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28 minutes ago, hawgenvy said:

That fluorocarbon has less stretch than nylon monofilament. 

 

(Please, readers, if you disagree with this one, show me the data!)

Was proven to me by the Berkeley research staff at a Bassmaster Classic using one of their stretching machines. I was very surprised at the results of the test.

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1. That weedguards don't reduce hookups.

2. That long casts are better.

3. That guitar strumming your line will get snags out.

4. That flipping your fish onto the deck or bank is harmless to the fish.

5. That Rick Clunn is better than Roland Martin.

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On 7/20/2019 at 8:05 PM, Glenn said:
  • That live bait fishing is easy and guaranteed to work.
  • That baitcasting reels are better than spinning reels.
  • That spinning reels are better than baitcasting reels.
  • That leaders are necessary.
  • That braid is the best line for most techniques.
  • That tournaments harm fisheries.
  • That bass aren't shallow during summer.

I could keep going, but I'll stop right there.  There's a lot of myths in bass fishing...

 

 

So Glenn, do you use leaders? A lot of people, myself included, don't think it matters, but we ain't taking no chances. LOL. I stopped using one for a jig because it's usually in heavy cover. Doesn't make sense to me to use 50# braid, then attach 15# leader to it and throw that leader into heavy cover.

 

As for bass being shallow in summer, I just caught my PB out of some grass that's maybe 2' deep. And there were some dead fish floating in that reservoir, I assume from depleted oxygen levels. Yet, there she was.

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20 hours ago, Sam said:

Was proven to me by the Berkeley research staff at a Bassmaster Classic using one of their stretching machines. I was very surprised at the results of the test.

Really? This is from the Berkeley website:  "Many anglers believe that fluorocarbon is a low-stretch line, and credit its sensitivity to this factor. But it actually stretches more than nylon mono. The difference is, it takes a greater force to get fluoro stretching in the first place." 

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17 hours ago, billmac said:

That Rick Clunn is better than Roland Martin.

That either one of these guys is better than Larry Nixon.

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4 hours ago, hawgenvy said:

Really? This is from the Berkeley website:  "Many anglers believe that fluorocarbon is a low-stretch line, and credit its sensitivity to this factor. But it actually stretches more than nylon mono. The difference is, it takes a greater force to get fluoro stretching in the first place." 

Right.

 

I was taught to use mono for treble hook baits which I do. Flouro and braid for everything else.

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On 8/9/2019 at 3:01 PM, hawgenvy said:

Really? This is from the Berkeley website:  "Many anglers believe that fluorocarbon is a low-stretch line, and credit its sensitivity to this factor. But it actually stretches more than nylon mono. The difference is, it takes a greater force to get fluoro stretching in the first place." 

Was the line wet or dry?  There's a difference.

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12 hours ago, J Francho said:

Was the line wet or dry?  There's a difference.

Well, of course if it makes a difference in stretchability, it would be more important to know how a line behaves wet (although some of the line might be dry during fishing). I really don't know, which is my point. There is a difference, in broad terms, between a claim and conclusive knowledge. Just because a claim is made and repeated over and over again, including by people whose knowledge we respect, does not mean the claim has any validity. People say over and over that fluorocarbon has less stretch than nylon, and we believe it, yet here is Berkely saying it has more. We need a little science to point us to the truth. Unfortunately, most the science is done in labs where products are developed and manufactured; and those labs, whatever the findings, are not going to publish anything. The manufacturers or distributors, or subsidiaries, or retailers, or whoever, are going to claim whatever they want. And we will buy it, and maybe spend a lot more than we should. And if we believe we are catching more fish because of it we will always spend more. I am no different because I have no more knowledge than anyone else. 

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There's a popular site that performed unbiased testing on several brands of mono and fluoro.  Mono stretches more than fluoro, when wet.  The difference between wet and dry was significant.  Fluoro wasn't as affected, which makes sense because mono is porous, fluoro is not.  I wish they did the tests using line conditioners, like KVD L&L  as well.

Posted
On 7/23/2019 at 10:39 PM, Scuba Steve said:

1) Crankbaits have never failed me in open water. They don’t NEED to be bashed off structure. 

100% Agreed.

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