I cant believe what I just saw!

[Quarry Man]

On 7/18/2019 at 9:35 PM, TheRodFather said:

Yes, you guys are probably all correct.  It's been a rough week, I'm a Plumber, it's 104 with heat index to 115, and I did a water heater in an attic yesterday.  The heat is getting to my brain I think.  It IS a service at Publix, but it left me speechless to see an able bodied man allow somebody else (the fact that it was a young girl adds to my amazement) to walk the groceries out to the car, and then load them.  Call me old fashioned I guess.

 

No shame in that guys game.  It is really strange where I live, mostly white collar folks who know how to do nothing for themselves.  Guess I shouldn't complain, I will always have work, being a plumber.

 

That service is for the old and or infirm, or moms/dads with small rugrats in their arms, etc, etc. 

 

Wont happen again.......carry on.

this comes off as extremely sexist, who cares what other people do as long as they aren't hurting you or anyone else.

[DanielG]

I'm 65 but still do much of the stuff I was doing at 40. last summer I was loading a couple of sheets of plywood in the truck at HD. A 40ish year old guy comes up to me and says "want some help there young fella?".

 

Geesh... am I there already?

[NYWayfarer]

I got insulted for. Quick second today at Hannaford. The cashier asked my wife if she needed assistance with getting the groceries to her vehicle. I was standing there, all 6’1” 195 lbs of me. ??

[A-Jay]

8 minutes ago, NYWayfarer said:

I got insulted for. Quick second today at Hannaford. The cashier asked my wife if she needed assistance with getting the groceries to her vehicle. I was standing there, all 6’1” 195 lbs of me. ??

Interesting ~

Perhaps if you'd helped unload the cart at the check out, 

she'd have had different expectations.

So do you think she believed it was a willingness or an ability issue ? 

A-Jay

[NYWayfarer]

3 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Interesting ~

Perhaps if you'd helped unload the cart at the check out, 

she'd have had different expectations.

So do you think she believed it was a willingness or an ability issue ? 

A-Jay

I think it was an invisibility issue. It was like she didn’t even acknowledge my existence. 
 

Dang A-Jay it was like you were there. How did you know my wife won’t let me unload the eggs from the cart. I had the butterfingers ya know ?

[TheRodFather]

5 hours ago, Quarry Man said:

this comes off as extremely sexist, who cares what other people do as long as they aren't hurting you or anyone else.

Well, I would be just as amazed if it was a young man that did the carrying.  The issue I took with the original post (who knows how long ago :)), was that an able bodied man was ok with somebody else pushing his cart or carrying his bags while he walked with empty hands.

 

Like I said, call me old fashioned if you want.

 

You ever notice that all the "dads" in TV and movies in the last 20 years are portrayed as bumbling idiots?  Dad used to be a guy not to be messed with, or you would find out the hard way what sort of behaviors were acceptable.  Now we have safe spaces for people that can't handle hearing "no".

 

Society as we know it in this country is mere decades from collapse I bet.  Wont be anyone left to actually get anything done around here.  Oh sure, we will be able to talk about stuff, and design stuff on the computer, and sell stuff, and have meetings about how to get stuff done, but actually get out there do work?  Oh no, that's not for "me"

 

Any takers on that bet?

[A-Jay]

1 minute ago, NYWayfarer said:

I think it was an invisibility issue. It was like she didn’t even acknowledge my existence. 
 

Dang A-Jay it was like you were there. How did you know my wife won’t let me unload the eggs from the cart. I had the butterfingers ya know ?

Simply thinking about it from the cashier's perspective - 

Decent chance she's seen a wide array of customer checkout methods - including couples.

She probably weighed the outcome probabilities in her mind and assumed that her question was valid.

A-Jay

 

[NYWayfarer]

1 minute ago, A-Jay said:

Simply thinking about it from the cashier's perspective - 

Decent chance she's seen a wide array of customer checkout methods - including couples.

She probably weighed the outcome probabilities in her mind and assumed that her question was valid.

A-Jay

 

My theory is she had to ask the question. It’s part of their training in this particular establishment. They recite a whole speech they memorized about the rewards program and customer survey. That’s why I was only insulted for a quick second.

[A-Jay]

1 minute ago, NYWayfarer said:

My theory is she had to ask the question. It’s part of their training in this particular establishment. They recite a whole speech they memorized about the rewards program and customer survey. That’s why I was only insulted for a quick second.

Got it.

A-Jay

[NYWayfarer]

9 minutes ago, TheRodFather said:

Well, I would be just as amazed if it was a young man that did the carrying.  The issue I took with the original post (who knows how long ago :)), was that an able bodied man was ok with somebody else pushing his cart or carrying his bags while he walked with empty hands.

 

Like I said, call me old fashioned if you want.

 

You ever notice that all the "dads" in TV and movies in the last 20 years are portrayed as bumbling idiots?  Dad used to be a guy not to be messed with, or you would find out the hard way what sort of behaviors were acceptable.  Now we have safe spaces for people that can't handle hearing "no".

 

Society as we know it in this country is mere decades from collapse I bet.  Wont be anyone left to actually get anything done around here.  Oh sure, we will be able to talk about stuff, and design stuff on the computer, and sell stuff, and have meetings about how to get stuff done, but actually get out there do work?  Oh no, that's not for "me"

 

Any takers on that bet?

I would not take that bet. I hope society would get past gender stereotypes. In my household my wife changes the washers and assembles anything with instructions. I am a klutz but I make a good beast of burden, lifting and moving heavy stuff. I changed more diapers than her since she has a low tolerance to stinky stuff. I came from a household where my father never changed my diaper as a baby. Times change hopefully we can as well.

 

I remember a riddle from awhile back. It went like this, “father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad. The son is rushed to the hospital; just as he’s about to go under the knife, the surgeon says, “I can’t operate—that boy is my son!”

The answer is the surgeon is the son’s mother. The shock value was the surgeon is a woman. It was a shock back when I first heard it the 70’s its just stupid today. 
 

[TheRodFather]

1 hour ago, NYWayfarer said:

I would not take that bet. I hope society would get past gender stereotypes. In my household my wife changes the washers and assembles anything with instructions. I am a klutz but I make a good beast of burden, lifting and moving heavy stuff. I changed more diapers than her since she has a low tolerance to stinky stuff. I came from a household where my father never changed my diaper as a baby. Times change hopefully we can as well.

 

I remember a riddle from awhile back. It went like this, “father and son are in a horrible car crash that kills the dad. The son is rushed to the hospital; just as he’s about to go under the knife, the surgeon says, “I can’t operate—that boy is my son!”

The answer is the surgeon is the son’s mother. The shock value was the surgeon is a woman. It was a shock back when I first heard it the 70’s its just stupid today. 
 

Who said anything about gender stereotypes?  People, men or women can be and do whatever the heck they want, in my book.  Feminist don't need a man to carry their groceries, why does a man need somebody to carry his groceries, is the question I'm asking. 

 

It's not a gender thing, it's a get off your a$$ and pull your own weight thing.

 

But if you want to get into that, then OK.  Civilizations and humans have been around for many many thousands of years, men were providers, protectors, women the caregivers, etc, etc.  That doesn't mean women were subservient to men, in many ancient cultures the woman were much more highly regarded than women of today are, Sparta for instance.   Do you think Spartan women raised sissy hipsters in skinny jeans? No, they did not. They recognized that the men of the group were better suited to defend and provide, thus ensuring the survival of the group.

 

What makes us think that we are somehow so magnificent that reinventing the wheel of human nature and evolution is simply something that only we came up with in the last 20-40 years?  The world is different today, we don't have to kill or be killed you might reply.  I say the world is still a harsh place, evidenced by increasing suicide rates, ages that kids are staying with their parents, etc, etc.  Hardwired responses to distress, responses to crying babies, innate ability to nurture, or discipline, all things that are there for a reason.  Would you agree, that well rounded children are not the normal product of single parent homes (again, think percentages, ignore the exceptions).

 

Men and women have different physiological capabilities, and I speak in general terms, of course there are exceptions, as there are women graduating from seal training, and men changing diapers (myself included).  To deny the differences in our physiological capabilities would be just as foolish as entering the FLW with a pontoon boat.  Some things are better suited to certain tasks.

 

If I want to enter my pontoon in the tour, do all the 250hp glitter rockets have to mount aluminum tubes on their hull?

 

Here is a story about 1200 (that's right, one thousand, two hundred )women who were assaulted during a new years eve celebration by migrants.  What did the German men do to stop this from happening in the future you ask?   They dressed up as women to show solidarity........

 

Here is the link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany

 

Now over in Russia, a similar thing happened and the perpetrators got the beating of a lifetime.

 

The link:https://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/refugees-go-clubbing-in-russia-harass-girls-wake-up-in-hospital-the-next-morning/

 

Which group of perpetrators do you think will respect women more after the respective incidents?

 

We can respect women and celebrate their accomplishments without loosing our masculinity, is all I'm saying.

 

Ipso facto, I have never seen my wife so turned on since I calmly but firmly asked the guy who sat in her seat at the bar when we got up to greet some friends, to please move.

 

If you can't "like" this post because your wife is looking over your shoulder, it's ok.  (kidding, or am I?)

[Mjmj]

18 hours ago, Quarry Man said:

this comes off as extremely sexist, who cares what other people do as long as they aren't hurting you or anyone else.

I didn't read this as sexist at all. I read this as people in our society have become LAZY. I am not a sexist in any way (my wife is the bread winner in our marriage)  That being said if this gentleman was handicapped, then I think this is understandable, but I believe what TheRodFather was trying to convey is that people are becoming lazy. I have just had my rotator cuff repaired  and it is very hard for me, to watch my wife carry most of the groceries in  the house. Not because I'm a sexist,  but because I love my wife dearly and I feel like I'm not holding up my part in our relationship. Would I have let that young lady load my groceries,  probably not, because I'm stubborn,  but if she came over and asked to help, I would gladly accept some help

[J Francho]

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