schplurg Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 11:24 AM, NorthForNigthts said: Lure color, especially for sinking or deep diving baits. If lure colour really mattered as much as manufacturers claimed, they'd make almost all deep diving crankbaits black/blue, or white. That's just how the color spectrum works. Truth is, almost everything between orange and purple on the colour spectrum looks the same in 20+ feet. I'm experimenting, but I'm wondering if color matters for a popper, especially anywhere besides the bottom. I'm gonna make a few, some really weird, and see if it matters. I see fish miss them sometimes so I wonder if they see something they don't like at the last moment or are simply bad aim. As for crank baits, I've caught every fish out of a local lake with cranks, and I only throw them there because nothing else has worked. One of my go-to baits is a white fluke, but now I have another - cranks. Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted July 20, 2019 Super User Posted July 20, 2019 That fish cannot be understood. 1 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 21, 2019 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 21, 2019 That live bait fishing is easy and guaranteed to work. That baitcasting reels are better than spinning reels. That spinning reels are better than baitcasting reels. That leaders are necessary. That braid is the best line for most techniques. That tournaments harm fisheries. That bass aren't shallow during summer. I could keep going, but I'll stop right there. There's a lot of myths in bass fishing... 3 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted July 21, 2019 Super User Posted July 21, 2019 Coloring the last X amount of feet of braid black to "blend in" but we use black lures to stand out. 2 Quote
AlTheFisherman313 Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 Color selection! I have seen some ridiculous colors, I could get away with Black/blue and pumpkin softs. natural, white and black top waters! Spinners again natural white chartreuse or black blue. this is retaining more towards bass fishing. Pike will eat lures in colors fish don’t even exists in, but I think people way over think colors when it comes to bass. I mean if your throwing a deep diving crank light and dark depending on water clarity. Your 15 feet under water, the fish won’t be able to see the detail of your Rapala! 1 Quote
Super User Scott F Posted July 23, 2019 Super User Posted July 23, 2019 I know I’m in the minority on this one but I don’t think it’s right to hold a fish out an arms length away from your body, towards the camera, to make it appear bigger than it really is. If you want to highlight the fish, fine. Zoom in on it, stand closer to the camera, or crop the photo later. 3 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted July 23, 2019 Super User Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Scott F said: I know I’m in the minority on this one but I don’t think it’s right to hold a fish out an arms length away from your body, towards the camera, to make it appear bigger than it really is. If you want to highlight the fish, fine. Zoom in on it, stand closer to the camera, or crop the photo later. Well count me in the minority as well. I try to hold the fish as close to me as I can. Case in point is my profile pic...the bass is only a couple inches in front of my hat's brim. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 23, 2019 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 23, 2019 Frankly, I don't care whether or not somebody thinks I'm trying to make a fish look big. I know how big (or small) it was, and that's all that matters. Anyone who wants to make up stories and claim it's fake, photoshopped, or "gamed" in any way has far bigger personal issues than I'm willing to deal with. 4 Quote
AlTheFisherman313 Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Glenn said: Frankly, I don't care whether or not somebody thinks I'm trying to make a fish look big. I know how big (or small) it was, and that's all that matters. Anyone who wants to make up stories and claim it's fake, photoshopped, or "gamed" in any way has far bigger personal issues than I'm willing to deal with. If someone called you out Glenn, they are just having a major inferiority complex. i have learned a ton from your videos! In fact I could outright say you, Roland Martin and my uncle taught me 75% of what I know on bass fishing, the rest was trial and error. And believe me lots of errors have been made, but now I rarely get skunked and when I do, I am usually knowingly going out on “less favorable” days haha. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 23, 2019 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 23, 2019 Thanks man! I appreciate the kind words. I didn't mean to derail the topic here. It's just a pet peeve of mine when I see people squabbling over whether or not a pic is altered, or that the fish is too close/far from the camera, blah blah blah....all in an attempt to somehow discredit the person that caught the fish. It's just stupid how people fixate on that. Incredibly juvenile. Why not just congratulate them and move on like the rest of us? Is common decency and respect really that hard? /end rant Moving on... 3 1 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted July 23, 2019 Super User Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 6:13 PM, Paul Roberts said: That fish cannot be understood. Yes......but as a lifetime fence sitter, I also disagree when a fisherman (other than someone as studious as @Paul Roberts, of course) says he knows what a bass thinks (or sees... or smells.... or feels....or likes....or tastes...) 2 1 Quote
Super User Paul Roberts Posted July 23, 2019 Super User Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Choporoz said: Yes......but as a lifetime fence sitter, I also disagree when a fisherman (other than someone as studious as @Paul Roberts, of course) says he knows what a bass thinks (or sees... or smells.... or feels....or likes....or tastes...) I'm sitting on that fence with you, buddy. (Thanks for giving me a slight pass on that one. I will admit that I am at least peering over that fence. ) I'm certainly not qualified to assess what fish think (or sees... or smells.... or feels....or likes....or tastes...). But... I'm given it hell. My next documentary is on the development of behavior in LMB; Behavior being, how living things interact with their environment. If there's one place I'm headed, it's why bass strike lures, or -more often- why they don't. "Why" is the toughest question. Ask any parent of a 2yr old! I guess I just never could succumb to... "Why ask why". In the process of researching for this coming doc, I ended up conversing with experts in the field of comparative cognition. Really fun, and part of that conversation ended up orbiting around my using the word "think" (as in the common phrase, "How fish think..."). Each expert, except one, shied away from the word "think". It's just not known how that works in humans, much less animals. Since evolution is a continuum -that's agreed upon- the problem becomes, when and where does cognition leave off and "thinking" begin? Fascinating question and that's in the field of comparative cognition. I took the safest and, I feel, the most penetrating tack, sticking with the better-defined "cognition", and then, looking at what is most important to fish. I argue, that is what they "cogitate/think" about. Doc is slated to be released in the next week or two -finally! I haven't fished since April! I'm ready to relax and get some fishing in. 4 Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted July 23, 2019 Super User Posted July 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Scott F said: I know I’m in the minority on this one but I don’t think it’s right to hold a fish out an arms length away from your body, towards the camera, to make it appear bigger than it really is. If you want to highlight the fish, fine. Zoom in on it, stand closer to the camera, or crop the photo later. Besides...bass already shrink three "sizes" when you take pictures of them (or put them on a scale). Might as well compensate somehow. 1 Quote
Scuba Steve Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 I ALMOST FORGOT! “I only catch fish on crankbaits burning them across rocks on river bottoms.” Yeah, ok. 1) Crankbaits have never failed me in open water. They don’t NEED to be bashed off structure. 2) Any time anything of mine with a treble hook touches my local river bottom its gone. I don’t even TRY this tactic because I know it’ll end with me rage quitting. 2 Quote
schplurg Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 8:40 PM, Scott F said: I know I’m in the minority on this one but I don’t think it’s right to hold a fish out an arms length away from your body, towards the camera, to make it appear bigger than it really is. If you want to highlight the fish, fine. Zoom in on it, stand closer to the camera, or crop the photo later. Yep. My current avatar photo is me holding the fish next to me, not in front of me, and it's still big! (to me - 5.25). Quote
Steve Levitt Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 5:42 PM, JediAmoeba said: So this is a fun topic I have seen in a hockey forum - as long as people keep it civil. What is a popular opinion within the fishing industry you disagree with? For instance one thing I have always disagreed with is the fact manufacturers make 50 different colors of baits and people still want more... I think this is overkill and more marketing than anything else. If a bass was hot for your midnight blue craw with red flakes he would have eaten your midnight craw with green flakes. The industry has made us believe we need 50 colors in our tackle bags so we buy more. It's brilliant! So what are some things you see in the fishing community you believe are B.S.? Baits are made to catch fisherman more than fish. Quote
Super User Sam Posted August 7, 2019 Super User Posted August 7, 2019 All articles written by the pros in magazines and on the Internet hawk their sponsors gear even though the pros may not use them in tournaments. But that is what they have to do to keep sponsors so we have to put up with it. And if you carefully listen to the pros at the weigh ins, you may pick up that they did not actually use the products they hawk; they just mention them. Need a directive telling the pros to only hawk those products they actually used to do well in specific tournaments. 1 Quote
Efishin Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 8:05 PM, Glenn said: That live bait fishing is easy and guaranteed to work. That baitcasting reels are better than spinning reels. That spinning reels are better than baitcasting reels. That leaders are necessary. That braid is the best line for most techniques. That tournaments harm fisheries. That bass aren't shallow during summer. I could keep going, but I'll stop right there. There's a lot of myths in bass fishing... I agree with all of those statements. Everyone looks at me like I'm crazy with a spinning reel/rod haha. Correct, bass are definitely shallow even in the summer. Great job Glenn! I am curious as to your outlook on tournaments as your talk about it some. I participate in tournaments locally and will say unfortunately some fish do die due to being hooked in a vital spot, heat of summer in GA, poor fish management, etc. I'm not a biologist so i'm not sure whether it's healthy for the lake or not. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. Is it beneficial for the overall health of the lake? I am not at all knowledgeable on this topic and very curious as to y'alls thoughts. Thanks! Quote
BassNJake Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Efishin said: I agree with all of those statements. Everyone looks at me like I'm crazy with a spinning reel/rod haha. Correct, bass are definitely shallow even in the summer. Great job Glenn! I am curious as to your outlook on tournaments as your talk about it some. I participate in tournaments locally and will say unfortunately some fish do die due to being hooked in a vital spot, heat of summer in GA, poor fish management, etc. I'm not a biologist so i'm not sure whether it's healthy for the lake or not. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. Is it beneficial for the overall health of the lake? I am not at all knowledgeable on this topic and very curious as to y'alls thoughts. Thanks! Just read something about this yesterday https://www.bassmaster.com/news/daily-limit-don-t-sweat-decimal-dust Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted August 7, 2019 Super User Posted August 7, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 8:05 PM, Glenn said: That tournaments harm fisheries. That bass aren't shallow during summer. I could keep going, but I'll stop right there. There's a lot of myths in bass fishing... Glenn how do you reconcile this tournament's effect on a premier fishery? Quote
Bassun Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 A little late but joining in none the less: That you MUST use different rods for different lures. That 1000 different colors are necessary (not to say I don't own 999 lol but...) That you MUST use casting gear for bass fishing. That fishing with live bait is at all wrong or "less than" fishing with artificials. That high end gear helps catch a single fish. (More fish over time, yes by virtue of longevity perhaps - but as far as any individual fish.) That you cannot catch fish on your boat without the latest and greatest electronics and gadgets. That the lure matters. (Location matters. No fish, no bites. Find fish, they will hit a variety of lures.) That more than 1% of the posts on here are based on anything more than what any one of us happens to "think". That because angler "X" caught fish on whatever, that we should use that or that using that will automatically work for us. That 99% of the things pros "preach" matter to average anglers. (If you are good enough for the subtle nuances of fishing to truly matter, then you are better than 99% of the anglers out there.) 1 1 Quote
Super User Log Catcher Posted August 7, 2019 Super User Posted August 7, 2019 I don't believe all the pro videos I see. I think if sales are way down on a particular bait they get the pros to make videos telling you how good they are and hope they get lucky and actually catch a fish with it. Remember the Dancin Eel. You can't catch fish on a topwater in the middle of the day. Crankbaits have to hit something to catch fish. You must have red hooks to catch fish. The best soft plastic colors have some red in them. 1 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted August 7, 2019 Super User Posted August 7, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 11:21 PM, pondhopperNJ said: -Crankbaits work in the summer Crankbaits do work great at dusk or dawn in the summer, in the cooler parts of the country, but I wouldn't fish them mid day on a hot day. Quote
SeaCrow Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 That fishermen tell tales about the size of the fish that got away...wait..we might do that. Lol Quote
hawgenvy Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 That fluorocarbon has less stretch than nylon monofilament. (Please, readers, if you disagree with this one, show me the data!) Quote
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