How many beads on spinnerbaits?

[scaleface]

Is  there a rule of thumb on how many beads/spacers  to put on a spinnerbait ?  

[Munkin]

For what? Spacing I just like to make sure the front blade works in harmony with the rear one. There is no rule of thumb but I like to put a bead in from of the front clevis. This cuts down on grass/trash etc. fowling the front blade from spinning. It is a personal thing but it has worked for me for years. I would also like to add instead of a lot of beads I favor leader sleeves. 

 

Allen

[scaleface]

8 hours ago, Munkin said:

For what?

For separating the primary and secondary blades . How much space should be between them ? Longer blades should be spaced further than shorter blades I presume . Willows spaced further than Colorados...

[smalljaw67]

No rule of thumb, and distance can be short or long depending on what you want the bait to do. For me I use a small bead then the clevis then another bead and after that it could be a leader sleeve/spacer tube or a few more beads or just a larger bead. I make a 1/4oz spinnerbait with a short blade arm, it is a double willow configuration with both willows being a size #3.5.  The blade arm measured from the top of the "R" bend to the top of the swivel loop is 1.25" and the spacing on that bait is a 1/8" bead then the clevis and another 1/8" bead followed by a 3/16" bead then the swivel loop. The blades are separated but when spinning it produces a single large flash so I get the flash of a large blade without the added torque so my bait is more stable which allows me to move it faster without the bait rolling on its side.  You really have to experiment with spacing and blade sizes but in general the closer the blades are the more vibration you get but the more unstable it is. The further apart the blades are gives you increased stability but less vibration. I also believe you have to factor flash into the equation as well, 2 blades closer together creates a large flash where as keeping the blades further apart gives off two distinct flashes and sometimes one will do better than others. You can get really deep into the woods with this stuff so here is what I will tell you to do. Make 2 baits that are the same except for the blade spacing, make one with a short space between blades and the other make with the blades further apart and then fish them both and see what it looks like and how the baits react to speed and how the fish respond. Don't worry about getting the blades too close, the blade on the clevis doesn't really spin, it rotates around the wire and the end of the blade gets forced away from the wire so it is really hard to have one blade interfere with the other so try different spacing and see what works in what situation.

[scaleface]

Thanks smalljaw67  , I did not know how that worked .

[Deleted account]

For the most part, I like my blades closer together than how they come out of the pkg. A good rule of thumb is to have the blades not overlap when held vertical. I use 2 solid metal beads against the clevis, and then whatever else to get the spacing I want if needed. I don't like a bead above the clevis. 

[smalljaw67]

44 minutes ago, BassWhole! said:

For the most part, I like my blades closer together than how they come out of the pkg. A good rule of thumb is to have the blades not overlap when held vertical. I use 2 solid metal beads against the clevis, and then whatever else to get the spacing I want if needed. I don't like a bead above the clevis. 

You should have a bead above the clevis, the bead acts as a bearing and allows it to spin better. I know a lot of guys don't use a bead under the clevis but I do and it is simply because I've always done it and it looks better to me. 

[Deleted account]

6 minutes ago, smalljaw67 said:

You should have a bead above the clevis, the bead acts as a bearing and allows it to spin better. I know a lot of guys don't use a bead under the clevis but I do and it is simply because I've always done it and it looks better to me. 

In my experience, bead above the clevis (or on a buzz bait) just collects goop and locks things down at times. I've tried all combinations, and that's just what works best for me, and I'm OCD. Most spinnerbaits come with one, and I take them off.

[scaleface]

I  put a bead above the clevis to keep t from getting wedged in the  R-bend .

[smalljaw67]

7 hours ago, scaleface said:

I  put a bead above the clevis to keep t from getting wedged in the  R-bend .

To me that is below the clevis or underneath. I guess it would be better to say a bead on top is needed, a bead on the bottom isn't but I use one anyway. 

13 hours ago, BassWhole! said:

In my experience, bead above the clevis (or on a buzz bait) just collects goop and locks things down at times. I've tried all combinations, and that's just what works best for me, and I'm OCD. Most spinnerbaits come with one, and I take them off.

I'm thinking we aren't talking about the same bead. When I say "above" the clevis I mean on top toward the swivel, "below" the clevis is toward the "R" bend. 

[Munkin]

2 hours ago, smalljaw67 said:

I'm thinking we aren't talking about the same bead. When I say "above" the clevis I mean on top toward the swivel, "below" the clevis is toward the "R" bend. 

I am complete opposite thinking of that.

 

Allen

[fishballer06]

On 7/24/2019 at 4:03 PM, BassWhole! said:

A good rule of thumb is to have the blades not overlap when held vertical.

This. 

 

I generally put one bead in front of the clevis, and then usually 3-4 behind it (1/8" or 5/32"). This works well with any #3 or #3.5 size blade. 

[cyclops2]

I put a twist in the rear blade so it spins about the same speed and  opposite of the front 1.  I add 3 extra beads between the blades.

[WRB]

Take a look at Tackle Warehouse Spinnerbaits they have over a 100 photos of nearly every brand and variety of double blade spinner baits.

Tom 

[scaleface]

16 hours ago, cyclops2 said:

I put a twist in the rear blade so it spins about the same speed and  opposite of the front 1.  I add 3 extra beads between the blades.

How do you know it will spin opposite ?

15 hours ago, WRB said:

Take a look at Tackle Warehouse Spinnerbaits they have over a 100 photos of nearly every brand and variety of double blade spinner baits.

Tom 

I copied a bait that I liked and have success with   but did not know the reason behind the different  variations . Smalljaw67 explained it . 

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On 8/3/2019 at 9:08 AM, scaleface said:

How do you know it will spin opposite ?

You don't, but you do know which way that blade will spin, much like you know which way your boat will go when you turn the wheel. A very slight twist in each blade in opposite directions will make them spin in opposite directions. I like my blades spinning in the same direction though.

[Munkin]

On ‎8‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 8:14 PM, WRB said:

Take a look at Tackle Warehouse Spinnerbaits they have over a 100 photos of nearly every brand and variety of double blade spinner baits.

Tom 

A practical solution to the problem.

 

Allen