Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 9, 2019 Super User Posted July 9, 2019 I occasionally use Mepps #5 (1/2 ounce) spinners, usually in deeper lakes that have thermocline. I learned quick not to use braid; spinners twist braid unmercifully, even with the best ball bearing swivels. Mono seemed much more tolerant. I had 12 lb. InvizX on one of my reels yesterday, and I used my spinners for about 4 hours, about 5-8 feet deep, both slow and moderate speed retrieve. Call me crazy, but the fluoro seems to be more resistant to line twist. It's as if it was "stiffer" axially. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I imagining things? jj 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 9, 2019 Super User Posted July 9, 2019 I noticed the same, which is why I use fluoro for spoons and inline spinners when I go brown/steelhead trout fishing in fall. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted July 9, 2019 Super User Posted July 9, 2019 Do you use a line conditioner with FC line? Line conditioner helps reduce friction as the it runs around the bail roller onto the spool and coming off the spool when casting. Tom Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 9, 2019 Author Super User Posted July 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, WRB said: Do you use a line conditioner with FC line? Line conditioner helps reduce friction as the it runs around the bail roller onto the spool and coming off the spool when casting. Tom No line roller; this is a baitcaster. jj 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 9, 2019 Super User Posted July 9, 2019 I doubt he was using a spinning rod with 12# fluoro. Edit, dang it, beat me! 1 Quote
Super User Scott F Posted July 9, 2019 Super User Posted July 9, 2019 Why are your spinners causing line twist at all? Only the blade is supposed to spin, not the entire lure. For me, spoons will often spin which is why I use ball bearing swivels with them. If your spinners aren’t running right, don’t blame the line. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted July 9, 2019 Super User Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: Call me crazy, but the fluoro seems to be more resistant to line twist. It's as if it was "stiffer" axially. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I imagining things? jj You got it...especially since nylon/mono absorbs water and “softens up” with use. Fluoro by and large doesn’t. That retention of stiffness is also why some have issues casting with it, so the same property can be either a benefit or a hindrance depending on the individual. In your case, it’s more of a benefit from the sound of it. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted July 9, 2019 Super User Posted July 9, 2019 3 hours ago, jimmyjoe said: I occasionally use Mepps #5 (1/2 ounce) spinners, usually in deeper lakes that have thermocline. I learned quick not to use braid; spinners twist braid unmercifully, even with the best ball bearing swivels. Mono seemed much more tolerant. I had 12 lb. InvizX on one of my reels yesterday, and I used my spinners for about 4 hours, about 5-8 feet deep, both slow and moderate speed retrieve. Call me crazy, but the fluoro seems to be more resistant to line twist. It's as if it was "stiffer" axially. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I imagining things? jj Fluoro will twist less than mono because it is stiifer. Braid will twist quite a bit, but is less prone to issues (until it's not). I fish inlines quite a bit, and almost always use a sampo bb swivel, and it takes care of twist. I agree that a spinner shouldn't spin while being retrieved properly, but they often do, and they also spin while casting and while retrieving quickly for another cast. 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 9, 2019 Author Super User Posted July 9, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 10:37 AM, Scott F said: Why are your spinners causing line twist at all? Only the blade is supposed to spin, not the entire lure. For me, spoons will often spin which is why I use ball bearing swivels with them. If your spinners aren’t running right, don’t blame the line. Try this the next time you use a 1/2 ounce spinner: take one of these weights and put it in the swivel snap ring THAT YOU TIE YOUR LURE TO. Not the other side. If the lure is working correctly, you'll not feel that weight "thumping" as it rotates with your line. In reality, you'll feel a "thump" as the weight rotates up and over, then falls quickly on the other side. Use only 1/16th size; you're not trying to stop the line rotation (yet), you're just ascertaining that it really is there. As for visuals, a swimming pool can be your best friend. ? jj https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/catpage-SWAGGR.html?from=basres Quote
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