carlosjr Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Hey guys, I am looking at a few rods for smallies this summer. I live in the PNW and most of the smallmouth here are between 1-4lbs. nothing crazy. Just curious what rods you guys look for for these little guys? debating going back and forth between ML and M action. In my mind I have a daiwa procyon ML in my mind or a shimano Clarus ML for tubes grubs and other soft plastics up to 1/2oz max. mostly 1/4-3/8oz Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted July 2, 2019 Super User Posted July 2, 2019 I use a baitcaster when throwing 5 inch Caffeine Shads on an Owner Twistlock Light 3/32 hook for smallies... deadly combo for the bronzebacks. I use a Daiwa Tatula Elite Ehrler M-MH XF and Tat SV reel. Great combo.. Quote
LadiMopar Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 I use Daiwa Elite Series Signature rods (cranking and light top water up to 1/2 oz.lures) paired with Tatula baitcasting reels (CT type R, on the cranking; SV for top water) I have 6 Tatula reels, the two mentioned, as well as a regular CT, 200H, 100H and 100HS. I really love the TWS design. Far fewer back lashes and more evenly distributed line on the spool. I run mostly 40# braid, but do have one set up with Ande Tournament Green 12# mono. The 13# drag system is great too for those bass that want to give you a run for your money. If you don't want to buy a technique specific rod the Signature Elite Series also has a mighty nice "universal" use rod. I was just recently looking at the Tatula line of rods and they appear to be really well made for the price around $120, slightly higher for the glass cranking rods @ $150, and the Elite are $179. Been brand loyal for about 40 years, so I freely admit my bias, but in all honesty I sold tackle for many years; could have had any brand I wanted but Daiwa has been consistently good. Not just the high end gear, but across the board, and I've owned a lot of their lower/mid range gear. Still using two of my oldest reels (25-30 years) and with the exception of a little cosmetic wear and tear they still more than get the job done. Hope this helps a little, and best of luck in your quest. 2 Quote
haggard Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Not sure if the PNW smallies are any different from the ones we have here in southern Maine but they're my favorite species and I don't think you could go wrong with either ML or M power. Either one will catch smallies. I think it comes down to what lures you're throwing. If you prefer 1/4 oz and up, the M power baitcaster or spinning rod should do great. If you prefer lighter lures/techniques the ML spinning might be more appropriate. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 3, 2019 Super User Posted July 3, 2019 I like the M for tubes & drop shot work and the ML for hair jigs.~ A-Jay 2 Quote
waymont Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Check out the Daiwa Tatula Bass rod series. The 6'6" and 6'8" medium are excellent all around rods. Perfect for 1/4-3/8oz baits. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 3, 2019 Super User Posted July 3, 2019 Pretty sure Carlos is asking about spinning rods. I've not used a Procyon, but given their lure range and the weights that he uses, I'd give the ML a shot. Lure range is 1/4-3/4 oz. Quote
LadiMopar Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 18 hours ago, new2BC4bass said: Pretty sure Carlos is asking about spinning rods. I've not used a Procyon, but given their lure range and the weights that he uses, I'd give the ML a shot. Lure range is 1/4-3/4 oz. The Procyon, as all other rod series mentioned come in both a spinning or casting model. I took another look at the OP and didn't see rod type specified, but imho the spinning rigs tend to be a little softer over all, especially the tips. Either will get the job done, but with spinning I'd probably stick to M over ML. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 4, 2019 Super User Posted July 4, 2019 5 hours ago, LadiMopar said: The Procyon, as all other rod series mentioned come in both a spinning or casting model. I took another look at the OP and didn't see rod type specified, but imho the spinning rigs tend to be a little softer over all, especially the tips. Either will get the job done, but with spinning I'd probably stick to M over ML. I am aware of that. A quick search turned up no ML Procyon or Clarus casting rods. Ergo the OP must be asking about spinning rods. If the OP goes for a Clarus, then I'd definitely opt for a Medium, but if he opts for a Procyon I'd rather have a ML rated 1/4-3/4 oz. than a M rated 1/4-1 oz....given the OP's criteria of 1/2 oz. max. Assuming the weights he listed are total weights. If...as you say...a spinning rod often has a softer tip, then the OP may be able to use lighter than the 1/4 oz. Especially on the ML version. I primarily use casting rods. A 1/4-3/4 oz. range is MH to me. Most of my Mediums top out at 5/8 oz. There are exceptions....naturally. Quote
carlosjr Posted July 6, 2019 Author Posted July 6, 2019 hey guys, yes I am talking about spinning gear. I have a stradic fk 3000 on its way that I scored for free and am just looking to pair it up with a decent rod without breaking the bank. I really just plan on throwing tubes with it. I dont have much access to bass rods around here like most folks do. In the PNW we have a lot of options for salmon and steelhead rods but for bass its all largemouth rods which for me coming from the steelhead world all feel like dead pool cues. I just need something with a light enough tip to load the rod, enough give to not throw hooks and a decent amount of backbone to handle 4lb smallies in a little current. Quote
deadadrift89 Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 I have several medium and medium/light rods I use for smallmouth. My ML's are for dropshot and ned rigs and I use my M's for tubes, texas rigged soft plastics, small swimbaits and weightless worms. If I had to choose only one do all it would be a medium/fast and especially for tubes Quote
Mikeltee Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 I catch 5# all the time on my tatula elite finesse. It has ags guides and is super sensitive for the price. If the biggest you will be hauling in is a 4# you may as well feel like its got a chance and use a finesse rod. Catching dinks all day on a flippin stick will get old quick. Quote
zell_pop1 Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 For a 3000 size reel I'd go MH spinning. Either the Clarus or even the Slx rod which at MH are rated 8-15lb test line 1/4 to 3/4oz lures. Quote
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