
jakkbauer Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 either a barbie or ninja turtles combo imo 2 Quote
E-DOG Posted July 26, 2019 Author Posted July 26, 2019 unfortunately those rods are just a little over budget for me.. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted July 26, 2019 Super User Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: Either the St. Croix Mojo Bass 7' H/F Dock Sniper, or the 7'-04" Slop-n-frog, also H/F. Just my opinion. jj I second the recommendation of a H/F rod to fish the 'slop'. Depending on your budget there's a lot of decent rods and reels out there. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 26, 2019 Super User Posted July 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, E-DOG said: unfortunately those rods are just a little over budget for me.. I assume you were talking about these rods " either a barbie or ninja turtles combo imo " No idea what kind of water/cover you fish. In my area the HF would be a good 'next' choice. But so would a MF. Both baitcast. I'm guessing your budget is low. The Daiwa Aird X or Berkley Lightning/Lightning Shock are pretty good rods for the money. What is your budget? Do you want another spinning or baitcast combo? Majority here will be suggesting baitcast since you have a finesse spinning. Quote
Mikeltee Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 Heavy long rod for frogs and pitching in slop or a MH graphite cranking rod for shallow divers, traps, jerkbaits, etc(all treble hooks). Then all you will need is a super sensitive jig rod. I'd save some cash for that and spend $300 for the rod. Quote
E-DOG Posted July 26, 2019 Author Posted July 26, 2019 my budget is around 300 dollars for both rod and reel, probably going with a 7foot heavy fast for frogging, and heavy cover fishing in general, probably wouldn't be Flipping often because I primarily fish from the bank, but a rod that I could frog with and also fish stuff in heavier cover would be ideal, I'm thinking of going with the Dobyns fury 735 because I have 2 furys already and love them. it's a mag heavy rod but the furys typically are a little bit lighter power than advertised.. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted July 26, 2019 Super User Posted July 26, 2019 What are your future plans? Stay the same - bank fishing? Get into tournaments as a co-angler? Gonna be buying a boat any time soon? Tournament fishing in your plans? You live in No.Cal - are big swim baits in your plans? Makes a difference. I always wince when I hear "all around bait casting combo. Brings to mind the concept of "jack of all trades - master of none." Begs the question, but what is currently your favorite technique? Me, if I had to have another combo, I'd but the best of what I could find & afford at that technique. Might be cranking - might be jigging - might be throwing spinnerbaits - I don't know. Then once you get some more disposable income - choose another technique and get the best that you can find & afford at that one. And so on and so on ... Quote
Mikeltee Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 Yea you dont need sensitivity with a frog rod. A broomstick is fine as long as it has a fast enough tip to work the frog. It will also be great for whopper ploppers. Just dont set the hook when you see the blowup or you will rip it right out of their mouth. I'd consider the fury 734 for a lighter tip. I assure you it is enough of a broomstick to drag a 10 pounder out of the slop. The tip is ok, but the 735 will be worse. Quote
E-DOG Posted July 30, 2019 Author Posted July 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Mikeltee said: Yea you dont need sensitivity with a frog rod. A broomstick is fine as long as it has a fast enough tip to work the frog. It will also be great for whopper ploppers. Just dont set the hook when you see the blowup or you will rip it right out of their mouth. I'd consider the fury 734 for a lighter tip. I assure you it is enough of a broomstick to drag a 10 pounder out of the slop. The tip is ok, but the 735 will be worse. I think I'm gonna go with the 704, I have a 703 which isnt a true med hvy more like a med so I'm gonna go with the 704 to step up a power. Also I'm stepping up in the line to the Sierra series becuz I mainly want to use it for t-rigs and jigs and want more sensitivity.. Quote
Super User GreenPig Posted July 30, 2019 Super User Posted July 30, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 9:10 PM, jakkbauer said: either a barbie or ninja turtles combo imo I prefer the Spiderman combo for heavy cover fishing. I spooled mine with real Spider wire. 1 Quote
E-DOG Posted July 30, 2019 Author Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, GreenPig said: I prefer the Spiderman combo for heavy cover fishing. I spooled mine with real Spider wire. problem is I'm arachnophobic. 1 1 Quote
Mikeltee Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 11 hours ago, E-DOG said: I think I'm gonna go with the 704, I have a 703 which isnt a true med hvy more like a med so I'm gonna go with the 704 to step up a power. Also I'm stepping up in the line to the Sierra series becuz I mainly want to use it for t-rigs and jigs and want more sensitivity.. I have heard good things about the Sierra line and I would assume the Sierra Micro will offer more sensitivity that you require. I am not sure if a longer leader will be a hindrance or not. Slowly I am getting away from leaders and going straight braid for everything but cranking in which I use flouro. No matter what knot you tie it's going to mess up your cast and if you leave a 3' leader dangling upon casting what's the point? Quote
E-DOG Posted July 30, 2019 Author Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Mikeltee said: I have heard good things about the Sierra line and I would assume the Sierra Micro will offer more sensitivity that you require. I am not sure if a longer leader will be a hindrance or not. Slowly I am getting away from leaders and going straight braid for everything but cranking in which I use flouro. No matter what knot you tie it's going to mess up your cast and if you leave a 3' leader dangling upon casting what's the point? there is a micro series and a regular guide series I'm gonna get the regular one Quote
waymont Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/25/2019 at 5:28 PM, jimmyjoe said: St. Croix Mojo Bass 7' H/F Dock Sniper Hey. Do you own this rod? Thoughts on it? What do you throw on it? Thx Quote
Super User FishTank Posted July 12, 2020 Super User Posted July 12, 2020 The St. Croix Avid 7' MH Fast will do just about anything. With you budget you could get a Shimano SLX and be pretty close. This set up will cover topwater, jerkbaits, most t-rigged soft plastic, spinner baits and jigs. Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 12, 2020 Super User Posted July 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, waymont said: Hey. Do you own this rod? Thoughts on it? What do you throw on it? Thx I did own it. Great rod. Used it for 5/8 oz. spinnerbaits and 1 oz. spoons. Found out it was OK for frogs (not toads; I don't fish toads) and magnum flukes. But I have a bad shoulder, and the acceleration with the stiff tip gave me problems. (Yes .... I'm falling apart all over. ?) So I sold it and got the 7'-02" H/M Mojo Bass Glass rod. It has a lot more "give", and I can cast much better. Both are excellent rods. jj 1 Quote
waymont Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: I did own it. Great rod. Used it for 5/8 oz. spinnerbaits and 1 oz. spoons. Found out it was OK for frogs (not toads; I don't fish toads) and magnum flukes. But I have a bad shoulder, and the acceleration with the stiff tip gave me problems. (Yes .... I'm falling apart all over. ?) So I sold it and got the 7'-02" H/M Mojo Bass Glass rod. It has a lot more "give", and I can cast much better. Both are excellent rods. jj Thank you. What I’ve read says it has a kind of soft tip good to help make accurate casts. You disagree? Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 12, 2020 Super User Posted July 12, 2020 7 hours ago, waymont said: Thank you. What I’ve read says it has a kind of soft tip good to help make accurate casts. You disagree? I literally can't handle the Dock Sniper well enough to tell you that it is or is not accurate. The tip seemed in keeping with a Heavy power, and the knee of the action was in keeping with Fast action. More than that I can't tell you. Look at it this way: How apt are you to assess the intricacies of the thorax connections of a wasp ..... while it's in the process of stinging you? That's how I felt. The glass rod is entirely different. Part of the reason I like it is undoubtedly due to the fact that I'm used to fiberglass rods, and have been for many years. It wouldn't work as a dock sniper, though. Like I said, I'm falling apart all over. ? jj 1 Quote
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